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Demi-fiend

Metempsychosis
Supporter 2014
I didn't write this. However, I do agree with everything it says, though.

One might think that by now even Americans would have caught on to the constant stream of false alarms that Washington sounds in order to deceive the people into supporting its hidden agendas.

The public fell for the lie that the Taliban in Afghanistan are terrorists allied with al Qaeda. Americans fought a war for 13 years that enriched Dick Cheney’s firm, Halliburton, and other private interests only to end in another Washington failure.

The public fell for the lie that Saddam Hussein in Iraq had “weapons of mass destruction” that were a threat to America and that if the US did not invade Iraq Americans risked a “mushroom cloud going up over an American city.” With the rise of ISIS, this long war apparently is far from over. Billions of dollars more in profits will pour into the coffers of the US military security complex as Washington fights those who are redrawing the false Middle East boundaries created by the British and French after WW I when the British and French seized territories of the former Ottoman Empire.

The American public fell for the lies told about Gaddafi in Libya. The formerly stable and prosperous country is now in chaos.

The American public fell for the lie that Iran has, or is building, nuclear weapons. Sanctioned and reviled by the West, Iran has shifted toward an Eastern orientation, thereby removing a principal oil producer from Western influence.

The public fell for the lie that Assad of Syria used “chemical weapons against his own people.” The jihadists that Washington sent to overthrow Assad have turned out to be, according to Washington’s propaganda, a threat to America.

The greatest threat to the world is Washington’s insistence on its hegemony. The ideology of a handful of neoconservatives is the basis for this insistence. We face the situation in which a handful of American neoconservative psychopaths claim to determine the fate of countries.

Many still believe Washington’s lies, but increasingly the world sees Washington as the greatest threat to peace and life on earth. The claim that America is “exceptional and indispensable” is used to justify Washington’s right to dictate to other countries.

The casualties of Washington’s bombings are invariably civilians, and the deaths will produce more recruits for ISIS. Already there are calls for Washington to reintroduce “boots on the ground” in Iraq. Otherwise, Western civilization is doomed, and our heads will be cut off. The newly created propaganda of a “Russian threat” requires more NATO spending and more military bases on Russia’s borders. A “quick reaction force” is being created to respond to a nonexistent threat of a Russian invasion of the Baltics, Poland, and Europe.

Usually it takes the American public a year, or two, three, or four to realize that it has been deceived by lies and propaganda, but by that time the public has swallowed a new set of lies and propaganda and is all concerned about the latest “threat.” The American public seems incapable of understanding that just as the first, second, third, fourth, and fifth, threat was a hoax, so is the sixth threat, and so will be the seventh, eighth, and ninth.

Moreover, none of these American military attacks on other countries has resulted in a better situation, as Vladimir Putin honestly states. Yet, the public and its representatives in Congress support each new military adventure despite the record of deception and failure.

Perhaps if Americans were taught their true history in place of idealistic fairy tales, they would be less gullible and less susceptible to government propaganda. I have recommended Oliver Stone and Peter Kuznick’s The Untold History of the US, Howard Zinn’s A People’s History of the US, and now I recommend Stephen Kinzer’s The Brothers, the story of the long rule of John Foster and Allen Dulles over the State Department and CIA and their demonization of reformist governments that they often succeeded in overthrowing. Kinzer’s history of the Dulles brothers’ plots to overthrow six governments provides insight into how Washington operates today.

In 1953 the Dulles brothers overthrew Iran’s elected leader, Mossadegh and imposed the Shah, thus poisoning American-Iranian relations through the present day. Americans might yet be led into a costly and pointless war with Iran, because of the Dulles brothers poisoning of relations in 1953.

The Dulles brothers overthrew Guatemala’s popular president Arbenz, because his land reform threatened the interest of the Dulles brothers’ Sullivan & Cromwell law firm’s United Fruit Company client. The brothers launched an amazing disinformation campaign depicting Arbenz as a dangerous communist who was a threat to Western civilization. The brothers enlisted dictators such as Somoza in Nicaragua and Batista in Cuba against Arbenz. The CIA organized air strikes and an invasion force. But nothing could happen until Arbenz’s strong support among the people in Guatemala could be shattered. The brothers arranged this through Cardinal Spellman, who enlisted Archbishop Rossell y Arellano. “A pastoral letter was read on April 9, 1954 in all Guatemalan churches.”

