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Taramafor
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If i make a topic on steam about mod abuse/online dangers are you on board?
Steam's got more progress. Lewis (one of the steam mods) was the only one to stop and think. If they ignore "danger and death" (which they did) then cops could get involved. Lewis is the one going "feedback". Pay attention and cops **** off.
Lewis made a smart call. Because he's linked me to suggestions/feedback on steam I can say "This is a mods idea". It's a golden ticket here. To stress online dangers.
Just need everyone to have an opinion in the next topic I make on steam. Since mods here can invite unpopuler opinions that might help with that topic on steam. Everyone has an opinion, right?
The more people on board the better. I grew up knowing a lot of people being abused. Much of it can happen online. This isn't something I just ignore.
Steam's got more progress. Lewis (one of the steam mods) was the only one to stop and think. If they ignore "danger and death" (which they did) then cops could get involved. Lewis is the one going "feedback". Pay attention and cops **** off.
Lewis made a smart call. Because he's linked me to suggestions/feedback on steam I can say "This is a mods idea". It's a golden ticket here. To stress online dangers.
Just need everyone to have an opinion in the next topic I make on steam. Since mods here can invite unpopuler opinions that might help with that topic on steam. Everyone has an opinion, right?
The more people on board the better. I grew up knowing a lot of people being abused. Much of it can happen online. This isn't something I just ignore.
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Taramafor
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Silence people less. Here's why. :: Steam Community
There's the steam link.
I am controlling steam mods right now. Pounced.org was taken down for a reason. Silk Road too. It's not that there was danger. It's that danger was IGNORED.
What did steam mods ignore? Mod abuse. I made a topic about it before. It was deleted of course. Proved my point. They gave me evidence. Now I'm working WITH the problem. Now they have to cooperate with me, even if they give "robot responses". I know they're paying attention at this point. Properly this time.
They're backing off a bit. I made it clear I have a brain. They're taking note of it. It's something of a silent agreement. They don't give me more flak and I don't play the cop card. They know I control them at this point. They ignored "danger and death" in tickets. I have the tickets in my e-mail. Would be so easy to abuse that. But what would that prove? I have a better idea.
I'm going to need a hand though.
I get through to discord mods. So I know their tactics. "Gawking from afar" doesn't mean you know more though. It just means you don't ask.
See the name of this topic. Exactly the right idea.
People will only see the bigger picture if more people using logic and brains join in. In regards to "public conversations" about online abuse. People get biased when it comes to one person. I need more support here. Keep in mind mods/admins confirmed sanity and lives is in danger online when concerns are ignored.
If it was you in that situation then you'd do one of two things.
1: Speak up/fight back. 2: Suffer in silence.
People often go with 2. I always go with 1.
People often DEFEND 2. I will always fight against that. "wallowing in silence" only works if someone is being a "supportive" presence. Not a **** listener. Can people please understand the difference?
People will fear me. Hate me. Let 'em. I'm not stopping. I'm not giving up. So why would you?
People want you to stop. They want you to give up. They'll make snarky comments about showing you a door. It's because they's JEALOUS of you. People hate you because they hate their own inability. Just remember, if people try to stop you then it's because you have something they want. They just might not understand what it is yet. Use it to your advantage. Example: Steam mods gave me the ammo with their tickets. Of how danger was ignored. They gave in to fear. I. Have. Ammo. They gave it to me. I'm locked and loaded now.
See what I mean? You can do that too. They're just lucky I'd rather fight my own battles. And if I lead by that example they'll start to pick up on it at some point. That's the whole point. "Fight back". But do it in my face. Got a problem? Bring it to my face. Bring it on. Just do it to my face.
You can see a conversation I had with an ex mod in the link. Even mods agree with me at that point. They'd caution against blind agreements.
I've stared down the barrel of guns inside my own home. That is less concerning. I AM the danger. I love danger. I enjoy it. So if I say "danger" then how much danger do you think there is?
