Why does Ninja Theory get all the bullsh*t?

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I find it a bit odd that Nero gets criticized so strongly about his emotional demeanor, yet people say DMC3 Dante is too emotionless. Make him a lot more emotional than in DMC3, and you end up with Nero.
its not that hard to figure out.. no one like whiny teenagers ! whiny,arrogant,smug teens are not cool they're just obnoxious little jerks whom i just want to punch in the face because they remind me of high school bullies not Clint eastwood or tom cruise.. and i want more baddesery not teenager drama.

That's one of the reasons why i can't get into this generation's anime.. too much teenager pandering.

>But you can't seriously disregard everything he says and feels based on his behavior in some parts of the game
I clearly stated that he NEVER gives a crap about anything that happens around him except the very very end part of the game where vergil dies and that was like an emotion for a micro-second.. i don't buy that.
>he can be serious, and he shows emotion - just not that often
He doesn't.. he's just arrogant against vergil most of the time that's the only emotion he has is arrogance&Cynicism in DmC he actually reacts to vergil like a human being(a very trashy one) but yes more like an actual person.
>but that's the cleverest thing he said
He doesn't need to be clever.. he doesn't need to crack one liners every now and then that would make him look like pretentious doofus (DMC 4 dante) he just need to be a genuine badass which he was.
>He's definitely not mentally disconnected
I didn't mean to say that he's unaware of the situation i mean to say that he simply doesn't give a.. CRAP about anything he acts like my co-worker who is forced to spend a day with me but doesn't like it so he just fu*ks around my house.
>What you think should happen is not necessarily what will happen or should
Actually yes.. if prequels screw up the characters then its a continuity error that's logic you can't refute logic.
>if it doesn't include Dante changing that's too bad for you
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>His origins in the sense of what he's done and where he even physically came from, not how he became the Dante in DMC1.
Again i can't fail to notice the high contradiction here everything he does in DMC 3 sets up the sails for DMC 1 so the game is obliged to show us how he became what he was in DMC 1.

Its like saying "I have degree&a job!" that's not an origin story ! i have studied 12 years in school and had various experiences which has shaped me into the person i am now one magical event didn't change my personality that's just a bullsh!t excuse for bad writing.

>I'd prefer it if you didn't call me names
Internet cliche:104 taking offense when there clearly is no offense.

>Fine, but why would we have to see him change in DMC3? It's just not necessary
I'm clearly facepalming as you're completely destroying logic.

Its like saying making an adam west styled prequel to dark knight trilogy is legit because "you don't care"
>Dante doesn't need to go through changes in DMC3 to become the Dante in DMC1. If you feel he does, alright. I just don't agree
Character continuity says HELLO !.
.You say DMC 3 is cynical and arrogant and too full of himself which is ironic since DmC Dante is trying to act like DMC 3 Dante.
how is that ironic ?? that would imply that i mentioned liking DmC dante which i didn't i don't like his "**** you" attitude one bit and he looks like a trailer trash(oh wait he IS A TRAILER TRASH) now you're happy ?
Because if you think that's the personality DMC 3 Dante is what you think, why would NT base it off of him? Why not DMC 1 Dante?
because you know ? its just my opinion that inuyasha dante sucks majority of the fanbase mostly likes DMC 3/4's dante,heck many people even think that "Original" dante is supposed to be an immature clown like DMC 4 dante.
It doesn't seem to me that DMC3 Dante has no character development at all, nor that he starts acting like DMC1 Dante so suddenly at the end.
long story short No he doesn't you're just seeing things that clearly aren't there.

>He stops acting like everything is just a joke to him.

YEAAH that's why he was admiring his reflecting on his sword when arkham just mutated into a hideous beast ? that's a legit emotional response i guess ? he also acts callously when he just caught a women falling from the sky ?? maybe she wouldn't have shot him he didn't act like an ass in a life threatening situation.
 