A masterpiece of propaganda, the pastoral letter misrepresented Arbenz as a dangerous communist who was the enemy of all Guatemalans. False radio broadcasts produced a fake reality of freedom fighter victories and army defections. Arbenz asked the UN to send fact finders, but Washington prevented that from happening. American journalists, with the exception of James Reston, supported the lies. Washington threatened and bought off Guatemala’s senior military commanders, who forced Arbenz to resign. The CIA’s chosen and well paid “liberator,” Col. Castillo Armas, was installed as Arbenz’s successor.

We recently witnessed a similar operation in Ukraine.

President Eisenhower thanked the CIA for averting “a Communist beachhead in our hemisphere,” and Secretary of State John Foster Dulles gave a national TV and radio address in which he declared that the events in Guatemala “expose the evil purpose of the Kremlin.” This despite the uncontested fact that the only outside power operating in Guatemala was the Dulles brothers.

What had really happened is that a democratic and reformist government was overthrown because it compensated United Fruit Company for the nationalization of the company’s fallow land at a value listed by the company on its tax returns. America’s leading law firm or perhaps more accurately, America’s foreign policy-maker, Sullivan & Cromwell, had no intention of permitting a democratic government to prevail over the interests of the law firm’s client, especially when senior partners of the firm controlled both overt and covert US foreign policy. The two brothers, whose family members were invested in the United Fruit Company, simply applied the resources of the CIA, State Department, and US media to the protection of their private interests. The extraordinary gullibility of the American people, the corrupt American media, and the indoctrinated and impotent Congress allowed the Dulles brothers to succeed in overthrowing a democracy.

Keep in mind that this use of the US government in behalf of private interests occurred 60 years ago long before the corrupt Clinton, George W. Bush, and Obama regimes. And no doubt in earlier times as well.

The Dulles brothers next intended victim was Ho Chi Minh. Ho, a nationalist leader, asked for America’s help in freeing Vietnam from French colonial rule. But John Foster Dulles, a self-righteous anti-communist, miscast Ho as a Communist Threat who was springing the domino theory on the Western innocents. Nationalism and anti-colonialism, Foster declared, were merely a cloak for communist subversion.

Paul Kattenburg, the State Department desk officer for Vietnam suggested that instead of war, the US should give Ho $500 million in reconstruction aid to rebuild the country from war and French misrule, which would free Ho from dependence on Russian and Chinese support, and, thereby, influence. Ho appealed to Washington several times, but the demonic inflexibility of the Dulles brothers prevented any sensible response. Instead, the hysteria whipped-up over the “communist threat” by the Dulles brothers landed the United States in the long, costly, fiasco known as the Vietnam War. Kattenburg later wrote that it was suicidal for the US “to cut out its eyes and ears, to castrate its analytic capacity, to shut itself off from the truth because of blind prejudice.” Unfortunately for Americans and the world, castrated analytic capacity is Washington’s strongest suit.

The Dulles brothers’ next targets were President Sukarno of Indonesia, Prime Minister Patrice Lumumba of Congo, and Fidel Castro. The plot against Castro was such a disastrous failure that it cost Allen Dulles his job. President Kennedy lost confidence in the agency and told his brother Bobby that after his reelection he was going to break the CIA into a thousand pieces. When President Kennedy removed Allen Dulles, the CIA understood the threat and struck first.

Warren Nutter, my Ph.D. dissertation chairman, later Assistant Secretary of Defense for International Security Affairs, taught his students that for the US government to maintain the people’s trust, which democracy requires, the government’s policies must be affirmations of our principles and be openly communicated to the people. Hidden agendas, such as those of the Dulles brothers and the Clinton, Bush and Obama regimes, must rely on secrecy and manipulation and, thereby, arouse the distrust of the people. If Americans are too brainwashed to notice, many foreign nationals are not.

The US government’s secret agendas have cost Americans and many peoples in the world tremendously. Essentially, the Foster brothers created the Cold War with their secret agendas and anti-communist hysteria. Secret agendas committed Americans to long, costly, and unnecessary wars in Vietnam and the Middle East. Secret CIA and military agendas intending regime change in Cuba were blocked by President John F. Kennedy and resulted in the assassination of a president, who, for all his faults, was likely to have ended the Cold War twenty years before Ronald Reagan seized the opportunity.

