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LordOfDarkness said:
To assume that you're not a 'true' fan of DMC just because you like DmC is not only false for the reason that you can like two different things. It's false entirely, because DmC is a whole other game. Being a fan of DmC does not coincide with whether you can be a fan of Devil May Cry or not.

I can be a DMC fan and a DmC fan. To say that I can't be a 'true' DMC fan if I like DmC is moronic, because DmC is not canon to DMC.
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I haven't said what you just said. I said that if you ditch Dante and DMC for DmC and it's character then your not a true fan.

And if DmC is a whole other game (something Capcom and Ninja theory didn't advertise it as) then:
You either like DmC and it's character
or DMC and Dante
You can't like both games equally. One of them will stand out. And that is my point. And DmC isn't looked at as a different game or a new game. It's looked at as a DMC game and that's how it's marketed as well.

Liking DmC does not say that your not a true fan of DMC
But when you like DmC alot more than DMC and Dante then your not a true fan.

And considering the fact that DmC is a game that might take out DMC, then you can't be a true fan of DmC and DMC at same time. Because they aren't so different that people think "DmC is not DMC".

In other words: when you devote your "fanhood" (lol is that right to call it?) to DmC and it's character then your no longer a DMC and Dante fan.
 
I guess many people can take
things out of their real context
on the Internet. It can be such
a shame at times.
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Well yeah, there are people who take things out of their real context and its a shame. Unfortunately, the shame was on me this time.

@Cooldemon
Sorry fella. I just don't believe in anything like 'true fans' or 'real fans' or whatever.
 
Don't worry CoolDemon, my comment wasn't directed at you. It was just directed to this thread for anyone to read.
 
CoolDemon said:
Asomo do me a favor since your for DmC. Be quiet about what DMC
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No.

CoolDemon said:
They are in the process of killing Dante. They have already replaced him.
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No, they haven't. They have merely put the original design on the shelf.

CoolDemon said:
What are you talking about in this second pharagraph? It's a confusing post and it seems as if you've been a former Capcom worker.
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What is it you don't understand? Like I said, people do not realize how much work there is behing making a game. So when they say "They can just..." they simply do not realize that, no, they can't just do whatever... It's not as simple as that.

CoolDemon said:
DMC 4 is a lazy product. That is why it got 8.5 rate. That is why everyone notices that the story is messed up. They were lazy. They have mad already 3 DMC games, gameplay shouldn't be a problem even with lazyiness.
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Agreed. DMC4's story was rather out of place and the gameplay is rather simplistic and lacking.

CoolDemon said:
You speak of DMC and Dante as if your a fan of him? I find that contradicting considering you accept and like a DmC with a copy Dante. I mean a fan is supposed to like the character right? Then what's the problem with white hair, half demon and half human Dante who likes to eat pizza? And it's funny how the media for DmC is game while you suggest books for DMC...
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Wait wait wait... Are you saying that because I support DmC then I can't be a fan of the original series and the original Dante? Are you serious?
There is nothing wrong with the original Dante or the original series, except that the storyline is a f*cked up mess with no consistency. I love the original series and the original Dante. However, I like what I have seen so far of the new Dante and the new DmC as well. It's not all black and white, you know. You don't HAVE to be fan of one or the other, it is quite plausible to like both... And that is what I do.

If you can't accept that, well, too bad for you then. And that is as polite as I can put it.
 
Asmodaius said:
No.

No, they haven't. They have merely put the original design on the shelf.

What is it you don't understand? Like I said, people do not realize how much work there is behing making a game. So when they say "They can just..." they simply do not realize that, no, they can't just do whatever... It's not as simple as that.

Agreed. DMC4's story was rather out of place and the gameplay is rather simplistic and lacking.

Wait wait wait... Are you saying that because I support DmC then I can't be a fan of the original series and the original Dante? Are you serious?
There is nothing wrong with the original Dante or the original series, except that the storyline is a f*cked up mess with no consistency. I love the original series and the original Dante. However, I like what I have seen so far of the new Dante and the new DmC as well. It's not all black and white, you know. You don't HAVE to be fan of one or the other, it is quite plausible to like both... And that is what I do.

If you can't accept that, well, too bad for you then. And that is as polite as I can put it.
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If they could make DmC a game that's supposed to have great story, then they could just make DMC storyline better. Or are you saying that's not possible? Game making isn't all about making great pretty graphics. It's about making games. And great games have proven that games aren't great because of graphics. So if Ninja theory for example is working alot it's because they are focusing on graphics more than on gameplay.