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its not that hard to figure out.. no one like whiny teenagers ! whiny,arrogant,smug teens are not cool they're just obnoxious little jerks whom i just want to punch in the face because they remind me of high school bullies not Clint eastwood or tom cruise.. and i want more baddesery not teenager drama.

And nobody likes whiny adults like Dante in DMC1 when he starts dramatically talking about his troubles. Nero has legitimate things to say. So does Dante in DMC1 and DMC3. See my point?

>But you can't seriously disregard everything he says and feels based on his behavior in some parts of the game
I clearly stated that he NEVER gives a crap about anything that happens around him except the very very end part of the game where vergil dies and that was like an emotion for a micro-second.. i don't buy that.

Yes, my response was a response to that statement. Dante shows emotion in DMC3. If you choose to ignore that and ignore my examples, be my guest, but this debate is over if you do. Debates are about listening to standpoints based on facts and examples. Factual reasoning.

>he can be serious, and he shows emotion - just not that often
He doesn't.. he's just arrogant against vergil most of the time that's the only emotion he has arrogance&Cynicism in DmC he actually reacts to vergil like a human being(a very trashy one) but yes more like an actual person.

Sometimes characters are characters, not like actual people. Which 'actual people' do you see riding a demon with their sword while yelling ''yahoo'', or jumping off of a tower into a flying whale? These are characters. Don't understand that, then I can never explain this to your satisfaction.

>but that's the cleverest thing he saidHe doesn't need to be clever.. he doesn't need to crack one liners every now and then that would make him look like pretentious doofus (DMC 4 dante) he just need to be a genuine badass which he was.

You just said he was sharp in DMC1, now you say he wasn't, and doesn't need to be? My point was that Dante is sharp in DMC3 too, not just in DMC1, like you argued.

>He's definitely not mentally disconnected
I didn't mean to say that he's unaware of the situation i mean to say that he simply doesn't give a.. CRAP about anything he acts like my co-worker who is forced to spend a day with me but doesn't like it so he just fu*ks around my house.

Sure, that's part of the game's theme, isn't it? He's got a sword called Rebellion, for God's sake. So... you don't like the change in tone between DMC3 and DMC1? Fair enough, but saying DMC3 is somehow wrong for being different is an odd standpoint. Especially since it doesn't take anything away from DMC1, it just adds stuff.

>What you think should happen is not necessarily what will happen or should
Actually yes.. if prequels screw up the characters then its a continuity error that's logic you can't refute logic.

I don't know why you think DMC3 screwed up Dante. It seemed fairly consistent with DMC1 (though not tremendously).
And the original argument was that DMC3's Dante somehow lacks a dimension Dante had in DMC1, right? I just told you that's not necessarily true, and gave you examples in my last post (or second to last, which is it now?) You decided to ignore those examples and only quote a few lines I wrote.


>His origins in the sense of what he's done and where he even physically came from, not how he became the Dante in DMC1.

Again i can't fail to notice the high contradiction here everything he does in DMC 3 sets up the sails for DMC 1 so the game is obliged to show us how he became what he was in DMC 1.

His killing of Arkham set into motion what happens in DMC1? He lets Vergil go, and that somehow affects DMC1, while Vergil had already been enslaved since he was eight in that game? DMC3 shows the relationship between Dante and Vergil, and where Dante physically came from, and some of his values. It's not trying to be the intro to DMC1.

Its like saying "I have degree&a job!" that's not an origin story ! i have studied 12 years in school and had various experiences which has shaped me into the person i am now one magical event didn't change my personality that's just a bullsh!t excuse for bad writing.

DMC3 does not try to create an origin story, I'd say. Sure, it gives us more information about the character Dante is and where he even came from, but it's not meant to show the reasons behind why he is who he is in DMC1. It just tells us what happened before DMC1 and what the heck a Dante is (even though that's not really canon, considering Vergil had already been gone for years).
The developers did not want to explain why Dante is the way he is in DMC1, so they didn't. You can pretend DMC3 is a prequel that tries to answer all our questions, but it just doesn't. End of story.