Secret agendas have prevailed for so long that the American people themselves are now corrupted. As the saying goes, “a fish rots from the head.” The rot in Washington now permeates the country.

I think I'll keep the author anonymous -- just because.
 
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Exejpgwmv

Well-known Member
I didn't write this. However, I do agree with everything it says, though.

One might think that by now even Americans would have caught on to the constant stream of false alarms that Washington sounds in order to deceive the people into supporting its hidden agendas.

The public fell for the lie that the Taliban in Afghanistan are terrorists allied with al Qaeda. Americans fought a war for 13 years that enriched Dick Cheney’s firm, Halliburton, and other private interests only to end in another Washington failure.

The public fell for the lie that Saddam Hussein in Iraq had “weapons of mass destruction” that were a threat to America and that if the US did not invade Iraq Americans risked a “mushroom cloud going up over an American city.” With the rise of ISIS, this long war apparently is far from over. Billions of dollars more in profits will pour into the coffers of the US military security complex as Washington fights those who are redrawing the false Middle East boundaries created by the British and French after WW I when the British and French seized territories of the former Ottoman Empire.

The American public fell for the lies told about Gaddafi in Libya. The formerly stable and prosperous country is now in chaos.

The American public fell for the lie that Iran has, or is building, nuclear weapons. Sanctioned and reviled by the West, Iran has shifted toward an Eastern orientation, thereby removing a principal oil producer from Western influence.

The public fell for the lie that Assad of Syria used “chemical weapons against his own people.” The jihadists that Washington sent to overthrow Assad have turned out to be, according to Washington’s propaganda, a threat to America.

The greatest threat to the world is Washington’s insistence on its hegemony. The ideology of a handful of neoconservatives is the basis for this insistence. We face the situation in which a handful of American neoconservative psychopaths claim to determine the fate of countries.

Many still believe Washington’s lies, but increasingly the world sees Washington as the greatest threat to peace and life on earth. The claim that America is “exceptional and indispensable” is used to justify Washington’s right to dictate to other countries.

The casualties of Washington’s bombings are invariably civilians, and the deaths will produce more recruits for ISIS. Already there are calls for Washington to reintroduce “boots on the ground” in Iraq. Otherwise, Western civilization is doomed, and our heads will be cut off. The newly created propaganda of a “Russian threat” requires more NATO spending and more military bases on Russia’s borders. A “quick reaction force” is being created to respond to a nonexistent threat of a Russian invasion of the Baltics, Poland, and Europe.

Usually it takes the American public a year, or two, three, or four to realize that it has been deceived by lies and propaganda, but by that time the public has swallowed a new set of lies and propaganda and is all concerned about the latest “threat.” The American public seems incapable of understanding that just as the first, second, third, fourth, and fifth, threat was a hoax, so is the sixth threat, and so will be the seventh, eighth, and ninth.

Moreover, none of these American military attacks on other countries has resulted in a better situation, as Vladimir Putin honestly states. Yet, the public and its representatives in Congress support each new military adventure despite the record of deception and failure.

Perhaps if Americans were taught their true history in place of idealistic fairy tales, they would be less gullible and less susceptible to government propaganda. I have recommended Oliver Stone and Peter Kuznick’s The Untold History of the US, Howard Zinn’s A People’s History of the US, and now I recommend Stephen Kinzer’s The Brothers, the story of the long rule of John Foster and Allen Dulles over the State Department and CIA and their demonization of reformist governments that they often succeeded in overthrowing. Kinzer’s history of the Dulles brothers’ plots to overthrow six governments provides insight into how Washington operates today.

In 1953 the Dulles brothers overthrew Iran’s elected leader, Mossadegh and imposed the Shah, thus poisoning American-Iranian relations through the present day. Americans might yet be led into a costly and pointless war with Iran, because of the Dulles brothers poisoning of relations in 1953.

The Dulles brothers overthrew Guatemala’s popular president Arbenz, because his land reform threatened the interest of the Dulles brothers’ Sullivan & Cromwell law firm’s United Fruit Company client. The brothers launched an amazing disinformation campaign depicting Arbenz as a dangerous communist who was a threat to Western civilization. The brothers enlisted dictators such as Somoza in Nicaragua and Batista in Cuba against Arbenz. The CIA organized air strikes and an invasion force. But nothing could happen until Arbenz’s strong support among the people in Guatemala could be shattered. The brothers arranged this through Cardinal Spellman, who enlisted Archbishop Rossell y Arellano. “A pastoral letter was read on April 9, 1954 in all Guatemalan churches.”

