DmC Review by Angry Joe

[Chancey289]

I feel as if tongue in cheek and over the top comedy is completely lost on you. I'm not denying that Bayonetta is sexualised, but to call it a porn game is very far fetched.


Swearing and sex aren't mature, it's the equivalent of a kid trying to be mature. I like how you point out how much you don't care about sex but you complain when Bayonetta is sexualised. I've played through the entire game as well and yes, it does. Every boss fight but maybe Vergil involves Dante just throwing out a string of swear words and the demons replying back likewise. It's even more hilarious because the walls even swear at you.

The difference between Bayonetta and DmC's maturity is again, DmC is using these juvenile concepts to try and be more mature while Bayonetta is using it to just be fun and juvenile.

I'm rather shameless so I don't have a problem with sexual themes but Bayonetta is still no less freaking stupid or perverted trying to be ironic in its content. You're giving Bayonetta of all games some stupid freaking excuse as well. Look, like I said, this stuff doesn't bother me in the slightest but Bayonetta was borderline pornography and it's freaking stupid in the process in being ridiculous as it is. Reach the obvious conclusion and make a full blown hentai game P* if you're going to push this out. DmC doesn't use the more raunchy moments to such a ridiculous extent. I played the entire game and everything for the most part that happens is in context to the tale being told. It's a world which co-exist with demons from hell, I expect it to not be kid friendly. You want to talk so much sh!t about DmC but never seem to want to acknowledge how freaking stupid the original games were which you just give the excuse as being intentional. You know I can make fun of every single game including DmC but to sit there and say the reboot in this department does it any worse that the previous games is just silly. It's not the best set up or story ever made but it is no less any freaking stupid the original games can get now is it? The way the story is told is something that is definitely stronger because an actual emphasis on it was put in to it. Whether or not people think it's better is subjective but it sure as hell isn't worst.

 

[Sieghart]

lol my brain hurts. From an Angryreview to an Angrymob.

But i think we can all agree that DmC is not a bad game. Seriously, if anybody says that DMC 2 is better than DmC i'll personally murder you :devil:
****, i really want to play it now so i can talk about it for real.

 

[Slacri]

I'm rather shameless so I don't have a problem with sexual themes but Bayonetta is still no less freaking stupid or perverted trying to be ironic in its content. You're giving Bayonetta of all games some stupid freaking excuse as well.

But you complained that it was pornographic and demeaned it for being a "porn" game, when it's nothing like that. There are literal porn games and Bayonetta is hardly one of them. There's nothing ironic about it, irony is attempting to make some sort of statement. Being over the top is just being over the top for fun.

Look, like I said, this stuff doesn't bother me in the slightest but Bayonetta was borderline pornography and it's freaking stupid in the process in being ridiculous as it is. Reach the obvious conclusion and make a full blown hentai game

I don't see why you have trouble with a game that sexualizes a character and a full blown pornographic game.

. DmC doesn't use the more raunchy moments to such a ridiculous extent. I played the entire game and everything for the most part that happens is in context to the tale being told. It's a world which co-exist with demons from hell, I expect it to not be kid friendly.

I don't think you even know what raunchy is if that's what you're claiming Bayonetta is. I never said it was kid friendly, I said it was trying to be juvenile in an attempt to be mature but falling flat on its face.

You want to talk so much sh!t about DmC but never seem to want to acknowledge how freaking stupid the original games were which you just give the excuse as being intentional.

Are you even reading my posts at this point? I've acknowledged many a time how stupid and over the top it is, and yes it is intentional. You're essentially complaining that your gestapo soup is cold.

You know I can make fun of every single game including DmC but to sit there and say the reboot in this department does it any worse that the previous games is just silly. It's not the best set up or story ever made but it is no less any freaking stupid the original games can get now is it? The way the story is told is something that is definitely stronger because an actual emphasis on it was put in to it. Whether or not people think it's better is subjective but it sure as hell isn't worst.

The fact that there's an emphasis on story makes it better, even though the story is awful? What sense does that even make? If anything, putting more emphasis on a bad story is even worse. Honestly I'd put the story on par with DMC1. It's of course better than DMC2.

 

[EvilX-81]

It's very hamfisted with the "government is manipulating us with the media" theme. That's the subtext I'm talking about, although it isn't subtle.
Even the whole ending They Live scene has the whole #DEMONS WE HAVE AWOKEN stuff.