>I'd prefer it if you didn't call me names
Internet cliche:104 taking offense when there clearly is no offense.

Sarcastically calling me a genius? Of course I take offense to that. Didn't mean to offend me, then you shouldn't have said it.

>Fine, but why would we have to see him change in DMC3? It's just not necessary

I'm clearly facepalming as you're completely destroying logic.
Its like saying making an adam west styled prequel to dark knight trilogy is legit because "you don't care"

I don't know that much about the different installments of Batman, but I know enough about it to know that that was a terrible analogy. DMC1 vs DMC3 is not much like that. Batman: realistic vs cartoon/cartoon-like movie, DMC1 and DMC3: horror anime style vs shounen anime style (if I'm using shounen correctly here). Almost polar opposites vs anime/anime. Somebody else will have to argue with you about the rest, since I don't know that much about it. I don't care much about Dante not going through much change in DMC3 to become DMC1 Dante. Partly because DMC3 doesn't pretend to be anything other than itself. We can't all have the same opinion.
 
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So much butthurt in this thread. It's self-delusional as **** to not see a clear character development in DMC3, stay free.


I think a lot of people don't pay much mind to subtle things. DMC3 could actually be fairly subtle, or sort of understating, I should say. And that's exactly the power of it; once those emotions seep through, they're all the stronger. If Dante keeps taunting every demon, making fun of them all the time and showing himself being arrogant and cocky, then suddenly reverts to a serious guy who eventually calls his agency 'Devil May Cry' in response to what Lady said, saying his soul wants to stop Vergil, and crying, well, that's a very powerful literary tool. And it shows that Dante cares more than he would like to admit. That he has more emotion than he likes to admit.

Maybe it's because of education getting worse, maybe it's because of games getting blunter and blunter every time I pick one up, I don't know. Everything needs to be spelled out nowadays (sorry if that sounds overly pessimistic or arrogant).
 
long story short No he doesn't you're just seeing things that clearly aren't there.

>He stops acting like everything is just a joke to him.

YEAAH that's why he was admiring his reflecting on his sword when arkham just mutated into a hideous beast ? that's a legit emotional response i guess ? he also acts callously when he just caught a women falling from the sky ?? maybe she wouldn't have shot him he didn't act like an ass in a life threatening situation.
First, Dante catches Lady quite early in the game. Later, he acts quite differently with her.
Secondly, as I said, the simple fact he is making a joke with the sword should not cancel the fact that he is there no more because climbing Temen Ni Gru was fun, but because he understands he has to take responsibility for what his father and brother have done. He explicitly says this to Lady, explaining that her words made him reflect about it. So, if you want to pinpoint a moment in which he makes a drastic change, you should point that moment in the library, at least, and not the ending.
Another example: in the last showdown with Vergil he says "I have to stop you, even if that means killing you". The tone is completely serious, he's not joking anymore. Yes, he is still ironic, because this is a trait that stays, but that irony is kinda different from the careless jesting he does at the beginning. One doesn't need to be serious ALL the time to show a change in his motivations: the TRUE change Dante undergoes in DMC3 is in fact not one of outward attitude (he still retains his smartass attitude), but a change from someone who simply wants to have fun to someone who actually gives a damn about his responsibilities.
I find the difference quite evident, and I'm positively sure I'm not the only one around here.
You can say that the change is too quick, maybe poorly motivated, but the change IS there, in his lines and in his tone and there's a reason to it that isn't simply bad writing.
 
I think a lot of people don't pay much mind to subtle things. DMC3 could actually be fairly subtle, or sort of understating, I should say. And that's exactly the power of it; once those emotions seep through, they're all the stronger. Maybe it's because of education getting worse, maybe it's because of games getting blunter and blunter every time I pick one up, I don't know. Everything needs to be spelled out nowadays (sorry if that sounds overly pessimistic or arrogant).