Yes, they are in process of killing DMC Dante. "We'll see how the reboot goes" is obvious. And if they don't kill Dante are they intending to use him some other time? Then that pretty much means he's dead.

I am saying a fan can devote themself only to one game of two similar. DmC and DMC may be two different games as Lord have said, but DmC uses DMC and is being marketed as DMC.

So you devote yourself to DmC
or to DMC

But it's clear that you have devoted yourself to DmC because how easily you embrace the changes and speak positvely about it. There is no both because DmC is Ninja theory copying DMC. And if you think Ninja theory's alternative is better then your a DmC fan and not a DMC fan.

And yes there is nothing wrong with DMC except the story - and the story is the part of DMC that should be improved.

It's contradiction if you say your a fan of DMC but you go and embrace DmC despite the only flaw of DMC was the story everything else was good. And instead of talking about why DMC was changed and that the story was the only thing that should have been made better you go on talking about DmC and how great game it might be or is. How Dante is cooler , how bla bla bla.

Just admit it your a fan of DmC , and like parts of DMC. And why shouldn't you like DMC - it's afterall not a copy of another game.

I like Dante's Inferno graphics alot. Does that mean i am a fan of it? No. DMC however i am fan of.
 
CoolDemon said:
If they could make DmC a game that's supposed to have great story, then they could just make DMC storyline better. Or are you saying that's not possible? Game making isn't all about making great pretty graphics. It's about making games. And great games have proven that games aren't great because of graphics. So if Ninja theory for example is working alot it's because they are focusing on graphics more than on gameplay.

Yes, they are in process of killing DMC Dante. "We'll see how the reboot goes" is obvious. And if they don't kill Dante are they intending to use him some other time? Then that pretty much means he's dead.

I am saying a fan can devote themself only to one game of two similar. DmC and DMC may be two different games as Lord have said, but DmC uses DMC and is being marketed as DMC.

So you devote yourself to DmC
or to DMC

But it's clear that you have devoted yourself to DmC because how easily you embrace the changes and speak positvely about it. There is no both because DmC is Ninja theory copying DMC. And if you think Ninja theory's alternative is better then your a DmC fan and not a DMC fan.

And yes there is nothing wrong with DMC except the story - and the story is the part of DMC that should be improved.

It's contradiction if you say your a fan of DMC but you go and embrace DmC despite the only flaw of DMC was the story everything else was good. And instead of talking about why DMC was changed and that the story was the only thing that should have been made better you go on talking about DmC and how great game it might be or is. How Dante is cooler , how bla bla bla.

Just admit it your a fan of DmC , and like parts of DMC. And why shouldn't you like DMC - it's afterall not a copy of another game.

I like Dante's Inferno graphics alot. Does that mean i am a fan of it? No. DMC however i am fan of.
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You really don't get it... It is useless discussing anything with you. So I shan't.
 
I r confused - no one can like two similar games at the same time? Or have I missed something?
 
CoolDemon said:
I am saying a fan can devote themself only to one game of two similar. DmC and DMC may be two different games as Lord have said, but DmC uses DMC and is being marketed as DMC.

So you devote yourself to DmC
or to DMC
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Sorry if I completely missed the point - that's the bit I was confused about?
 
Angel said:
Sorry if I completely missed the point - that's the bit I was confused about?
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I said (or meant) that one can like two similar games, but the one that you like the most is the one your fan of. Example i like Dante's Inferno story and graphics. But i am not a fan of it because i like DMC alot more (gameplay plus story).

Being a fan means simply that you like a game to the extent that it stands out than a other game.
 
So for the purposes of this discussion, how is everyone defining the word "fan" - because it would seem that most people here have their own definition that they create their posts and opinions with. For example, I would use the word within the context of liking something enough to take an active interest in it, whether that be game, films, music etc. But another may take the more stronger definition of "fanatic" which is obviously a more extreme form. Then you get people who fall somewhere in between the two.

I'm genuinely interested as to why someone cannot be a fan of both games of a similar nature?
 
Being a fan is something that is decided by the person itself. There is no set of rules. I like something, therefore I proclaim myself a fan. Whatever else has anyone else to say about this is irrelevant. We make ourselves who we are.
 
Asmodaius said:
Well, apparently, because I seem to like DmC, I can't be a fan of DMC... According to CoolDemon, that is.
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You like DMC.
But you like DmC the most.

So your a fan of DmC. That's how i see it.

If you don't like DmC the most then why are you so on the defensive and calling people ignorant and narrowminded when they don't think like you?

Angel said:
Well I'm kind of trying to follow your side here - perhaps "nature" was just a keyboard ramble word. Similar games, then.
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Sorry i don't understand what you mean. Try again please
 
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