That's not subtext, that's Tam drawing from, again, all the conspiracy theories he could draw from. Don't forget he also has the bankers ruling the world and the "poisoning drinks" conspiracy theory. Are you saying those are subtext too on the government keeping us far and dumb and enslaved to working for them? Because even ignoring the invisible demons, this is Alex Jones-level ridiculousness.

Are you implying that Superman comics are immature? While there are many lighthearted Superman stories there are a great deal of them that tackle more mature subjects and themes, far more elegantly than DmC could hope to accomplish.

DmC isn't trying to *tackle* subjects, they're backdrop for their "ultimate demon conspiracy" story. Also, YMMV on Superman as there's prolly tens of thousands of comics out there and still coming, but for me, when it tries to be a certain level of mature, the stories tend to suck rather hard. Even then, I don't take them as stories to learn anything from or anything like that, but at most, stories about "What Would Superman Do".

 

[Dominus]

You don't understand Metal Gear Solid like I do and I'm a bigger Metal Gear than I am DMC fan. Metal Gear that hardly involves Kojima is already step one of failure. Using a character no one really likes is step 2. Becoming a game that literally seems to pay no homage at all to it's roots is step 3. DmC gives still a devil may cry experience better than 2 and 4 no doubt and the people against it are not justified in the grief they give it. Metal Gear fans like myself have every right to not be happy with some stupid hack n slash game made by some company who always puts out games that never excel the decent mark and doesn't even involve the person who understands Metal Gear the most.

You're sounding just as bad as the DMC fans you are ridiculing. DMC4 has the best combat out of the series why would that not be a good DMC experience. Let alone YOU do not speak for the MGS fans so how can you claim that Raiden is a character no one likes, OR that MGS fans wouldn't want a H&S game with a cyborg ninja. I remember playing MGS2 when it came out and wanted a MG action game with Raiden once I got the sword. Does this make me not a "true" fan?????

 

[Chancey289]

It's very hamfisted with the "government is manipulating us with the media" theme. That's the subtext I'm talking about, although it isn't subtle.
Even the whole ending They Live scene has the whole #DEMONS WE HAVE AWOKEN stuff.



Are you implying that Superman comics are immature? While there are many lighthearted Superman stories there are a great deal of them that tackle more mature subjects and themes, far more elegantly than DmC could hope to accomplish.

It's playing as a social satire to the whole thing like crappy movies like They Live and others do with this particular concept. It isn't trying to past some message of anarchic influence and is just poking fun at it all. You want to act like Devil May Cry's stuff was meant to be intentionally cheesy where when I see such an exaggeration of all these things it looks to poke fun at, I guess it's no less intentional also as you claim the previous games do in your eyes now is it? If anything the quite bloated satire of the subjects make this all more intentional to be a satire than the previous games supposedly did. (I still just stand by that Capcom sucks at story telling. Just look at their games and they are never golden in that department) Gives me a reason to rip through a world of demons and Limbo was pretty damn cool and interesting. The set up of the world knowing the existence of demons actually gives a reason to open up a business like Devil May Cry and people willing to take up a job being demon exterminators can become quite the normal occupation. Also opening the doors for other characters to appear. That's where I see the potential in DmC. To give this story that always had this flip floppity canon actually a distinctive and solid identity.

 

[Slacri]

That's not subtext, that's Tam drawing from, again, all the conspiracy theories he could draw from.

Define subtext:
"An underlying and often distinct theme in a piece of writing or conversation"
Are you seriously going to tell me that the government controlling the wold through the media isn't a theme of the game?

Don't forget he also has the bankers ruling the world and the "poisoning drinks" conspiracy theory. Are you saying those are subtext too on the government keeping us far and dumb and enslaved to working for them? Because even ignoring the invisible demons, this is Alex Jones-level ridiculousness.

Yes, the sub text being that the government is controlling the world through the media and manipulation. Yeah, it's stupid but it takes it seriously. That's the problem.

DmC isn't trying to *tackle* subjects, they're backdrop for their "ultimate demon conspiracy" story. Also, YMMV on Superman as there's prolly tens of thousands of comics out there and still coming, but for me, when it tries to be a certain level of mature, the stories tend to suck rather hard.

Except that it does. It does it in at poor way though. Also, Superman Red Son, All-Star Superman ( although more lighthearted at points ), Whatever Happened to the Man of Tomorrow?, For the Man Who Had Everything etc. He has some mature and well done stories.

 

[Slacri]

It's playing as a social satire to the whole thing like crappy movies like They Live and others do with this particular concept. It isn't trying to past some message of anarchic influence and is just poking fun at it all.

