chocolateghost79
First of the Dead
that's exactly how i see it too
Parallel Universe
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GamblingGambitCloud
LoD Come Back!!!
SOOOO STUPID! i liked the idea of a reboot a hell of a whole lot better...get some balls Capcom
V's patron
be loyal to what matters
I thought people knew this since it's reboot but it's a little weird with it's implications. In one universe, did Dante gets his sense of fashion from a shojo fangirl or a punk rock wannabe.
CoolDemon
X will never be Y
Seriously? Are those of you who say "It was obvious it was parallel/alternative universe of DMC by Ninja theory" really brain dead?
Capcom's motive for rebooting DMC is because of money (they want to sell 5M units). They supported Ninja theory's plan to CHANGE DMC so that they could use original DMC series success and channel that "success" to a new game called "DmC".
Ninja theory's plan by themself has to create a fanbase for themself using the DMC assignment but at same time making Capcom happy.
If DmC is Ninja theory's alternate DMC or a paralell universe of DMC then:
Why does everyone involved in DmC project talk about DmC as if it's tied to DMC?
Tameem Antoniades have said "Dante 12 years ago isn't cool no more". WHAT? What role does original Dante have in DmC if DmC is an alternative or a parallel universe to DMC and original Dante?
It's ****en clear that many things Ninja theory and Capcom have said and done is to calm down the storm of angry fans.
They didn't make DmC Donte receive white hair and red jacket because they thought "It will be a great idea!". They did it because fans raged and it was done so that the game would sell more.
From the start to now Capcom and Ninja theory have spoken of or suggested that DmC is a sequel or a prequel to original DMC series.
I will repeat: If DmC is a parallell universe 1) Why was it not stated from beginning 2) Why the **** are the team working on the game speaking of DmC in light of original DMC and Dante? Parallel or alternative game of DmC means "**** original DMC and let's make an a similar game to it with new ideas not old ones".
I swear to god some Gamers are so ****en stupid that they can't read between the lines. They just take what Capcom and Ninja theory says and then think "Ok, because they said that it's cool!".
I can't wait for Ninja theory to fail. They are lousy developers. Tameem Antoniades lead of Ninja theory team stated that "AAA games" are crushing innovation. Bullshit you piece of trash.
Ninja theory : Heavenly sword - used God of War as template (innovation my ass u asshole)
Enslaved (Using the "We are all alone zombie theme" - innovation my ass)
I rather play a small game like classic (great game) Legend of Zelda than play a piece of **** game that Ninja theory produce. They think "Great grpahics, great art, great story equals great game".
Ninja theory have done so much and disrespected so many. That is why i will always point out that they are hypocrites. Besides their games are "average". A game is supposed to be mostly about Gameplay.
Capcom's motive for rebooting DMC is because of money (they want to sell 5M units). They supported Ninja theory's plan to CHANGE DMC so that they could use original DMC series success and channel that "success" to a new game called "DmC".
Ninja theory's plan by themself has to create a fanbase for themself using the DMC assignment but at same time making Capcom happy.
If DmC is Ninja theory's alternate DMC or a paralell universe of DMC then:
Why does everyone involved in DmC project talk about DmC as if it's tied to DMC?
Tameem Antoniades have said "Dante 12 years ago isn't cool no more". WHAT? What role does original Dante have in DmC if DmC is an alternative or a parallel universe to DMC and original Dante?
It's ****en clear that many things Ninja theory and Capcom have said and done is to calm down the storm of angry fans.
They didn't make DmC Donte receive white hair and red jacket because they thought "It will be a great idea!". They did it because fans raged and it was done so that the game would sell more.
From the start to now Capcom and Ninja theory have spoken of or suggested that DmC is a sequel or a prequel to original DMC series.
I will repeat: If DmC is a parallell universe 1) Why was it not stated from beginning 2) Why the **** are the team working on the game speaking of DmC in light of original DMC and Dante? Parallel or alternative game of DmC means "**** original DMC and let's make an a similar game to it with new ideas not old ones".
I swear to god some Gamers are so ****en stupid that they can't read between the lines. They just take what Capcom and Ninja theory says and then think "Ok, because they said that it's cool!".
I can't wait for Ninja theory to fail. They are lousy developers. Tameem Antoniades lead of Ninja theory team stated that "AAA games" are crushing innovation. Bullshit you piece of trash.
Ninja theory : Heavenly sword - used God of War as template (innovation my ass u asshole)
Enslaved (Using the "We are all alone zombie theme" - innovation my ass)
I rather play a small game like classic (great game) Legend of Zelda than play a piece of **** game that Ninja theory produce. They think "Great grpahics, great art, great story equals great game".
Ninja theory have done so much and disrespected so many. That is why i will always point out that they are hypocrites. Besides their games are "average". A game is supposed to be mostly about Gameplay.
lorddemolatron
I think im sort of dimensional traveller lol
Some points are true, and this tie to original DMC still makes me think why this game is in alternate universe.