A masterpiece of propaganda, the pastoral letter misrepresented Arbenz as a dangerous communist who was the enemy of all Guatemalans. False radio broadcasts produced a fake reality of freedom fighter victories and army defections. Arbenz asked the UN to send fact finders, but Washington prevented that from happening. American journalists, with the exception of James Reston, supported the lies. Washington threatened and bought off Guatemala’s senior military commanders, who forced Arbenz to resign. The CIA’s chosen and well paid “liberator,” Col. Castillo Armas, was installed as Arbenz’s successor.

We recently witnessed a similar operation in Ukraine.

President Eisenhower thanked the CIA for averting “a Communist beachhead in our hemisphere,” and Secretary of State John Foster Dulles gave a national TV and radio address in which he declared that the events in Guatemala “expose the evil purpose of the Kremlin.” This despite the uncontested fact that the only outside power operating in Guatemala was the Dulles brothers.

What had really happened is that a democratic and reformist government was overthrown because it compensated United Fruit Company for the nationalization of the company’s fallow land at a value listed by the company on its tax returns. America’s leading law firm or perhaps more accurately, America’s foreign policy-maker, Sullivan & Cromwell, had no intention of permitting a democratic government to prevail over the interests of the law firm’s client, especially when senior partners of the firm controlled both overt and covert US foreign policy. The two brothers, whose family members were invested in the United Fruit Company, simply applied the resources of the CIA, State Department, and US media to the protection of their private interests. The extraordinary gullibility of the American people, the corrupt American media, and the indoctrinated and impotent Congress allowed the Dulles brothers to succeed in overthrowing a democracy.

Keep in mind that this use of the US government in behalf of private interests occurred 60 years ago long before the corrupt Clinton, George W. Bush, and Obama regimes. And no doubt in earlier times as well.

The Dulles brothers next intended victim was Ho Chi Minh. Ho, a nationalist leader, asked for America’s help in freeing Vietnam from French colonial rule. But John Foster Dulles, a self-righteous anti-communist, miscast Ho as a Communist Threat who was springing the domino theory on the Western innocents. Nationalism and anti-colonialism, Foster declared, were merely a cloak for communist subversion.

Paul Kattenburg, the State Department desk officer for Vietnam suggested that instead of war, the US should give Ho $500 million in reconstruction aid to rebuild the country from war and French misrule, which would free Ho from dependence on Russian and Chinese support, and, thereby, influence. Ho appealed to Washington several times, but the demonic inflexibility of the Dulles brothers prevented any sensible response. Instead, the hysteria whipped-up over the “communist threat” by the Dulles brothers landed the United States in the long, costly, fiasco known as the Vietnam War. Kattenburg later wrote that it was suicidal for the US “to cut out its eyes and ears, to castrate its analytic capacity, to shut itself off from the truth because of blind prejudice.” Unfortunately for Americans and the world, castrated analytic capacity is Washington’s strongest suit.

The Dulles brothers’ next targets were President Sukarno of Indonesia, Prime Minister Patrice Lumumba of Congo, and Fidel Castro. The plot against Castro was such a disastrous failure that it cost Allen Dulles his job. President Kennedy lost confidence in the agency and told his brother Bobby that after his reelection he was going to break the CIA into a thousand pieces. When President Kennedy removed Allen Dulles, the CIA understood the threat and struck first.

Warren Nutter, my Ph.D. dissertation chairman, later Assistant Secretary of Defense for International Security Affairs, taught his students that for the US government to maintain the people’s trust, which democracy requires, the government’s policies must be affirmations of our principles and be openly communicated to the people. Hidden agendas, such as those of the Dulles brothers and the Clinton, Bush and Obama regimes, must rely on secrecy and manipulation and, thereby, arouse the distrust of the people. If Americans are too brainwashed to notice, many foreign nationals are not.