Ripping something off is not a satire. Poking fun? Yes, that ending Twitter part just had me in tears at all the satire. That wasn't satire, that was the game actually taking it seriously.

You want to act like Devil May Cry's stuff was meant to be intentionally cheesy where when I see such an exaggeration of all these things it looks to poke fun at, I guess it's no less intentional also as you claim the previous games do in your eyes now is it?

Jesus Christ, how can you honestly look at these scenes and tell me they're not intentionally cheesy?

I'm honestly shocked, you see the difference is that DMC3 doesn't do this and then try to have hamfisted political satire. Ninja Theory themselves have claimed it is their goal to elevate games to the levels of art that cinema and novels are on.

If anything the quite bloated satire of the subjects make this all more intentional to be a satire than the previous games supposedly did. (I still just stand by that Capcom sucks at story telling. Just look at their games and they are never golden in that department) Gives me a reason to rip through a world of demons and Limbo was pretty damn cool and interesting. The set up of the world knowing the existence of demons actually gives a reason to open up a business like Devil May Cry and people willing to take up a job being demon exterminators can become quite the normal occupation. Also opening the doors for other characters to appear. That's where I see the potential in DmC. To give this story that always had this flip floppity canon actually a distinctive and solid identity.

You just said the game didn't take itself seriously with its political satire, and now you're saying that the game is better because it's more realistic and gives you a motivation? I am honestly shocked how you can think some political joking is to be taken less seriously than the previous games.

 

[EvilX-81]

Define subtext:
"An underlying and often distinct theme in a piece of writing or conversation"
Are you seriously going to tell me that the government controlling the wold through the media isn't a theme of the game?

That's the result of what happens when you use real world conspiracy theories in entertainment.

Yes, the sub text being that the government is controlling the world through the media and manipulation. Yeah, it's stupid but it takes it seriously. That's the problem.

Through television, bank debt, POISONED DRINKS.

And even then, not so much. Or as much as being insinuated.

"F*** YOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU!!"

"AND WE'LL DO LIVE!!!"

And so forth.

Except that it does.

You think it does give us an answer to bank debt, poisoned drinks and mind control media? They Live played a lot straighter than this, the movie that inspired the story of this game, but met with half the flak.

Also, Superman Red Son, All-Star Superman ( although more lighthearted at points ), Whatever Happened to the Man of Tomorrow?, For the Man Who Had Everything etc. He has some mature and well done stories.

Not saying there are gems out there. But then there are times when Supes is ready to let his wife die because he wouldn't kill to save her (fortunately she lives). Or when he acts like a dopey schoolboy to a woman who's sexually hitting on him. And then around half of the Chuck Austen run. YMMV, there are just some questions Superman shouldn't be answering.

 

[Slacri]

That's the result of what happens when you use real world conspiracy theories in entertainment.

The fact that it results in that being your subtext? Well, yes.

Through television, bank debt, POISONED DRINKS.

And even then, not so much. Or as much as being insinuated.

Yes, and it was trying to set up a legitimate conspiracy, not a tongue in cheek one.

"F*** YOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU!!"

That's just awful dialogue in the games attempt to be mature.

"AND WE'LL DO LIVE!!!"

And so forth.

And that just shows that they're clearly referencing Bill 'O Reily as if it wasn't clear enough.

You think it does give us an answer to bank debt, poisoned drinks and mind control media? They Live played a lot straighter than this, the movie that inspired the story of this game, but met with half the flak.

We're not talking about They Live's quality here. The game creators and staff themselves have literally said they want to bring games to the level of cinema and movies, called the game "Shakespearean" and Ninja Theory was apparently hired on this game due to their amazing writing and you're claiming this is intentionally a joke?

Oh yes, what a high-larius scene.

Not saying there are gems out there. But then there are times when Supes is ready to let his wife die because he wouldn't kill to save her (fortunately she lives). Or when he acts like a dopey schoolboy to a woman who's sexually hitting on him. And then around half of the Chuck Austen run. YMMV, there are just some questions Superman shouldn't be answering.

Yes, there's bad Superman comics and good ones. This hardly means Superman comics are immature as a whole or that they don't have many mature stories that are great.