I agree with you that there's some subtle hints in DMC3 as way of storytelling itself. But really, this is just evident. Dante clearly states in a serious manner that he was giving 0 ****s about all that was happening until he started to interact with Lady, and after their "battle" in the end of the game he states that this is his family matter too and that's his duty to stop Vergil and Arkham; because all that started with his father sealing the Temen-Ni-Gru. Someone who "don't understand" that can only be faking what they really think or really never played the game.
 
I agree with you that there's some subtle hints in DMC3 as way of storytelling itself. But really, this is just evident. Dante clearly states in a serious manner that he was giving 0 ***** about all that was happening until he started to interact with Lady, and after their "battle" in the end of the game he states that this is his family matter too and that's his duty to stop Vergil and Arkham; because all that started with his father sealing the Temen-Ni-Gru. Someone who "don't understand" that can only be faking what they really think or really never played the game.
Exactly. The hints are there, though they may seem subtle and need some time to be figured out. To say that Dante simply and without motivation changes from a bidimensional smartass teenager to a bidimansional serious guy means that no insight is used in scrapping behind the surface of Dante's jokes and taunts.
 
Dante had no character development in DMC 3?

Dante: This whole business started with my father sealing the entrance
between the two worlds. And now, my brother is trying to break
that spell and turn everything into demonville. This is my family
matter.

Quite frankly, at first, I didn't give a damn. But because of you,
I know what's important now. I know what I need to do.

/PointOver
 
Dante had no character development in DMC 3?

Dante: This whole business started with my father sealing the entrance
between the two worlds. And now, my brother is trying to break
that spell and turn everything into demonville. This is my family
matter.

Quite frankly, at first, I didn't give a damn. But because of you,
I know what's important now. I know what I need to do.

/PointOver

That is the only old Dante incarnation having some actual character development, which went from that - "I don't give a f*ck" to "Now I know what's worth fighting for". Loopy pointed out before that him and NT Dante are just two sides of the same coin because of that.
 
180 degree motivational changes to not equal character development.
Vergil fight 1: Dante having a grudge against his father
Vergil: Why do you refuse to gain power? The power of our father Sparda?

Dante: Father? I don't have a father. I just don't like you, that's all.


Vergil fight 2: Dante speaking proudly of Sparda and what he inheritated from him
Dante: We are the sons of Sparda. Within each of us flows his blood.
But more important, his soul! And now, my soul is saying it wants
to stop you!
 
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The question was actually how DMC3 has less character development than DMC1. It doesn't seem to have. And isn't a 180 degree motivational change sort of what happens in DmC, as well? There's not enough substance for the characters to cling onto, if you get what I mean. It's always ''hey, I've got problems too. I now inspire you to help me and help yourself too, even though you had no intention to, like, ever.''
Let's face it, all Devil May Cry games don't exactly have excellent plots, at least not when it concerns the characters. Saying DMC3 is the worst of them and that Dante should definitely show change toward who he will be in DMC1, well, that's an opinion. DMC3 did not try to be the intro to DMC1, in my view. It explained the stuff between Dante and Vergil and went more into the themes of DMC, but I don't think DMC3 really tried to show a change from DMC3 to DMC1 Dante. It did show that he was eventually willing to take responsibility, though. And he accepted Sparda as his father.

Like I said, character development should happen over time, it shouldn't just go: ''Hey, thingy learned something, and he is now the perfect character. He will be perfect in the next games. The end''. That's just not how it works. But I'm fine with games that don't feature character development (of the main character). I think it can be refreshing to play a game that celebrates a character for who he is, not who he will/might become.
 
