Nero's origins - What do you think?

[Lionheart]

Again, we know Nero is ftom a bloodline of Sparda's, just not DIRECTLY the same as the twins, as stated by the DIRECTOR. Combined with the fact there are stories of a set of twins sired by Sparda in the legends, that confirms that Eva was not Sparda's only mortal lover, and there are other bloodlines to consider as Nero's origins.

What did this director state? When this thread was started, nothing was said about Nero being part of Sparda's bloodline. A set of twins? Yeah, that means Dante and Vergil. They don't literally mean 'two sets of twins'. If they said that, there would be four twins instead of two.

Where do you get all this from? Nobody in this entire thread has said anything like you have now, so I want to know what changed over the past year or so.

 

[Dante Redgrave]

...one of the major comments said by Kobayashi back when DMC4 was unveiled was that Nero was not directly related to Dante and Vergil. Also, DMC3:SE referenced an old legend of Sparda fathering twins, which cannot be Dante and Vergil since they were 19 at the time by word of the director Itsuno.

This stuff has been around the next for years.

 

[meg5493]

...one of the major comments said by Kobayashi back when DMC4 was unveiled was that Nero was not directly related to Dante and Vergil. Also, DMC3:SE referenced an old legend of Sparda fathering twins, which cannot be Dante and Vergil since they were 19 at the time by word of the director Itsuno.

This stuff has been around the next for years.

What about Modeus and Bael?

 

[Dante Redgrave]

Modeus and Bael were Sparda's students, the anime actually specified that. That didn't explain why Manhouse designed Bael to look a lot like Vergil...

 

[meg5493]

I know that buuut i wouldn't mind more Modeus

 

[Lionheart]

...one of the major comments said by Kobayashi back when DMC4 was unveiled was that Nero was not directly related to Dante and Vergil. Also, DMC3:SE referenced an old legend of Sparda fathering twins, which cannot be Dante and Vergil since they were 19 at the time by word of the director Itsuno.

This stuff has been around the next for years.

How odd, then, that I can't find a single article even referring to those alleged statements. Are you sure you didn't get this information second-hand? It's very easy for people to pass on stories that were simply made up.

For the time being, unless you can provide me with a source, I cannot accept your comment as fact.

 

[Dante Redgrave]

the twins being 19 in DMC3 is common knowledge in the comminity, Itsuno said it during a production interview. And Kobayashi's comments in 2006 after teh teaser trailer released was the source of a lot of questions as to who Nero was if he wasn't releated directly to the twins. There should be archives somewhere of those production interviews and comments.

 

[Lionheart]

The twins being 19 has nothing to do with this, I'd say. This is what you said:
Again, we know Nero is ftom a bloodline of Sparda's, just not DIRECTLY the same as the twins, as stated by the DIRECTOR. Combined with the fact there are stories of a set of twins sired by Sparda in the legends, that confirms that Eva was not Sparda's only mortal lover, and there are other bloodlines to consider as Nero's origins.

We don't know anything about Nero other than that he ''carries the blood of Sparda'' and that he's ''a descendant of Sparda's blood''. I'm sure there must be some way to find the info you alluded to. If not, you probably got the information second-hand from somebody who just liked to theorize.

 

[Dante Redgrave]

No, I saw it in an interview from 2006 shortly after the first DMC4 teaser came out, check around that time from, that may be why you're not finding the comments that Nero was not directly related to Dante or Vergil.

 

[Valcorn]

That's 2 years before the game came out, look at DmC in 2010, thus such comment is outdated.

 

[Lionheart]

That's 2 years before the game came out, look at DmC in 2010, thus such comment is outdated.

I see your point. Indeed, it may have been the initial plan to make Nero an indirect descendant of Sparda, but since it was a while before the game was released, that idea may have been abandoned.

 

[Valcorn]

So all in all, we should take only close-to and post-release statements regarding DMC4 interviews. Initially, Nero indeed wasn't related to Sparda at all, the only reason he had white hair and blue eyes was to make it easy for fans to get used to him since he is similar to Dante in appearance. But then they decided otherwise and turned it into a yet-to-be-explained plot about his origins as a relative of Sparda's.

 

[Lionheart]

So all in all, we should take only close-to and post-release statements regarding DMC4 interviews. Initially, Nero indeed wasn't related to Sparda at all, the only reason he had white hair and blue eyes was to make it easy for fans to get used to him since he is similar to Dante in appearance. But then they decided otherwise and turned it into a yet-to-be-explained plot about his origins as a relative of Sparda's.

I don't know about that. I never heard confirmation that Nero wasn't related to Sparda. Besides, it just seems like a very odd idea to have. To make some random human play the lead role in DMC4? Not likely. I think the original idea was always to make Nero half human half demon, or at least a quarter demon, so that they could create a plot similar to that of Vergil and Sparda; Nero embracing his demonic side while staying human as well, whereas Vergil decided to follow the demonic path and Sparda followed the human path. Nero is put in between. If he were just a human, there wouldn't be much of a plot left.

 

[Valcorn]

No, he always was partially demon, but completely unrelated to Sparda at first, that came later in development. The only reason for his eyes and hair was so people could get used to him fast.

 

[Dante Redgrave]

Exact wording was "not directly related to Dante or Vergil", that statement did not preclude connected to Sparda, which implicated a seperate bloodline.

 

[Valcorn]

He would still share some blood with them as a relative of a relative of Sparda's.

 

[Dante Redgrave]

Directly related means child of, sibling, uncle/nephew, or close cousin. that means the idea was liklely from some seperate older bloodline from some other child of Sparda's

 

[Kishido]

Well hope, if they will go back to the old timeline, that Capcom will get rid of him and simply forget 4... Which sadly won't happen... I think they just simply explain the WHOLE story about him in the next game and not simply ignore it and just give some unanswered questions

If he is Vergil's son, why is arm is speaking the same as Vergil... Why he got an devil arm that thing possesed him. Where are his own devil powers and so on.

Well Vergil should step in, cut his head off, Kyrie should fall in love with Vergil, if not cut her as well, and everything is fine

 

[Dante Redgrave]

Nero never said the ARM spoke to him, he said that when his arm began to change, he heard a voice, which was supposed to be his own soul crying for more power to protect Kyrie, as heavily implied by his words to Agnus as he was Triggering that even if he was becoming a demon(HINT!), he would endure it and anything for Kyrie.

 

[Kishido]

Still strange that it is exactly the same words as Vergil's.