 

[Chancey289]

But you complained that it was pornographic and demeaned it for being a "porn" game, when it's nothing like that. There are literal porn games and Bayonetta is hardly one of them. There's nothing ironic about it, irony is attempting to make some sort of statement. Being over the top is just being over the top for fun. I don't see why you have trouble with a game that sexualizes a character and a full blown pornographic game. I don't think you even know what raunchy is if that's what you're claiming Bayonetta is. I never said it was kid friendly, I said it was trying to be juvenile in an attempt to be mature but falling flat on its face. Are you even reading my posts at this point? I've acknowledged many a time how stupid and over the top it is, and yes it is intentional. You're essentially complaining that your gestapo soup is cold.
The fact that there's an emphasis on story makes it better, even though the story is awful? What sense does that even make? If anything, putting more emphasis on a bad story is even worse. Honestly I'd put the story on par with DMC1. It's of course better than DMC2.

Oh my god. You know you give Devil May Cry the "intentional" excuse where to an extent it isn't because Capcom just SUCKS AT STORY TELLING. They always have. Resident Evil is a shining example of how freaking stupid they are when you have villains who think the logic solution to covering up an minor intelligence leak is to start a zombie apocalypse or release monsters on to the public making the villains from RE and Umbrella Corporation look like some of the stupidest villains in fictional history. Devil May Cry is no less dumb even if you think it's supposedly intentional about everything. Dante was dumb. Vergil was DUMB. Trish was dumb. Mundus was dumb. Nero dumb and pointless. DMC just starts to reek of very uninteresting and generic anime trends and it couldn't really get anymore cliche if it tried. The gameplay has always kept it afloat but that stagnation started to show and this series needed to do something different.

Dante just seems like a more believable character this time around and all the stupid cheesy **** he pulled wasn't entertaining but just freaking stupid. I never thought he was funny or witty. I always thought he was a just a dork. He was the guy I played as and that's about it to me. The 1st game was probably the best we've seen of him because I got the sense he was cocky but also he was more subtle. In 2 he didn't have a personality at all and was evidently a mute. 3 was just on the verge of annoyance and was trying way too hard to be cool. He didn't act 19. I wasn't retarded when I was 19. 4 Dante just took a back seat to Nero who basically tried to be like Dante I guess in just about every way. Even in appearance and he was just pointless. I'm not wanting to slap Dante so hard his head spins for being just do goddamn dumb. He's just like a normal guy I expect someone like Dante to be. He isn't just some cartoon stereotype. I don't think stupid **** even if it's intentional funny. It's still stupid.(With the exception of films like The Room for being so bad it's good) Comedy to me is something like Clerks, Cheech and Chong, Half Baked, The Big Lebowski, Animal House etc. You know, with an actual comedic brain behind it. Any attempt on Devil May Cry trying to be witty or somehow intentionally stupid comes off as just that, stupid.

DmC doesn't have the best story in the world but by all means it isn't the worst and not as bad as you make it out to be. Especially compared to every other stupid f*cking plot the original games had. We're talking about a series that was so uninteresting and generic to begin with you honestly can't go anywhere but up with it. I will not save DMC grief because it's retarded as all hell and I only loved it so much because it was a fun game to play.I will rip all the games to shreds because it doesn't matter to me probably as much as it does to you. Like I said, DmC having the better story is all about personal opinion but one thing is for certain, it sure isn't any worst than the previous games at all.

The very first Devil May Cry is still my personal favorite out of them all but I enjoyed DmC definitely alot more than DMC 2 and 4 no doubt. I hated 2 and 4. 4 being the prime example of a series pushed through the ringer after being shaken down for sequels and proved to me Capcom was all out of ideas. It was the one of the worst games I played that year.

 

[Slacri]

Oh my god. You know you give Devil May Cry the "intentional" excuse where to an extent it isn't because Capcom just SUCKS AT STORY TELLING. They always have. Resident Evil is a shining example of how freaking stupid they are when you have villains who think the logic solution to covering up an minor intelligence leak is to start a zombie apocalypse or release monsters on to the public making the villains from RE and Umbrella Corporation look like some of the stupidest villains in fictional history. Devil May Cry is no less dumb even if you think it's supposedly intentional about everything. Dante was dumb. Vergil was DUMB. Trish was dumb. Mundus was dumb. Nero dumb and pointless. DMC just starts to reek of very uninteresting and generic anime trends and it couldn't really get anymore cliche if it tried. The gameplay has always kept it afloat but that stagnation started to show and this series needed to do something different.

Why do you just keep repeating the same things I've refuted? I just gave you 4 videos clearly showing the tongue in cheek tone of DMC3 and all you're doing now is burying your head in the sand.