Ahem. Danger.
If people just take that topic a little more seriously (it's slowly happening) then it can have an impact. The focus is on "pay attention". Not "Punish stupid mods with more rules". I could go to the cops. I choose not too right now. Because blindly following rules is not what cops are trained for. Mods pretend they're cops. They're ****ing not.
I'm slowly gaining ground. But I need more support.
1: When do mods ask?
This topic is a good example of that. Feedback is "two way communication".
That's the problem isn't it? That people don't ask. But who asks?
2: When do mods HOLD a conversation?
Things go better when they do. This is a complication with steam mods. How are concerns supposed to be addressed if the mods can't even hold a conversation?
If even just one could hold a conversation in chat then I could get through to them. But they'd better be willing to hold the hardest of talks. Day to day works best. Someone that can "be there".
Think of it like this. If you jump ahead then you repeat mistakes. Slow down and you learn more. Right now steam mods aren't stupid enough to silence me in a public topic. But I need more people on board when mistakes happen because of people blindly following rules. If steam mods aren't trying to silence me, if people ask questions in the topic, then I see it as progress. I need more support to get the ball rolling properly though.
It can quite literary save lives. Plus it might get people to realize that games can mean more again. Arguments are actually important. Otherwise people don't connect and bond properly.
Right now steam mods are doing "robot responses". But they are watching. I think they want to see something too. Some sign that people pay attention. Both mods and users are wondering if there's a point in trying. There is one. I can't just tell you what that point is though. But effort does get results. Otherwise nothing gets done.
Now, are people going to help me with this? If not then I'll have to keep talking about it.
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ef9dante_oSsshea
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Don't want to jinx it, but i think maybe the issue is resolved as everything is working fine again now @Steve @berto @Meg
@Dark Drakan
Not sure what you did, but thank you.
@Dark Drakan
Not sure what you did, but thank you.
Taramafor
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Steam locked tickets. Found out they only give pre-determined messages in tickets to try and not offend people.
People trade comfort for honesty.
Going to stay focused on F-chat. The mods on F-chat ignore concerns and try to avoid communication, but at least they have human beings behind the keyboards.
Here's the topic about it. https://devilmaycry.org/threads/help.25730/
Question: Why does no one help?
Bonus question: Are the mods just not on the site much, or just not saying anything when they see? I can't afford to give anyone the benefit of the doubt right now.
If mods on other sites repeatedly ignored, danger, sanity and death when good intentions gets people killed from ignorance then you might be jaded too. I KNOW the F-chat mods noticed. They're just in denial and need a shove. From other people. I can't do this on my own.
People trade comfort for honesty.
Going to stay focused on F-chat. The mods on F-chat ignore concerns and try to avoid communication, but at least they have human beings behind the keyboards.
Here's the topic about it. https://devilmaycry.org/threads/help.25730/
Question: Why does no one help?
Bonus question: Are the mods just not on the site much, or just not saying anything when they see? I can't afford to give anyone the benefit of the doubt right now.
If mods on other sites repeatedly ignored, danger, sanity and death when good intentions gets people killed from ignorance then you might be jaded too. I KNOW the F-chat mods noticed. They're just in denial and need a shove. From other people. I can't do this on my own.
ef9dante_oSsshea
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Is the ability to gift premium memberships still available or is it gone?
Taramafor
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Why are people ignoring this?
Why is no one helping me whe danger, abuse and death is ignored?
Mods on this site: If you really are as understanding as you have claimed to be in the past, then can I get some support with this? F-chat mods ignore concerns to that extent.
I do know the danger. I have every reason to beleive peoples sanity and lives are in danger from good intentions and ignoance.
I need to speak with the F-chat mods. Can you help me do that? I'm trying not to phone the cops here.
Meg
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I messaged the rest of the staff regarding your concerns. Since we’re not on the forums very often, it’s going to take some time before they see this and for us to figure out what we should do. Please take it easy while we hash this out.