The US government’s secret agendas have cost Americans and many peoples in the world tremendously. Essentially, the Foster brothers created the Cold War with their secret agendas and anti-communist hysteria. Secret agendas committed Americans to long, costly, and unnecessary wars in Vietnam and the Middle East. Secret CIA and military agendas intending regime change in Cuba were blocked by President John F. Kennedy and resulted in the assassination of a president, who, for all his faults, was likely to have ended the Cold War twenty years before Ronald Reagan seized the opportunity.

Secret agendas have prevailed for so long that the American people themselves are now corrupted. As the saying goes, “a fish rots from the head.” The rot in Washington now permeates the country.

I think I'll keep the author anonymous -- just because.
That's not a very good reason to keep him anonymous. Especially since there are no sources for anything he says.

And he's kinda wrong right off the bat. History classes (From middle to college/university level) don't teach some glorified image of America.
If you don't believe me, just open a highschool level history.
You'll see it has no qualms about showing all the horrible sh*t we did. (Well not ALL, but you know what I mean.)
 

Innsmouth

Sleeping DMC Fan
Supporter 2014
You'll see it has no qualms about showing all the horrible sh*t we did. (Well not ALL, but you know what I mean.)
Main difference from Russia. You won'T ever get to hear about KZ camps, deals cut with nazis, racism in the time of USSR, mass execution, etc. And if you complain about it, you can get up to 5 years of prison sentence.
 

Exejpgwmv

Well-known Member
Main difference from Russia. You won'T ever get to hear about KZ camps, deals cut with nazis, racism in the time of USSR, mass execution, etc. And if you complain about it, you can get up to 5 years of prison sentence.
When are they gonna learn that you can't just act like the past didn't happen?

We have to learn from our mistakes, not pretend we didn't make any.
 

Innsmouth

Sleeping DMC Fan
Supporter 2014
When are they gonna learn that you can't just act like the past didn't happen?

We have to learn from our mistakes, not pretend we didn't make any.
that's typical russian policy. They need to act holy and pretend that USSR is best thing ever happened to a world, while in truth, it was basically non-mmilitary nazi Germany in bigger form.
 

Viper

Well-known Member
Premium
My god, will you people ever learn?! (not you people, someone else I know)
It's always the same story... I gave you a criticism, not to you specifically with your name out but to the whole community that went downhill with you and your buddies on the front, and instead of stopping and thinking about your actions, you pull out old, long deleted conversations with me that for some reason you screencaped and saved (paranoid much?) and write out a long rant trying to paint me an asshole in front of everyone to discredit me. I've seen it happen to me before, I've seen it happen to other people before, and it just keeps happening till I guess there is no one but your close friends and few scared individuals left.
Your friend came to a post where someone was expressing their fear of drama that's been going on, since they struggle with depression and this kind of atmosphere hurts them a lot... didn't stop your friend from trying to stir up more drama by name-dropping an individual that apparently sent them anon hate (I find this odd, since I know that person to be quite happy and busy in another fandom).
I told them off in a more polite way without actually saying any names. They sent me a private message, I explained my opinion and that was it from that side.
Until I came to tumblr this morning and found out that my tag has an entry and I knew it was you... it could only be you...
There is a devil walking among us... he is not a hero, just a nightmare that keeps coming back with poison to spit on you...
 

Rebel Dynasty

Creator of Microcosms
Premium
I grow weary of people's intolerance toward one another for having different opinions--in this case, religious views. I may not have a lot of love for the Mormon community, but I don't despise them, either. If I dislike someone, I dislike individuals, not the entire religion--and I don't gossip like a petty bitch about said denomination, them within ear-shot, no less.

Seriously, what the hell is wrong with you? To think, I almost got to know you, almost fell into the age-old trap of thinking that befriending someone around here might not be so bad...a f*cking farce, if I ever saw one. All you've done is spread your misinformation, your willful ignorance, of one religious denomination around to others, giving them the same false impressions you hold. Please, do tell me--how are your beliefs any better?

Of course, anyone who doesn't actually educate themselves on these matters and believes what you have to say deserves to be duped.

I really don't get it--why can't people just leave well enough, alone? So they don't believe what you believe, so their hierarchy is different--so f*cking what?! Why the hell do you even care? Are they hurting you? No? Then stfu.

-_- Sorry, close-mindedness p*sses me right the f*ck off. Funny world, when a Pagan feels the need to defend other belief systems, because a different sect following the same God can't be bothered to wrap their peanut-sized brains around it.