Dante just seems like a more believable character this time around and all the stupid cheesy **** he pulled wasn't entertaining but just freaking stupid. I never thought he was funny or witty. I always thought he was a just a dork. He was the guy I played as and that's about it to me. The 1st game was probably the best we've seen of him because I got the sense he was cocky but also he was more subtle. In 2 he didn't have a personality at all and was evidently a mute. 3 was just on the verge of annoyance and was trying way too hard to be cool. He didn't act 19. I wasn't retarded when I was 19. 4 Dante just took a back seat to Nero who basically tried to be like Dante I guess in just about every way. Even in appearance and he was just pointless. I'm not wanting to slap Dante so hard his head spins for being just do goddamn dumb. He's just like a normal guy I expect someone like Dante to be. He isn't just some cartoon stereotype. I don't think stupid **** even if it's intentional funny. It's still stupid.(With the exception of films like The Room for being so bad it's good) Comedy to me is something like Clerks, Cheech and Chong, Half Baked, The Big Lebowski, Animal House etc. You know, with an actual comedic brain behind it. Any attempt on Devil May Cry trying to be witty or somehow intentionally stupid comes off as just that, stupid.

Well that's all and well if you didn't find it witty or funny, don't try to pretend it wasn't intentional though. Nobody is claiming Dante has depth here but you trying to strawman me. Ironically Dante in DmC is 27 and acts even more immature,

DmC doesn't have the best story in the world but by all means it isn't the worst and not as bad as you make it out to be. Especially compared to every other stupid f*cking plot the original games had. We're talking about a series that was so uninteresting and generic to begin with you honestly can't go anywhere but up with it. I will not save DMC grief because it's retarded as all hell and I only loved it so much because it was a fun game to play.I will rip all the games to shreds because it doesn't matter to me probably as much as it does to you. Like I said, DmC having the better story is all about personal opinion but one thing is for certain, it sure isn't any worst than the previous games at all.

Yes it does have that bad of a story. Yes the old plots were stupid but they knew it and ran with it. How many times do I have to say this and link videos clearly showing it before you get it?

The very first Devil May Cry is still my personal favorite out of them all but I enjoyed DmC definitely alot more than DMC 2 and 4 no doubt. I hated 2 and 4. 4 being the prime example of a series pushed through the ringer after being shaken down for sequels and proved to me Capcom was all out of ideas. It was the one of the worst games I played that year.

DMC4 has the best combat of the entire series though. And that's the core of the game.

 

[EvilX-81]

The fact that it results in that being your subtext? Well, yes.

They COME with subtext prepackaged. Doesn't mean that's the intended point, anymore than They Live's or The Matrix.

Yes, and it was trying to set up a legitimate conspiracy, not a tongue in cheek one

.......You're saying NT believes this ****.

That's just awful dialogue in the games attempt to be mature

And that just shows that they're clearly referencing Bill 'O Reily as if it wasn't clear enough

And basically shoots a hole in your "being mature!" argument.

We're not talking about They Live's quality here. The game creators and staff themselves have literally said they want to bring games to the level of cinema and movies, called the game "Shakespearean" and Ninja Theory was apparently hired on this game due to their amazing writing and you're claiming this is intentionally a joke?

I didn't say a joke, it's a part of the backdrop from the story. And if they were trying to be *serious*, why would they write that dialogue?

Also, Shakespearean theme =/= Shakespearean quality. As in having elements.

Oh yes, what a high-larius scene.

So, um, what exactly are you trying to prove by posting one serious scene out of the game? Do all the other less serious scenes suddenly mean nothing?

Yes, there's bad Superman comics and good ones. This hardly means Superman comics are immature as a whole or that they don't have many mature stories that are great.

Whatever you say, pal.

 

[Slacri]

They COME with subtext prepackaged. Doesn't mean that's the intended point, anymore than They Live's or The Matrix.

But that was the point of They Live and The Matrix.


.

......You're saying NT believes this ****.

What? They've openly said they're trying to make the story more serious and you're just saying they don't believe their own words now? Seriously, you're arguing with NT basically siding with me on this now.

And basically shoots a hole in your "being mature!" argument.

No it doesn't, they're trying to have poorly done political subtext.

I didn't say a joke, it's a part of the backdrop from the story. And if they were trying to be *serious*, why would they write that dialogue?

Because they're awful writers.

Also, Shakespearean theme =/= Shakespearean quality. As in having elements.