CoolDemon
X will never be Y
The reason they made DmC Donte receive white hair is because fans were angry as hell.
Same reason behind why they say "DmC" is a parallel universe" to calm down fans who love original Dante.
That is the reason believe me mate! Think pschological and marketing.
Marvel vs CApcom 3 = original Dante ( Vergil was put into this game - many fans happy)
Viewtful joe = has original Dante in it.
People love original Dante.
Leo Tan pr manager said something along the lines "We'll see how DmC goes...if it doesn't go well we will do a DMC 5 (a sequel to original series). If DmC the reboot goes well....INSERT "We will replace that with original serie".
If i have to get all the links pointing to the answers to convince u i will do it. But believe me mate what i have is the truth.
Kammosjuttu
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Has some PR manager really said that? After the angry words you spat out, I find it somewhat hard to believe. :/ Like as if you were just making up stuff just to have fuel for your whining.
But then again, if you really think that, then it's ok. The freedom of opinions and so on.
CoolDemon
X will never be Y
http://captainstarball.com/opinion/dmc-devil-may-cry’s-flimsy-reboot-rationale
Will Capcom look at the numbers the reboot comes in and decide the franchise is the problem? Looking at these unreasonable expectations it’s a possibility. Leo Tan explained: “I think it’s important that we aren’t ruling out the possibility of a Devil May Cry 5 to continue the story. We just want to see where the reboot goes first, before making any further decisions.”
“Where the reboot goes” might mean whether or not it sells. It could also mean whether or not they’re satisfied with it, whether or not they deem it viable etc. In any one of those cases the situation is clear: The future of the series is linked to this game. It is not designed from the beginning as a sure “one off” situation. It is not being promoted as a “spin off” but as a possible future for the franchise; as a replacement for the current series.
It's about reading between the lines. You don't have to be a genius to understand that "Where the reboot goes" means "If it is succesful we will invest in that" in other words discard original DMC series and Dante.
Let me remind you Capcom rebooted and asked for Westernization because they didn't settle with couple million units sold. They didn't do it because they thought "We are gonna make the best DMC game for our fans".
Fact is:
Original Dante is cool
DMC gameplay is the best. That is why it pioneered the genre "Hack and slash"
Fact is:
Ninja theory were hired to work on story
Fact is:
They rebooted the game.
Just because i am angry at Ninja theory does not mean you shouldn't take me seriously. I will show you links to what i say if you ask for it.
Will Capcom look at the numbers the reboot comes in and decide the franchise is the problem? Looking at these unreasonable expectations it’s a possibility. Leo Tan explained: “I think it’s important that we aren’t ruling out the possibility of a Devil May Cry 5 to continue the story. We just want to see where the reboot goes first, before making any further decisions.”
“Where the reboot goes” might mean whether or not it sells. It could also mean whether or not they’re satisfied with it, whether or not they deem it viable etc. In any one of those cases the situation is clear: The future of the series is linked to this game. It is not designed from the beginning as a sure “one off” situation. It is not being promoted as a “spin off” but as a possible future for the franchise; as a replacement for the current series.
It's about reading between the lines. You don't have to be a genius to understand that "Where the reboot goes" means "If it is succesful we will invest in that" in other words discard original DMC series and Dante.
Let me remind you Capcom rebooted and asked for Westernization because they didn't settle with couple million units sold. They didn't do it because they thought "We are gonna make the best DMC game for our fans".
Fact is:
Original Dante is cool
DMC gameplay is the best. That is why it pioneered the genre "Hack and slash"
Fact is:
Ninja theory were hired to work on story
Fact is:
They rebooted the game.
Just because i am angry at Ninja theory does not mean you shouldn't take me seriously. I will show you links to what i say if you ask for it.
ToCool74
"Fair" DmC Skeptic
Sorry but I just gotta post towards these lines.
You make alot of good points, some of which I agree with, but can't you get your point across without calling people "****in stupid" and brain dead?
Please calm down and get your point across in a respectable manner in the future instead of going off the handle and throwing out insults.
Other than that I agree with you on alot of things NT and Capcom are doing.
Kammosjuttu
Well-known Member
So that's where you're coming from. Fair enough.
But it's best to remember the proverb "assumption isn't the same as truth". And even though I think Dante is one very cool guy, it's still not a fact that he is cool because there are (sadly...) people who don't think so. Same goes for it that it isn't a fact that DMC is the best --- a lot of people don't think that, either. DMC and DmC both have fans and haters. I'm glad I can say I like them all.
CoolDemon
X will never be Y
Honestly Kammo if i ask you the question "Who is Dante in DMC serie?" - who pops up in your head? DmC fake Dante or DMC real Dante?
Reason why i say fake Dante is because it's only license that backs up that it is the same guy. And up til now both developers and producers of DmC have not CLARIFIED and been straight with us and said "No, this is not the same Dante. This is an alternative Dante that Ninja theory has made". They did not say anything because they were afraid their motives would be exposed. TONS OF people call DmC for "DMC 5" suggesting that it's a sequel to DMC series - which it is not.