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Well back on topic;

I really don't care for capcom anymore. They made the mistake of rebooting a video game franchise and knew that backlash would come in the thousands, but they really didn't do anything to try and calm it down. Then Tameen came in and said what he thought, and made the rookie mistake of speaking his mind instead of talking behind false words like every other director. I like Tameen because he's actually got balls to say what he wants to say, and stick by his words, however he really messed up in saying his thoughts on old Dante about him not being cool anymore. His next mistake was pretty much cutting his hair like new Dante's before the trailer even came out. Since then, he's had to constantly change his hair style over and over until he finally just went skin head.

Do I think NT deserved the crap it got, no they didn't. NT did their job; make a rebooted DMC game with Capcom looking over them to tell them what was good and what wasn't. They did what was to be done, and everyone will either keep hating, or have the maturity to let it go and move on. Besides, there's not gonna be anymore Devil May Cry for a while in general and Capcom is running low on money while suffering. Meanwhile NT got a lot of recognition from gaming magazines, and other publishers, which means they didn't suffer a thing and their already working on a new game. DmC was the worst selling of all DMC games, but for NT, this game was a big success for them because at least it sold a great amount for a game in such circumstances.

NT don't deserve the hate, but I think this is also a good learning experience for them. Now if they ever make a DmC2, they should ignore the loud mouth assholes of the fanbase, and rather listen to those who have legitimate issues and opinions to help build on the game. Hell, they could do that for NT's newest game coming out soon.

Capcom mad the mistake and is now dealing with money problems and is falling off pretty badly.
NT however are still a float thanks to DmC, so they'll be doing a little better as time goes on. At least that's how I see it.


Now then, the question to character of DMC1 to DMC3.

Dante's character in DMC3 was understandable because he was a young frat boy brat who talked a lot of sh*t and didn't care about what people think or their well being. He preferred to have a good time killing demons and going up a castle like it was all a big video game (no pun intended) however he then met Lady who, even though was a human, drove herself to the point of death to find her father and take revenge on him. Dante assumed it all as a joke, until he saw that Lady was right before her assumed dead father and asked if she was going to shot. When she doesn't Dante is questioning if this was all really a joke to her or not, and rather if she's got a reason to fight, what's his reason then? Then we get to where Dante and Lady fight and by this time, Dante now realizes that these demons are really causing pain and suffering for humans and that humans really did have so much to lose. Thus his line of not giving a damn changing once he met Lady, a human who actually fought off these demons herself for the goal she set for herself and thus, her being stronger for it. Now Dante wants that same power and drive in his soul, and decides to take this job more seriously then he use to. The final nail was losing his brother, keeping it in his soul that he must fight to save humanity and prevent anyone from becoming mad for power as Ahrkam and Vergil did.

Thus we come to his character in DMC1 where he's accepted this responsibility with time and has accepted becoming a Devil hunter full time.
 
NT gets all the blame because they were the ones making the reboot. But it's not ALL their faults. Capcom was literally sitting right next to Ninja Theory telling them "Yes that's good" or "No you need to change this" The game was released with Capcom agreeing on the changes for better or for worse.

And I'm not agreeing you should blame Capcom to! I don't expect to see tomorrow and eveyone is wearing shirts that rebel against the reboot and companies! Sure it's nice to point a finger at someone and say "It's your fault!" But stop pointing and start thinking! Blaming someone won't help anyone. Hah. I won't be surprise if the new DmC is horrible and they did that on purpose to troll us all for being like this! If they want to hear something from you it's how they can improve not how they failed! As epic as it was. Let's get an epic WIN not epic FAIL! Is one bad game worth destroying the companies for? They've had good games and bad games. The good games make up for the bad. That's how Devil May Cry was saved... for a while... Maybe a miracle will happen-- "NO!" "But--" "NO!" "..."
Just MAYBE! :(
 
NT gets all the blame because they were the ones making the reboot. But it's not ALL their faults. Capcom was literally sitting right next to Ninja Theory telling them "Yes that's good" or "No you need to change this" The game was released with Capcom agreeing on the changes for better or for worse.

