Parallel Universe

[CoolDemon]

"Part of the ethos of a reboot or retelling of an origin story is to go back and find out why certain totems of a franchise exist,” Jones said, talking about Dante’s famously white hair. “We want to tell those elements of the story."

If they wanted to go and find out why Dante's hair (if we're talking about the same Dante) is white, then they can go to Sparda and see that his father's human form has white hair. And that explains why Dante has white hair. White hair as Ninja theory have said is not because of demonic powers.

So the way i see it - they aren't being clear about DmC and DMC relation because they are playing on using DMC to draw attention for DmC.

 

[darkslayer13]

they have been very clear about the relationship between Devil May Cry and DmC. DmC is an alternate universe of Devil May Cry. (different versions of the same characters. different backstory, different events, etc. )

in the original Devil May Cry universe Dante was born with white hair because of his father

in the DmC: Devil May Cry universe. Dante probably was not born with white hair and his hair might turn white because of the development of his powers (at least that seems like the direction they are going in. his hair could stay black the entire game or he could have natural white hair dyed black. we cannot be sure until the game comes out.)

 

[CoolDemon]

they have been very clear about the relationship between Devil May Cry and DmC. DmC is an alternate universe of Devil May Cry. (different versions of the same characters. different backstory, different events, etc. )

in the original Devil May Cry universe Dante was born with white hair because of his father

in the DmC: Devil May Cry universe. Dante probably was not born with white hair and his hair might turn white because of the development of his powers (at least that seems like the direction they are going in. his hair could stay black the entire game or he could have natural white hair dyed black. we cannot be sure until the game comes out.)

As time went by they became more clear. But this quote:

"Part of the ethos of a reboot or retelling of an origin story is to go back and find out why certain totems of a franchise exist,” Jones said, talking about Dante’s famously white hair. “We want to tell those elements of the story."

It's obvious Alex Jones is talking about telling to fans why Dante's hair is white. The reason for it. Though it's already known: His father's human form had white hair.

They was never clear in beginning or early on that DmC had nothing to do with DMC other than using DMC as template for DmC.

You want me to give you a clear setence?

Here goes:
"We have rebooted DmC and we will make a new story, a new Dante, new powers and we are only using DMC as template for DmC"

That....is being clear. Saying "This is a younger Dante" is not being clear. By saying that DmC main character i s a young Dante your making a connection to DMC Dante implying that it's the same character. When they clearly are not the same Dante.

I read a Gamer site where following setence was used about DmC Dante:
"DmC offers a new perspective on the main character Dante, where we will be able to play a younger version of him"

That site has misunderstood. DmC Dante is not DMC Dante. So Ninja theory and Capcom has not been clear about whole DmC from early on. And they don't dissolve any beliefs that DmC Dante is DMC Dante. They embrace that. And why shouldn't they it's good for business and their plan might be to discard DMC Dante and replace him for good with DmC Dante.

You may say DmC main character has demon powers, a sword, guns and name just like DMC Dante.
I willl say Nero has same hair, demon powers, a sword and guns just like Dante. And looks more similar to Dante than DmC main character (if we are gonna use similarity on basis of who is Dante or not).

The only difference is that Nero is Nero, and DmC main character is being proclaimed as DMC Dante and not as a "a Dante".

My point with bringing up Dante: is that if Capcom/Ninja theory don't clear up or correct that DmC Dante is another Dante (or Ninja theory's Dante) and not DMC Dante then how can then it be a parall universe ?

 

[Pale Rider]

My point with bringing up
Dante: is that if Capcom/Ninja theory don't clear up or correct
that DmC Dante is another
Dante (or Ninja theory's Dante)
and not DMC Dante then how
can then it be a parall
universe ?

Dude, they cleared that DmC Dante is not DMC Dante by saying DmC is a reboot of the franchise and is set in a parallel world. Is it that hard to understand?

Ok... you can say that there's hasn't been any official statement stating the difference but isn't it obvious. Do they really need to say that ?

And yes this is younger Dante - not younger DMC Dante but younger DmC Dante.

 

[wallenb]

NT have said that this game doesnt take place before or after the original dmc series, which was easy for me to know that DmC was going to be separate from the original.
When you say Nero is dante, i think your right and wrong because it was the lack of imagination on his design, but his personality did not match dante in dmc3, where they were basically the same age range. Nero was a very emotional character but dante was a more composed character with a infatuation with thrill seeking.
The reason why Dante is reffered to as Dante is because Dante is based on Dante. And since the time and place are not the same, the character of Dante could be whoever NT/Capcom want him to be.

 

[CoolDemon]

Dude, they cleared that DmC Dante is not DMC Dante by saying DmC is a reboot of the franchise and is set in a parallel world. Is it that hard to understand?

Ok... you can say that there's hasn't been any official statement stating the difference but isn't it obvious. Do they really need to say that ?

And yes this is younger Dante - not younger DMC Dante but younger DmC Dante.

