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Even I want to. Also, a parallel universe sweeps out even the slightest of the possibilities of this DmC being related to DMC. Another plus for me.
 
CoolDemon said:
Honestly Kammo if i ask you the question "Who is Dante in DMC serie?" - who pops up in your head? DmC fake Dante or DMC real Dante?

Reason why i say fake Dante is because it's only license that backs up that it is the same guy. And up til now both developers and producers of DmC have not CLARIFIED and been straight with us and said "No, this is not the same Dante. This is an alternative Dante that Ninja theory has made". They did not say anything because they were afraid their motives would be exposed. TONS OF people call DmC for "DMC 5" suggesting that it's a sequel to DMC series - which it is not.

You are right assumptions isn't the same as the truth. But i would say i am pretty close to the truth:
1) Capcom allowed reboot and westernization to sell 5M unites
2) They have not been honest with fans about if it's a prequel or a reboot (testing the waters)
3) Leo Tan Pr Manager said so himself "We'll see how the reboot goes before we make any decisions".

So it's pretty clear that Capcom would replace original DMC serie with DmC if the game is liked by many people.
Also Capcom GENERALLY just loves money and they have become like Hollywood. Make any idea into a game for money.

I hope you will allow me to convince you to not support Ninja theory by renting or buying a used copy of DmC instead of a new one. And please do not think i dislike Ninja theory for NO reason. I have MANY reasons to dislike them for.

Reason why Ninja theory game is called "DmC" and advertised as a DMC game is because of marketing reasons. They channel the success of DMC series towards "DmC".

If i must i will go through all interviews of Ninja theory and Capcom (USA) spokesman Alex Jones to prove my points. But i hope i don't have to.
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Who is Dante? All games, all anime, all manga, all drama CDs --- all are Dante. There is no fake.
And I'm afraid I have to say "no thank you" to your offer of not buying the DmC game; I am going to get it.

And no, don't bother to prove your points... it's ok without you doing so.
 
You guys seem to miss the main point WHY this DmC and this Dante looks different from the original Dante of the DMC series. Capcom went to Ninja Theory and asked them to make this game. Capcom hired NT. Capcom then asked NT to make Dante look as far away from the original design they could, and then Capcom would lead that design back towards the original design until they were happy with the result.

And out of it came the Dante of this DmC.
NT might be the ones who are making this game, but it is with Capcom's support all the way through. NT won't make anything without Capcom's approval. So everything we've seen, all the footage of the DmC we've seen so far, it has all been through the Capcom machine before it went public.

But hey, it's always easy to point fingers and make scapegoats...
 
Every Ninja theory lover always likes to portray Ninja theory´s responsibilities as if they were victim to Capcom iron grip. Capcom asked for big changes.

Let me make that setence in bold to be even more clear:
Capcom asked for big changes. Not spesific changes!

Capcom WAS probably not the one to suggest or was behind:
- Making Dante british affiliated with british flag on jacket
- Making Dante smoke
- Make Dante an angel
- Make a punk street brawler

There has not been any spesific statement or proof showing us that Capcom were responsible for the ideas of Dante being a smoker, a british man, a punk , an angel etc And there is also no proof CLEAR proof that Ninja theory are responsible.

However, are we really stupid humans? Tameem Antoniades and Ninja theory are british. Tameem Antoniades has same hair colour and style as DmC Dante. Tameem Antoniades also smokes just like DMC Dante.

And how did the "angel" part come in? Heavenly sword of course.

I blame Ninja theory because they were the ones behind these ideas. And from what we seen by Tameem their leader:
They don´t care, they got their plans and original Dante is not cool.

You may ask "Why do you care? As long as the game is good!". Because i can´t stand arrogant, disrespecting and phony scums that take credit for other people´s work. Ninja theory didn´t create DMC series. And they DAM better be humble about it. Not that they have been humble.

And it´s funny how many people may think "Ninja theory made DmC and it´s gameplay is awesome!" when Capcom is "overseeing" the project. (in other words probably working on gameplay).

Ninjatheory or Capcom about the collaboration of NT and Capcom for DmC "It´s the perfect marriage":

Ninja theory = Story and Art
Capcom = ???? (Gameplay?)