And I'm not agreeing you should blame Capcom to! I don't expect to see tomorrow and eveyone is wearing shirts that rebel against the reboot and companies! Sure it's nice to point a finger at someone and say "It's your fault!" But stop pointing and start thinking! Blaming someone won't help anyone. Hah. I won't be surprise if the new DmC is horrible and they did that on purpose to troll us all for being like this! If they want to hear something from you it's how they can improve not how they failed! As epic as it was. Let's get an epic WIN not epic FAIL! Is one bad game worth destroying the companies for? They've had good games and bad games. The good games make up for the bad. That's how Devil May Cry was saved... for a while... Maybe a miracle will happen-- "NO!" "But--" "NO!" "..."
Just MAYBE! :(

I must agree. Have we come to an age of modern society (including cyberspace) where human beings would rather point fingers at each other rather than admitting their own mistakes and would rather get all caught-up in their own self-beliefs and lose sight of the truth?
I saw the truth of DMC myself! DMC was never saved! Kamiya-san never intended the DMC series to be like this! He wanted the next cast of DMC characters to be different for each and every DMC game that comes after!
As for NT, we must look at both sides of the coin, at both Yin and Yang of that company! I believe there should be a thing called "another shot" or "second chance/s".
 
Gotta wonder...did you actually read the articles those phrases you hate him for came from? Because it sure sounds a lot like you just parroted some other stuff you heard around the 'net without looking at the sources.

Tameem implied that listening to fans would lead to creative bankruptcy. In middle of a heated controversy, what you do is talk about fans as if they are negative towards development.
What he actually said was "So far it's the DMC fans who have been vociferous about not wanting to play it. [Laughs] It's the people who haven't been interested in DMC since the first ones who are starting to get interested. But I'm not a marketeer. Philosophically, the way to make a successful game is to believe in what you're doing, then hope that sales follow. I'm not trying to design around what I think people will want. That's where you get into creative bankruptcy. That, more than anything, will kill a series."

It's also very true, if you just did what everyone wanted, you'd end up with something rather shallow and devoid of charm. No new ground would ever be broken, no innovation would ever take place. This is the exact situation the gaming industry is in right now, where developers go with what's "safe," and exactly what people want, so that they can keep the profits high. It's why this current generation is inundated by FPS Call of Duty clones. It's why some aging franchises that had nothing to do with shooters became shooters.

There's no real implication that listening to fans would lead to creative bankruptcy. His answer wasn't even in regard to listening to fans, it was about what he thought when people said "Only DMC fans will like this, you're not going to win a new audience."

Tameem arrogance, "Fans secretly want to like DmC"
He actually said "The people who are skeptical secretly want to like it. And our job is to prove it's Devil May Cry in essence."

Was that not true...did you guys not want to like the new game in the DMC franchise? Did you not hope that everything would turn out alright and the game would be something to like? What he essentially said was that despite how upset it makes people, they want it to turn out well, to play like a DMC game and be as good as they want it to be.

There's no "Oh yeah, they hate it but they really want it," it's just "We know you're worried and want it to actually be worth the drastic changes."

I mean, the biggest concern back in 2010 when it was announced was really, if the game looks like this, will it still play like it used to.

On that subject, would people have been okay with DmC if it ended up with such similar mechanics that it was almost a re-skin if DMC3, but with a different story and look?

Tameem comments about Dante: laughable and outdated.
This is old hat by now. Feeling upset about it by removing all context is your own fault :/ DMC was made using a lot of things that were popular at the time, and the classic Dante's style is not something that fits with the DmC Dante "everyman" concept, like...at all.

Tameem using Bloody Palace to make himself look good. Capcom said "We will aim to make perfect DMC", yet on Twitter Tameem said "Here have Bloody Palace, who says developers dont give free content". When Bloody Palace is a standard in a DMC game, and similar content (Crucial Darksiders) is becoming a standard in H&S genre.
Oh c'mon...that joke was a general jab at the state of the gaming industry where DLC has become a necessity.