My philosophy? I respect your right to your views, and as long as you don't tell me my beliefs are "wrong", we'll get along, good as gold. 'Nuff said.
 

Viper

Well-known Member
Premium
Emotionally I'm somewhere between wanting to laugh, cry, scream and murder people.
I should really give up on going back at that one site, especially after an attack was just unleashed on me, but you know... curiosity.
**** roleplaying, **** tumblr, I wish I can turn back the clock and shoot the guy that got me into roleplaying in the first place. I was a better, happier person before.
 

Exejpgwmv

Well-known Member
Emotionally I'm somewhere between wanting to laugh, cry, scream and murder people.
I should really give up on going back at that one site, especially after an attack was just unleashed on me, but you know... curiosity.
**** roleplaying, **** tumblr, I wish I can turn back the clock and shoot the guy that got me into roleplaying in the first place. I was a better, happier person before.
What's roleplaying?
 

Vergil'sBitch

I am Nero's Mom & Obsessed fan girl
Premium
Thank you for making me feel more insecure about myself than I already am. Like I really need that from my own father.
Yes, I am eating a bit more than usual, but then again, my brain is coping with two different serotonin medications.
You're just so fudging unbelievable.
You'd think I was always stuffing food into my mouth... I don't eat all day because I end up sleeping as I can't sleep at night because of the new meds, so I game instead, because I can't game by day as you are always interrupting me!
Plus, I'd rather you didn't ask as me how I was, I know you don't care, so please stop pretending to give a :poop:
 

Shadow

the horror was for love
Premium
Gaming rant: Raaaaaaaaaaaawr! Who told them that proximity detonation for explosive gel was a good idea?! I can't get these takedowns now! >_< *tugs on hair* D*mnit, I do not want to have to start a new game just to get this stupid achievement. *grumblegrumble*

Regular rant: Uuuuuugh. *sobs*
 

Vergil'sBitch

I am Nero's Mom & Obsessed fan girl
Premium
Yep. I was right. The worst thing about DmC isn't the dumbed down combat. It's those obnoxious NT butt lickers and Tameem's c.um eaters.

They exist? From what I've heard, I thought the majority of the gaming community hated NT.
*It's true then, you do learn something new everyday.*

CRT:No matter what i do, this doesn't look right.... GRRRRRRRR....
 

Pale Rider

Wickedly good
They exist? From what I've heard, I thought the majority of the gaming community hated NT.
*It's true then, you do learn something new everyday.*

CRT:No matter what i do, this doesn't look right.... GRRRRRRRR....


If it wasn't a sarcastic question, then I would sadly say, yes, they very much exist. I wouldn't give two shi.ts if someone wakes Tameem up with a blowjob everyday and rides his d!ck into the sunset, but when that person start to show the pain in their ass due to riding, it annoys the sh!t outta me.

It has almost become impossible to ignore the fact that some people swear by NT, especially after the release of DmC. Nothing can come bad outta NT- they are holy grail of what's left of humanity in todays world.
 

Viper

Well-known Member
Premium
Now they attack Tom and Jerry, too?!
I find far more things today to be by miles more offensive than the maid Mammy. She might be a maid, and the mentality back then didn't give her race much chance to be anything different, but to find it offensive enough for Amazon to warn people about it?
Put a racist warning on every movie that depicts African Americans as nothing but drug dealers and prostitutes in shabby neighborhoods.
Put a racist (and sexist) warning on every music video that has an African American woman singing how she's gonna please her man while shaking her large behind to entice attention.
I look at pictures of shows that are in line with Tom and Jerry and see nothing but white faces. Put a racist warning on that.
Better yet, parents should sit down and teach their kids to tell a difference between stereotype and reality, and to learn about past times, instead of trying to shove everything under the carpet.
I watched Tom and Jerry as a kid, I still didn't grow up to be a racist, I recognize people of all races to be just people like any of us. That's called taking time to think about things.
 

LordOfDarkness

The Dark Avenger © †
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@Dante's Stalker: Aw, life can be very tough. Tough on anyone. But I hope you pull through. I hope everything goes okay. And I know that when your staring down at your little newborn baby. Life sucks will probably be the last thing on your mind.

I care. A lot of people on here care about you too.
 
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