So Ninja theory and Capcom crews are working on DmC but Ninja theory will be pointed as "The developers". And what does it seem that Ninja theory are working on ? Story and Art, music. They have shown many players that they suck when it comes to Gameplay .

If you care so much about a "good game" then go ask Ninja theory to make one without touching DMC series. See how well they will do.

Platinum Games (one of founders Hideki Kamiya the DMC creator) left Capcom. So of course Capcom would not go "Hey Platinum Games members, you guys left us, will ya develop new DMC game for us?".

You may say "CoolDemon Ninja theory made games with great story, music and art". I will say "Well movie(s) have great music, story and art too". Ninja theory´s games gameplay are mediocre. Their philopshy is after all "Story and art > Gameplay".
 
^Wow...that made a lotta sense... *tips hat* ;)
LordOfDarkness said:
All things considered, the title of this section in which this very thread is posted in is incorrect then. It's not really the fifth installment in the DMC Series, just as it isn't a Reboot (This much is clear to us now).
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I thought a new start (alternate universe or not) was a reboot?
 
Propably getting theory of Parallel Universe(or Alternate Universe) is their work behind drastical Chages that Dante getted.

I know how to use better AU thing,as Im writing some FanFics, some of them are good.
 
lorddemolatron said:
I know how to use better AU thing,as Im writing some FanFics, some of them are good.
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Oh, you write fanfics, huh... That must mean your opinion about alternate universes MUST be better than that of some professional writers who are part of making this game. Yeah, I can totally see that...

/sarcasm
 
Im making some fics, and If you not seen Im female :P, I still wait to explore this Parallel Universe, when game is out :)
 
Darin Rosu said:


I thought a new start (alternate universe or not) was a reboot?
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DmC is not a reboot of the Devil May Cry Series. The very fact that it separates itself from the DMC Universe by claiming to be an alternate or parallel Universe in itself proves this to us. Therefore considering that this is not a new start or the fifth installment in the DMC Series, but the first installment of the DmC Series, it is not a reboot. If it were a reboot or a remake, whatever you wish to call it, then it would be based on the DMC Universe with Capcom's Dante. This in all fairness and all honesty is Ninja Theory's alternate version to Capcom's Dante. This is not a reboot game or an origin story or anything of the like.
 
im not liking the idea since i rather there be one universe where it be the reboot or the other since having both would make the other one feel redundant..
 
Z218 said:
im not liking the idea since i rather there be one universe where it be the reboot or the other since having both would make the other one feel redundant..
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I'm not a big fan on there essentially being two games based on the same thing (As they sort of are in a sense). It doesn't really matter to me if the story is different and their game-play is different, this game is an alternate version of a game that already exists. I mean, it's okay to make different versions of games that already exist is what we're saying here. We could have alternate Universes of game titles all over the shop. I mean lets look at things for a second. A lot of these reboots/remakes have been starting to happen over the last few years or so now. And now something like this being okay and acceptable. I'm not a massive fan on there being reboots made in the first place, was never big on remakes. But now different takes/versions/perspectives on games that already exist. You could create an alternate version styled game for every game in existence, essentially. And if this gets seen as okay, we'll probably see more of this happening with other games. For me, I want focus on what I originally fell in love with and began to enjoy. Not to see which game company makes the best version. Or if anything it'll be a game company releasing two versions of the same game, and letting you pick which one you like the most so the game can't be deemed as a flop because you can pick which one you favor. Talk about trying to please the masses.
 
LordOfDarkness said:
DmC is not a reboot of the Devil May Cry Series. The very fact that it separates itself from the DMC Universe by claiming to be an alternate or parallel Universe in itself proves this to us. Therefore considering that this is not a new start or the fifth installment in the DMC Series, but the first installment of the DmC Series, it is not a reboot. If it were a reboot or a remake, whatever you wish to call it, then it would be based on the DMC Universe with Capcom's Dante. This in all fairness and all honesty is Ninja Theory's alternate version to Capcom's Dante. This is not a reboot game or an origin story or anything of the like.
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oh dammit, my head hurts...i hate being sick...just gonna nod an' agree atm...
 
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