Not to mention DLC is totally also Capcom's decision to implement. In an era where DLC being required to make a game feel complete, getting it for free is the next best thing to actually having everything on the disc without a paywall.

Tameem joking about rebooting Paddington the bear on twitter. Seems to me he finds joy in joking about the issue surrounding Dante´s reboot.
So finding light of a situation where people wished for his destitution and even death over doing his job is something to hate him over, too? Wow...

Tameem calling Trish a prostitute, ignoring that Trish´s representation in DMC 1 was anything but prostitute like.
Taking more stuff out of context, since when he said that he wasn't talking about Trish in particular. In fact, Trish was never even mentioned in that entire article - just the words "big tits," which came from the interviewer. It was an overall discussion about how NT wrote female characters that weren't there to just be eye-candy or sexually provocative (because that's just boring), and how Tameem felt gamers liked female characters with more substance to them, over the ones that were basically "prostitutes with guns."

It's really DMC's own fault for utilizing the old femme fatale shtick with like 75% of its female leads. Not that it's a bad thing, DMC was always really about the campy style, and the femme fatale shtick was as much a part of it as Dante's dorky action hero moments.

The wig scene in DmC, totally unecesary.
Learn to take a narrative-related joke for what it is, instead of trying to add in some extra layer of insult to it.

Man, it's like those parents who crusaded against rock music because they swore they heard satanic stuff on songs played in reverse...

I can´t help think that this finger was meant to fans who didnt like DmC:

That's not even Tameem...is Tim Phillips' own antics now all Tameem's responsibility? He was in character~ Granted Tameem is the director of DmC, but...after all the sh!t Ninja Theory went through, it's pretty much carte blanche for them to give the middle finger to all the people who spewed all that vitriol.

Tameem also said he didn´t give a sh1t about how DmC sold saleswise. That shows he´s also a pretentious prick. Because...his company got paid independt of sales.
So his "I dont care"-attitude is without merit, as he has shown with Enslaved that he does care about sales.
Enslaved went multiplat because of sales.
Once again, totally out of context. "From my point of view there's only one way to try and make a successful game, and that's to make the game you want to play. A game that everyone involved is proud of. So from that point of view I don't care if it sells a thousand units or two million units. I believe the time you spend making something has to be worthwhile. You've got 20 productive years of work in your life; if you're gonna spend ten or 15 percent of it on something, make it worthwhile."

Tameem was asked what he thought about people saying it wouldn't sell 5 million units, and he was talking about not worrying about the sales, and making what you set out to make in the first place. If you make too many compromises with your project to adhere to just what sells well, then you're not being true to your original concept, and it goes right back into the creative bankruptcy thing, where you're just playing it safe.

I'm pretty sure all those indie developers out there sure cared about making a game that sold millions of units too. No? Yeah, they made games because they put their hearts into them, and they wanted to make something they would be proud of.

I can easily relate to that. I'm not writing for the money, I'm writing to give people some entertaining stories.

Sorry you don't like my attitude, IncaDemo, but it's not like a relish trying to prove you wrong or something, it just happens that you say a lot of things that I either don't believe or I know aren't right.

Welp! I'm out. It's time for me to catch some shut-eye.​
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I still consider DMC1 and DMC3 my favorites, not to mention my personal fav "Dante"s are there.


I think I'll always like the DMC1 Dante the most. Not quite sure why. Maybe it's because it was just the game that sparked my love for the series (although at the time it was just one game...oh God so long ago). It's also my favorite costume...and as much as I love the DMC4 Rebellion, Alastor's always gonna have a special place in my heart.

I liked the joke in Viewtiful Joe Red Hot Rumble where Dante asked if Alastor was angry at him for never taking the sword on other adventures >.<
 
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