It's obvious that it's a "a Dante" now. But my point is that they was never clear about that early on. And even now despite being a bit more clear by going out saying "It's a parallel universe" they still don't dare to say "This is a or another Dante".

For me it's not hard to understand. But obviously there are people and sites that think otherwise.
We have seen in DMC 1, 2, 3 and 4 Dante past his teenager years. So when they say "Younger Dante" they are talking about the same Dante. Why would it matter much to mention the age of DmC's character? And this was mentioned early on before they came out saying it's a parallel universe.

So in DmC it's not the same character, but when they talk about Dante in general they talk about it as if it's the same character.

Again i don't need to have it told, but they haven't been clear about it. And like i said it would be bad business for them to distance DmC character from Dante.

 

[Pale Rider]

For me it's not hard to
understand. But obviously
there are people and sites that
think otherwise.
We have seen in DMC 1, 2, 3 and
4 Dante past his teenager years. So when they say "Younger
Dante" they are talking about
the same Dante.

Now, as I see your last line, it says to me that for obvious reasons when they say Dante, they actually mean their Dante. I mean, they can't just say that this is, "Our younger Dante" or "NT's younger Dante". You get my point?

 

[CoolDemon]

But DmC Dante being Ninja theory's Dante. Why don't they just say that? What's wrong with saying "This Dante is our Dante"? Afterall it's their Dante...so OFC they can say it's our Dante. Because that's afterall the truth .

What obvious reasons are you thinking of?

 

[wallenb]

i think its obvious which dante is which. dont you?

 

[CoolDemon]

If y our gonna reply to me at least read what i have written...

For me it's not hard to understand. But obviously there are people and sites that think otherwise.

Again i don't need to have it told, but they haven't been clear about it. And like i said it would be bad business for them to distance DmC character from Dante.

Or is that to much to ask for?

 

[wallenb]

It isn't when the game is an alternative universe.

 

[CoolDemon]

It isn't when the game is an alternative universe.

But that's not my point.

My point is that if it's in a alternative universe. Why not be crystal clear and say "This is our version of DMC and we are using DMC as template", "DmC Dante is our (NT) Dante" etc

They was never clear about DmC because of marketing reasons. And even now they don't dare to distance the character of DmC and Dante.

They speak of DmC's character in light of DMC Dante. Again if it's a parallel universe what difference does it make?

 

[Pale Rider]

What obvious reasons are you
thinking of?

And here's where difference of opinions hops in.

You say that they have to be specific, infact very specific in what they say. They need to clarify everything, everytime, for instance, accordin' to you, they should, instead of saying just "younger Dante", say "NT Dante" or something like that. That's how you take it right ?? (Correct me if I'm wrong. Don't get flared up.)

Whereas, I don't think like that. If they said it's a reboot and is in parallel universe, it is enough for me to understand their Dante is their Dante. They don't need to specify themselves time and time again. And this is the OBVIOUS reason.

 

[Tony_Redgrave]

And here's where difference of opinions hops in.

You say that they have to be specific, infact very specific in what they say. They need to clarify everything, everytime, for instance, accordin' to you, they should, instead of saying just "younger Dante", say "NT Dante" or something like that. That's how you take it right ?? (Correct me if I'm wrong. Don't get flared up.)

Whereas, I don't think like that. If they said it's a reboot and is in parallel universe, it is enough for me to understand their Dante is their Dante. They don't need to specify themselves time and time again. And this is the OBVIOUS reason.

Very true. In their case, they would only need to clarify if they wanted to talk about the old Dante.

 

[CoolDemon]

I looked back at the interview and Alex Jones did mention reboot. So i was wrong about that. But quite honestly trying to understand what they talk about is like trying to understand what Sarah Palin talking about during a interview.

"Going back to the creation myth of Dante...like alot of meaningful templates" - What's that supposed to mean?

I think the same as you D I but i didn't catch that Alex Jones said reboot earlier on in the interview.

 

[wallenb]

^^ i think he's saying Dante's story from dmc1 was very good

 

[Asmodaius]

Well, it is not JUST 100% NT's Dante. Capcom was part of the character development process as well.

 

[berto]

From what I've read NT's original concepts for Dante were much, much closer to the original but Capcom demanded a far more dramatic take on the character. Capcom saw saw the current design on the wall and said "that one!" and that's why Dante now looks like he does.

 

[Asmodaius]

From what I've read NT's original concepts for Dante were much, much closer to the original but Capcom demanded a far more dramatic take on the character. Capcom saw saw the current design on the wall and said "that one!" and that's why Dante now looks like he does.

Exactly.
From what we've heard in interviews, Capcom wanted NT to go FAR away from the original Dante design and then they slowly worked their way closer to the original design until they were happy with the result.

 

[V's patron]

There actualy was an a light novel that came out with dmc2 that had Dante traveling to a alternate timeline where Vergil was good and fighting mounds in Dante's stead.
Would you want the two universes to meet up?