So this doesn't coincide with them talking about how they want to raise the games do high levels up art? Seriously?

So, um, what exactly are you trying to prove by posting one serious scene out of the game? Do all the other less serious scenes suddenly mean nothing and I'm

Because it shows how off kilter this game is. It has a super serious and tense scene like this and then according to you is played as comedic. So either way it's either poorly written or just an uneven tone.

Whatever you say, pal.

I kind of doubt you've read any of the comics I've listed.

 

[Chancey289]

You're sounding just as bad as the DMC fans you are ridiculing. DMC4 has the best combat out of the series why would that not be a good DMC experience. Let alone YOU do not speak for the MGS fans so how can you claim that Raiden is a character no one likes, OR that MGS fans wouldn't want a H&S game with a cyborg ninja. I remember playing MGS2 when it came out and wanted a MG action game with Raiden once I got the sword. Does this make me not a "true" fan?????

I fell in love with Metal Gear for Metal Gear reasons and that swordplay in MGS 2 wasn't even that fun. I love what was in the title, Tactical Espionage Action. You want to play and hack n slash game then go elsewhere because that's not the true heart of Metal Gear. I'm not saying I'm the voice of the fandom but Raiden still isn't well liked and is almost like a running joke.

I'll throw you a bone here, Raiden, even though I think is retarded and don't like one bit, is still actually a pretty well developed character like every other character in that franchise. But it's ultimately how this dude has always been presented he's never developed a fanbase you supposedly think he has. In MGS 2 no one wanted to be stuck with the whiny little boy band reject that was honestly just totally unlikable and annoying acting like he can take the place of Snake who is a hell of alot more fun. Then in MGS 4 he shows up turning from some whiny brat to some emo guy now supposedly looking to take the place of Gray Fox again who was alot cooler than him. I don't care if you can jump around and slash up Gekkos then getting into a rather homoerotic fight with Vamp you still are Raiden and honestly don't belong here. It's like a guy showing up to a party who made a terrible impression the first time around being so dumb we don't care if he tries to act like he's really not that bad, he's still just a poser and no one wants to hang out with the guy still. Adding some title like Lightning Bolt Action is freaking retarded and this isn't what Metal Gear is about. I know what a spinoff is but it's really a Metal Gear title in name alone and made by a company who really isn't all that great because just about everything they push out is only decent. Never great. There's some talent at that company but the people who did Viewtiful Joe should take their skills elsewhere because this company feels like it's just fine to settle for the lowest common denominator. Rising seriously just looks like another mediocre title by them with some very repetitive looking gameplay.

 

[EvilX-81]

But that was the point of They Live and The Matrix.

The point was not for people to actually believe any of that crap in The Matrix or They Live, maybe only with a grain of salt.

. What? They've openly said they're trying to make the story more serious and you're just saying they don't believe their own words now? Seriously, you're arguing with NT basically siding with me on this now.

..... Just to be as clear as possible, you are saying that Tameem believes in poisoned drinks, controlled media, and banker debt. Because they're writing a "serious" story. Are you saying that a person couldn't for instance, write a "serious" story about vampires and werewolves living in secret to the real world without the writer actually believing this? Are you saying that "serious" = "real"?

No it doesn't, they're trying to have poorly done political subtext.

Because demons shouting curses at you screams serious business.

Because they're awful writers

I'm definitely beginning to think you're just trolling. Or too prideful to give up an obvious point. Though if would make sense if you actually believe NT believes any of the conspiracy **** in this game.

So this doesn't coincide with them talking about how they want to raise the games do high levels up art? Seriously

http://devilmaycry.org/community/threads/which-do-you-think-is-more-shakespearean-dmc-or-dmc.13379/
Basically covers the Shakespeare quote.

And I wouldn't be surprised if they want to "raise up games to levels of art". It's the fad half the game industry and it's critics have at the moment. Though I wouldn't mind having a direct quote if possible.

Because it shows how off kilter this game is. It has a super serious and tense scene like this and then according to you is played as comedic. So either way it's either poorly written or just an uneven tone.

This basically sounds like an argument against having any comedic elements in a game. All or nothing, instead of percentages. I can take the exchange scene as serious, while not so much about fighting a stand-in for Bill'O and cracking jokes about having a bigger dick.

I kind of doubt you've read any of the comics I've listed.

Moot point; you're pointing to 4 of most critically acclaimed Superman comics as the standard, in a field of probably 10's thousands at this point.

 

[MedicoreR]

Here's what you've said.

