I don't think you understand what I am getting at. Instead of leaving the button as a second dodge I would have liked if they attempted to bring in a new gameplay aspect. I am fine with the current mapping of the game. I just wish we would stop seeing unused buttons on the controller. Most of the DMC games have done it and it always bothers me.
I think you fail to grasp the value of putting gunspecial onto a separate button, without doing this you cannot do advanced techniques in DmC: stuff like double gun charge stocking, or charging ricoshot while doing rainstorms, or fireworks, the extra ability you're seeking is already in DmC, and the fact you can't do this without remapping one of the dodges to gunspecial is evidence that they knew about it and expected advanced players to choose which dodge to sacrifice. Also, again, DmC doesn't waste it for 90% of players, because the dodges are their for convenience and are different when modified with each trigger. This is not really wasting a button, since you can REMAP IT. DmC does not waste any buttons, because it allows you TO MAP all the two button press functions to individual buttons (again see gunspecial and deviltrigger)I don't know how many times I have to repeat this.
Also, remapping deviltrigger to dpaddown also allows for something that can't feasibly be done with the default scheme, which is deviltrigger cancelling to skip the animation. So again, remapping brings about a new element to the gameplay and is reserved for the advanced players who'd care to experiment with it.
Honestly, this ass backwards config thing is a jap game issue and platinum won't let bad habits die. Take for example, Sam, now Sam has something similar to dante's old trickster dash. He has a nice free dodge, when you can get it to work without the camera ****ing you, but in order to do a dash in the air, you have to let go of Ninja run and tap it again. WHY IS THIS? If they had mapped dodge to circle than circle could be like the old style button at the very least. That way the player would know, okay circle is evasive manuerver both in air and ground.
Right now its like, okay, you ninja run to escape, than you press jump jump, oh **** you want to evade again, so you have to let go of RT, which feels unnatural and press it again. If the dash and dodge were on circle none of this would be an issue, but again stupid backwards control schemes.
I would have liked one to be a block button with demon block being similar to royal guard and angel block being a phase through sort of thing.
The problem with it being a royal guard esque move is that it becomes a move that doesn't chain into combos, the thing about the demon dodge buff is that you dodge and if you're really good you can combine it with angel dodge to dodge back into place to continue with any attack only now you have a damage buff. A royal guard I assume would parry back damage or something, and I feel like the parry mechanic in DmC already does that. As for the need to make DmC dodging as absurdly precise as something like MGR is not a good idea, the challenge in DmC is about using that the additional leniency to experiment and express yourself with the combo system. The more rigid you make timings and last second evades or nerf abilities, the more you restrict the players ability to get crazy with the combos.
Watch how Eryx Parries work, it is the only parry in the game that actually damages the enemies in addition to parrying them. It is DmC's version of royal guard, because you stand still, and release the button at the precise time of an incoming attack. All of DmC is based around the concept of hold and release. Every move, and every attack is about mastering the timing of when to hold and when to let go, that is why the system works as elegantly and smoothly as it does.
Now compare this to
I know I"m repeating but this is honestly a platinum game's issue and their reluctance to modernize their combat systems, they even tried to do a free dodge with Sam, but the problem is that its too wonky with the constant camera switching, sometimes he'll cartwheel sometimes he'll roll in close combat, because for some stupid reason Sam has to evade only a single target, enemies don't strike an area, they strike you, this is the flaw in coding. DmC the enemies strike an area, and if a player happens to be in it, they get hit, they don't just all torpedo in with stupid accuracy. I mean in this armstrong fight, its fun, I'm glad I did it on very hard, but its stupid cheap, and bugged to all hell. He spams his torpedo, sometimes you dodge, but you still get hit from buggy hitbox, and so forth.
Also notice how its the same as how dodging with Nero was, its like you either dodge dodge dodge or you attack, i know you can dodge and quick draw, but its still not as seamless as it should be. It always becomes a process of finding a repetitive system to exploit instead of being a flexible system that rewards both player skill and creativity.
