Foxtrot94
Elite Hunter
So? She was still killed in her demon form and in Limbo.
The difference between DMC's humans and DmC's humans
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So? She was still killed in her demon form and in Limbo.
DragonMaster2010
Don't Let the Fall of America be Your Fall
Poison wasn't a hunter with magic skin.
That's not his astral form, that's his literal human form. Dante shot through the screen and killed him.
She was killed in Limbo, she didn't have a human form. Thus why Kat said Poison could only be reached in Limbo.
Chancey289
Fake Geek Girl.
Are you serious? Because a young girl is gonna try anything on heavily armed police officers twice her size with fully loaded assault rifles.
Kat's not suicidal. And we know her powers in witchcraft don't come with lightning spells or something she can shoot out of her hands.
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She did however risk getting caught multiple times to help Dante incapacitate guards.
Innsmouth
Sleeping DMC Fan
uhhh…so hunter was actually killed in Limbo as well xD And if we go by that logic, where is shot wounds on bob? we saw how he holds hand near his heart than he drops on floor and his suit is completely intact. It saw like heart attack not like getting shot in human world.
umm so was Hunter and Bob as well.
Foxtrot94
Elite Hunter
Yeah it's the point I'm making. That demons can only be killed in their demon form and killing their human vessels isn't enough. Aside from Mundus, where killing his human form = killing the demon itself cause the Hell Gate was shut. I assume it works that way for the others too.
DragonMaster2010
Don't Let the Fall of America be Your Fall
Where are the wounds on Dante in DMC3 when he's stabbed by a bunch of scythes? Where's Nero's wound when he's stabbed by Agnus in DMC4? It's a video game, dude.
The Hunter and poison were both killed in Limbo, while Barbas was killed in the human world through Limbo. The demon inside the meat suit along with that meat suit is killed.
Like with Supernatural.
Innsmouth
Sleeping DMC Fan
But isn't DmC suppose to be "realistic" and "believable". Besides we clearly saw hole in liliths head after being shot. And since when Dante's bullets can traverse between Limbo and human world? You know, since it was claimed Mundus is only one who has bodies in all worlds. So Uhh since Dante can shoot through dimensions without Kat's help, why she was needed?
Foxtrot94
Elite Hunter
Guys, guys. When it comes to visible wounds on characters models and stuff like that, that's not something to take at face value. Cause it's not a matter of story or canon or anything like that. It's a technical matter, it's a matter of textures and polygons etc., that to recreate that effect, often have to be duplicated and the copy modified, and it's up to the developers to decide to do that or not.
Arguing over the fact that a wound or blood is visible or not is ultimately pointless when talking about lore details.
Arguing over the fact that a wound or blood is visible or not is ultimately pointless when talking about lore details.
DragonMaster2010
Don't Let the Fall of America be Your Fall
Realistic being demon ruled worlds and giant demons going around? Yeah, sooo realistic. It's a video game c'mon now.
Gee if only there was someone who could go between Limbo AND the real world--oh wait.
I'll just quote a line Dante used when Kat said she could get him out; "I've been down here before, I know how to get out; you fight whatever ****-sucking demon drags you in here."
He fought Barbas enough to make him loose his own control over his own Limbofied world and allowing Dante to shoot him in the chest. Simple
Lain
Earthbound Immortal
I believe the terms people are looking for are "Realism" and "Suspension of Disbelief". Both of which are different from being realistic and believable.
Innsmouth
Sleeping DMC Fan
realistic being king of demon being fat thug who rules world through debt.
So basically Kat is even more useless that she ever been. Wow. And than I thought she had at least some usefulness, and Dante can just go back and forth even without her.
Foxtrot94
Elite Hunter
Yeah I remember that too although I think it was just speculation and screwing around with ideas, that kinda things.
Gel
When the going gets tough, the tough get going
No, I guess that appears in her Project x zone profile, something like she is one of the strongest human being living or something like that. I never saw it said in DMC's profiles or official documentation until now.
V's patron
be loyal to what matters
@Foxtrot94
I guess an in-story reason for why Kat doesn't really use her powers in a offensive way is because she was never taught how. Vergil willfully kept her in the dark about the combat capabilities since it would give her more independence rather than having her rely on him.
I guess an in-story reason for why Kat doesn't really use her powers in a offensive way is because she was never taught how. Vergil willfully kept her in the dark about the combat capabilities since it would give her more independence rather than having her rely on him.
Foxtrot94
Elite Hunter
Was that ever stated? Cause the game says the opposite, namely that Vergil did teach her how to deal with demons.
V's patron
be loyal to what matters
not exactly, just fan interpretation
it still could be true as even thought he did teach her, he just ignored/obscured a few things.
DragonMaster2010
Don't Let the Fall of America be Your Fall
So you understand then.
Dante could do it by himself, but its faster to have Kat get her out. Why are you trying to see the negative in this?
V's patron
be loyal to what matters
Well I think the reason why humans cant really fight against demon in DmC is more to give Dante more incentive to protect humanity and thats something they can play around with in a sequel or other stories.
you could see him trying to teach people how to fight or maybe the fall of limbo has an aftereffect etc.
you could see him trying to teach people how to fight or maybe the fall of limbo has an aftereffect etc.
Innsmouth
Sleeping DMC Fan
I always understood it. Doesn't mean I think that smart or good idea.
Because thats pretty much means Kat is completely unimportant and her only role being damsel and distress.