You are right assumptions isn't the same as the truth. But i would say i am pretty close to the truth:
1) Capcom allowed reboot and westernization to sell 5M unites
2) They have not been honest with fans about if it's a prequel or a reboot (testing the waters)
3) Leo Tan Pr Manager said so himself "We'll see how the reboot goes before we make any decisions".
So it's pretty clear that Capcom would replace original DMC serie with DmC if the game is liked by many people.
Also Capcom GENERALLY just loves money and they have become like Hollywood. Make any idea into a game for money.
I hope you will allow me to convince you to not support Ninja theory by renting or buying a used copy of DmC instead of a new one. And please do not think i dislike Ninja theory for NO reason. I have MANY reasons to dislike them for.
Reason why Ninja theory game is called "DmC" and advertised as a DMC game is because of marketing reasons. They channel the success of DMC series towards "DmC".
If i must i will go through all interviews of Ninja theory and Capcom (USA) spokesman Alex Jones to prove my points. But i hope i don't have to.
Reason why i say fake Dante is because it's only license that backs up that it is the same guy. And up til now both developers and producers of DmC have not CLARIFIED and been straight with us and said "No, this is not the same Dante. This is an alternative Dante that Ninja theory has made". They did not say anything because they were afraid their motives would be exposed. TONS OF people call DmC for "DMC 5" suggesting that it's a sequel to DMC series - which it is not.
You are right assumptions isn't the same as the truth. But i would say i am pretty close to the truth:
1) Capcom allowed reboot and westernization to sell 5M unites
2) They have not been honest with fans about if it's a prequel or a reboot (testing the waters)
3) Leo Tan Pr Manager said so himself "We'll see how the reboot goes before we make any decisions".
So it's pretty clear that Capcom would replace original DMC serie with DmC if the game is liked by many people.
Also Capcom GENERALLY just loves money and they have become like Hollywood. Make any idea into a game for money.
I hope you will allow me to convince you to not support Ninja theory by renting or buying a used copy of DmC instead of a new one. And please do not think i dislike Ninja theory for NO reason. I have MANY reasons to dislike them for.
Reason why Ninja theory game is called "DmC" and advertised as a DMC game is because of marketing reasons. They channel the success of DMC series towards "DmC".
If i must i will go through all interviews of Ninja theory and Capcom (USA) spokesman Alex Jones to prove my points. But i hope i don't have to.
Pale Rider
Wickedly good
@CoolDemon
What caught my attention was when you asked Kammo to NOT support NT. Y'know, there are people here who've said that they are gonna pay whatever the price of DmC
would be. So, there's support for NT (Tbh, I also hate this support). I want this DmC to be an epic fail so that Capcom realize there mistake and NT gets what it asked for.
What caught my attention was when you asked Kammo to NOT support NT. Y'know, there are people here who've said that they are gonna pay whatever the price of DmC
would be. So, there's support for NT (Tbh, I also hate this support). I want this DmC to be an epic fail so that Capcom realize there mistake and NT gets what it asked for.
CoolDemon
X will never be Y
I dislike Ninja theory because i have my big reasons for doing so. I didn't know of Ninja theory but i read a bit about what they said about DMC series. And i thought "Ok". And more they blabbered in interviews i realized that they were idiots.
A SMALL reason why i dislike Ninja theory is because that they care more about story and art than gameplay. And i also get vibes from them saying that realistic graphics in a game is what a great game is about .
If you want me to tell you all of the reasons why i dislike Ninja theory i can do that.
A SMALL reason why i dislike Ninja theory is because that they care more about story and art than gameplay. And i also get vibes from them saying that realistic graphics in a game is what a great game is about .
If you want me to tell you all of the reasons why i dislike Ninja theory i can do that.
V's patron
be loyal to what matters
Sure, we got nothing better to do.
Pale Rider
Wickedly good
Personally saying, I disliked Heavenly Sword a lot just because it'd repetitive combat. In other words, SUCKING GAMEPLAY. But a lot of people liked it just because it had a good story and environment claiming that gameplay didn't matter much for them. So yeah... there are people who consider story more than the gameplay. And NT considers such people.
chocolateghost79
First of the Dead
well if you don't like the new DmC rant about it on the appropriate thread. this thread is for topics referring to DmC being a parallel world.
Pale Rider
Wickedly good
^Haha... Only God knows that I was expecting you anytime soon 
Anyways on topic, THE PARALLEL UNIVERSE SOUNDS COOL to me !!
Anyways on topic, THE PARALLEL UNIVERSE SOUNDS COOL to me !!
chocolateghost79
First of the Dead
hahaha sorry, but i would like people to stay on topic, and im glad the parallel world sounds cool to you, i wanna know who is the god of this parallel universe is^Haha... Only God knows that I was expecting you anytime soon
Anyways on topic, THE PARALLEL UNIVERSE SOUNDS COOL to me !!
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