"A no story, 10 missions, 10 backward, 2 songs, 4 hours lenght, 3 weapons . . . "
After that, you switched to: "what songs played while Nero fight aganist his casual enemies?"

You originally said TWO songs.

Wow what an ***** you are..
Here's what i've said actually

This is the answer i want.
You are saying ''RE6 is a good game but a terrible RE game.'' also you are the side of ''DmC is a good game but a terrible DMC game''

Capcom did the RE6 and they couldnt satisfy you, and i believe you feel the same way with Dragons Dogma too.
How come do you think they would do better while we have a training mode game DMC4?
A no story, 10 missions, 10 backward, 2 songs, 4 hours lenght, 3 weapons (and a 1 drum weapon just to satisfy your guitar weapon longing from DMC3) game?

OMG, now im ****ed
Obviously im talking about ''what would happen if Capcom did DmC'' Im also talking about a new weapon.

Then he said :

Well the game has a lot more than 2 songs.

He thought i was talking about DMC4 , i acceptted the challange and said

omg are you serious?
what songs played while Nero fight aganist his casual enemies?
If you write 2 songs, im done

Now check his unbelievable REPLY

Those must be some really long songs to take up 3 discs and somehow be split into 96 different tracks.
http://www.amazon.com/Devil-May-Cry-Original-Soundtrack/dp/B001EWINLQ

What did i ask? What did he answer?

@Slacri

Read this carefully
Those tracks you wrote (which i have it on my computer right now) are not songs, they are fillings.
You know difference between songs and filling orchestras, right?

Now, i told you WRITE 2 SONGS while NERO fight aganist CASUAL ENEMIES (not bosses, not cutscenes, while in combat)
If you can write 1 other song except THE TIME HAS COME, im done.
If you cant, you are done.

Am i clear enough?

Again he posted the same tracks as a reply..
He doesnt even read what wrote.

Now you CHEASERTECH guy, cutting my post ?Those are the post that i wrote.
If you can write 2 SONGS while Nero fights with casual enemies (not the music of Dmc4 logo appear, not the hall stage ambient, not talking about bosses, im talking about ENEMIES)
If you can write, then im an idiot.
If you cant, then you are an idiot.
Fanboys...

 

[Chancey289]

Ripping something off is not a satire. Poking fun? Yes, that ending Twitter part just had me in tears at all the satire. That wasn't satire, that was the game actually taking it seriously.
Jesus Christ, how can you honestly look at these scenes and tell me they're not intentionally cheesy?

I'm honestly shocked, you see the difference is that DMC3 doesn't do this and then try to have hamfisted political satire. Ninja Theory themselves have claimed it is their goal to elevate games to the levels of art that cinema and novels are on.



You just said the game didn't take itself seriously with its political satire, and now you're saying that the game is better because it's more realistic and gives you a motivation? I am honestly shocked how you can think some political joking is to be taken less seriously than the previous games.

I think it's you who takes DmC too seriously. I don't take DMC seriously as I make fun of how stupid it is more than the fanboys who act like it's taboo. I make fun of just about anything though. The difference is is that DMC never shows one ounce of brain behind it in everything that when it's dry attempts at being funny or intetionally cheesy just comes off as just that, stupid. Nothing more, nothing less. DMC has tried to tell stories in the past and it still just comes off as very generic and uninteresting. Devil May Cry can not hold up on anything more than gameplay because everything else about it just isn't as interesting at all. With such a bloated sense of social satire DmC comes off as the more self aware game and they were looking to make DmC feel more like movies do in the storytelling and it does.

The story is actually told better with cutscenes woven into the narrative and the best voice acting the series has seen yet. The motion capture and design of the game definitely makes it a very well designed game technologically as well and I expected that because NT has a rep for using some of the best technological techniques in the industry.

Do you honestly think NT really feels this way about the world and DmC is some kind of message about how they really feel? I swear to god, if you honestly believe that I will probably send you money for being so stupid because I'm pretty sure I can write you off as charity work. This fanbase has been ridiculous supposedly interpreting the wig joke as some kind of insult to complaining about something as trivial as Vergil shooting a demonic baby acting like it was so bad. Vergil is so goddamn uninteresting and boring in the original games anyway that if he stayed the same for the most part I would still hate him. Vegil IS A VERY STUPID AND WEAK EXCUSE FOR A VILLAIN. I was hoping Vergil to change more than anyone else because he was so dumb. Why to people like this lame idiot?

You're acting like I don't understand what you're trying to say but simply you accept it's stupid crap and fans supposedly think that it was entertaining. I don't think it is. If DMC wanted to be entertainingly cheesy then I know of far better examples who do that so much better. Like Evil Dead 2 and Army Of Darkness which is part of my favorite trilogy of movies of all time. Devil May Cry's sense of humor comes of as grating and just stupid as isn't as funny or entertaining as it thinks it is. I really don't care about hearing anything these characters have to stay and I'll just get back to cutting up demons. DmC at least had me paying more attention to the story especially if I have characters this time around who's entire vocabulary doesn't seem to exist completely of one liners and cliche cheese. It does not use the more mature themes at an attempt at supposedly being more mature to a ridiculous extent like you think it does. Sure the intro cinematic isn't something I'd use to showoff video games as art but it sure as hell was a hell of alot more interesting than some of the cutscenes from the previous games which thinks it's so cool for being cheesy where I just rather slap Dante over the head and say quit being a f*cking try hard. He should have stayed like he was in the 1st game which had him cocky but not as in your face about it.

The first Dante we ever seen is actually still my favorite so yea. DMC 3 makes me want to punch him half the time and 2, well I have nothing to say about because he didn't do ANYTHING. He was just boring. His hair did the acting in that game. 4 just took about every single generic anime trend in the book and built its entire world around that which came off as just completely retarded. A very lazy game overall that was such a piece of sh!t that I won't even give the gold star for combat because it's a game that sure as hell wanted me to hate it. I was one and done with 4 and actually we took the game and threw it in a bon fire to roast some hot dogs one day. Where is the sudden praise for this piece of sh!it DMC 4 coming from? Did the people just suddenly forget how much grief they gave 4? Calling it the worst DMC since 2. Why the sudden change of heart? I won't give DMC 4 any excuse. It was god awful. DmC is better than 2 and 4 no question.

 

[MedicoreR]

F*%& DMC4 !
It was worst game ever
Who is that stupid loverboy crybaby Nero guy?
Devil Brigger is so cheap. I always jump and mash Devil Brigger, it kills everything
We want old Dante who uses guitar as a weapon. We want also a Drum Weapon too.
Why bosses are always Snakes, frogs, flies, horses?
The game has only 10 missions. And 10 same missions for Dante (1,5 hours, you serious Capcom?)
Stupid electronic songs everywhere
F*%& Kyrie, stupid girl is too weak
Why dont they give us Trish and Lady as a free DLC? Why?
In DMC3 Dante had 200 moves, but in DMC4 he has 70..Why Crapcom Whyyy?
The game is too easy and too short, it doesnt worth to 60$
Why would i buy a game for just Bloody Palace (trial mode)?
Why Crapcom why?
Why DMC4 doesnt have any costumes?


Yeah, thats you haters.

 

[ChaserTech]

Wow what an ***** you are..

Chill.

I never insulted you, so why must you insult me?

OMG, now im ****ed
Obviously im talking about ''what would happen if Capcom did DmC'' Im also talking about a new weapon.

Well the game has a lot more than 2 songs.

He thought i was talking about DMC4 , i acceptted the challange and said

"omg are you serious?
what songs played while Nero fight aganist his casual enemies?
If you write 2 songs, im done"

That still doesn't change the fact that you originally implied DMC4 had 2 songs in which Slacri responded, stating that there are much more than just 2 songs in the entire soundtrack. Then you changed to "name 2 songs that Nero fights with casual enemies" in order to "accept his challenge". That's extremely trivial since you completely ignored the rest of the soundtrack only to ask Slacri to name more than 1 song for Nero's battle theme.

Also, DMC isn't the only game that has 1 battle theme while fighting normal enemies. Take a look at some of the Final Fantasy and Legend of Zelda games.

If you can write, then im an idiot.
If you cant, then you are an idiot.

If you're going to call people idiots just because you want someone to name more than 1 song for Nero's battle theme, then I pity you. Like I said before, you originally suggested that DMC4 only had 2 songs. And afterwards you flip-flopped your implied statement to something different.

But if you really want me to, here's another song that happens during the introduction and the entire fight of Bianco Angelo, a normal enemy that is encountered regularly.

Bianco Angelo isn't considered a "mini boss" because there are multiple Bianco Angelos that you fight. DMC4's mini bosses include Blitz, Alto Angelo (arguably a mini boss or just an elite), and Faust.

Fanboys...

You're the one who's remotely acting like one.