What would you change about Nero

[V's patron]

I actually think he is more akin to dante in DmC personally

And they even fight similar

I see that but I never saw DmC Dante as that different from regular Dante in the final game.

I got into DMC with 3 so it was easier to make that jump.

 

[berto]

I think there are stories to tell with her post 3. I just lost faith in the current team's ability to tell them.

Yeah, well, your not kidding. The anime made the cast completely different and just unlikable. I can't think of a single person in the show with any charm. The stories were... passable, but the presentation was dull and uninspired. The characters are shallow and phony and it creates a world that is nonsensical. Its logic is stupid and its ideas are goofy.

I'm not sure who Lady is without her revenge but that's worth exploring.

Oh, there is plenty to explore but they don't really stick to their own ideas or narratives long enough to. Eg. Lady is descendant of the woman who Sparda sacrificed in order to seal the demon world. She has divine blood which, by the way, is from her father. That's worth looking into. And do they? Nope. Never mentioned again. There is a game, I don't remember which, where you can use a move by Lady that heals the party. Why not look into that? Because the people who made the anime don't seem to know about that and if they do they didn't think there was anything there worth telling about. Dante tells her she can't go and fight her father because facing something like that is 'not something a human could do,' if I remember the line correctly. Then, from the anime going forward, she's suddenly 'one of the most badass women in the world.' What's that about? Is there a story behind that or is she just so popular that they decided to upgrade her with no rhyme or reason and assume nobody would question it? This would've been the time to explain why a human can suddenly take on a demon of this caliber but, no. There is no real thought behind these things. Just shallow action stories.

3 set up some real background to the characters but, after, it never went anywhere.

Nocturne felt like 4 done better when I watched it so I'm curious what their take on Nero would be.

SMT Nocturne or Castlevania Nocturne?

You should tag people when you quote them. I didn't get a notification for this post.

Yeah. I've not seen the bell show activity the last few time I was here. I had to click on it to see the notifications.

Nero actually works better as a character in DmC to be honest

I think that might've been the idea. Nero and DmC Dante have waaayyy too many parallels for them to not be prototypical versions of each other. What I mean is that each is the source or origin of the other. 4's Nero is that basis for DmC Dante and mDante is the basis for 5's Nero. Not just in personality or design but in gameplay, too. He might be a combination of both Dante and Nero but I definitely see more Nero than Dante in him.

 

[V's patron]

@berto
Castlevania Nocturne.

Actually I thought pairing Lady and Trish was a good idea. The anime had a few of those like the human/demon couple in episode 3 and the apprentices in episode 10. But the dull presentation and the lack of follow through didn't help.

I think the game you mentioned is probably project x zone- the crossover with Bandai.

 

[ef9dante_oSsshea]

I think nero needed a dlc lile vergil got in the reboot, to give us a window into his character more.

So if i could go back, i would have added that to 4.

 

[V's patron]

I think nero needed a dlc lile vergil got in the reboot, to give us a window into his character more.

So if i could go back, i would have added that to 4.

It could take place after the game's events. Nero deals with cleaning up remnants of the order's experiments while having to process the game's events.

He's supposed to be ostracized by the community. So maybe their opinion of him would change because of him fighting off demons and the truth if the order.

 

[ef9dante_oSsshea]

Ya after works, though so does a prequel pre devil bringer so we actually see his arm change.

 

[V's patron]

Ya after works, though so does a prequel pre devil bringer so we actually see his arm change.

Maybe/maybe not as I feel like it's better to move him forward. Often prequels are hard to do because you know the ending.

So I rather deal with other aspects like him investigating his heritage. Sanctus dropped a bombshell so Nero would wanna confirm it. We can weave in how he list his arm into that investigation. Maybe there are other humans turned demons Nero can compare notes with.

 

[ef9dante_oSsshea]

No reason both couldn't have been covered in a 6 to 8 mission dlc in dmc4 back in 2008-2009

 

[CaitNíSé_D_Huntress]

A dlc would be cool, or maybe a novel covering the events of nero's childhood up to the start of 4.

Also i can't be the only one who thinks he should get more guns, blue rose is cool and all but it is kind of basic in terms of what can be done with it.

 

[V's patron]

-One of V's concepts was to be Vergil's daughter Angelo. I'm a fraternal twin so I'm fine with giving Nero a fraternal twin sister. I'd have her raised seperately from Nero and reuniting with him when they are older. I'd have Nero's mom giving him up for adoption as she couldn't handle being a single mom of two.

Having his mom and sister pop up in a future game would be ideal.

 

[V's patron]

I'm curious what Nero would be like as Baal's son. Baal was one of Sparda's apprentices from the anime. But I think that plot would be better if Baal was alive during the events of 4 and had a role in Nero's development. I could see Baal taking control of the Order and expanding their operations beyond Fortuna's borders.

@CaitNíSé_D_Huntress
Lady could show him what other guns he should use.

I don't mind giving Nero a prequel but making the plot seperate from the events of 4. Or having it be an adventure that ties into a new event. Nero's past would be a prologue.

 

[ef9dante_oSsshea]

I would make him more stoic and have him speak far less.

 

[V's patron]

JYB's performance as Nero in last few missions of 5 felt more naive. So id lean into that from the get go.

But that would require Nero to be more loyal to the order before getting his arm. Having him be more divided at the start of 4 would give him a clearer contrast to team DMC. Who are all cynical/world weary characters to me.

Smoke from Mk1 is a reference.

 

[V's patron]

I would make him more stoic and have him speak far less.

They never made Quiet Dante work. They might've had more like with Nero.

 

[ef9dante_oSsshea]

Would much prefer a barely speaking nero over a whinging and moaning one who cries over everything.

 

[V's patron]

Looking at my old answers, i'd change nearly everything about him except the raised in Fortuna angle.

Although i dont mind him being Dante's son whose first big mission on his own takes him to Fortuna.

Instead of Ichigo from Bleach, He'd be Hisagi from Bleach.

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Here's a writeup i did a while ago that would explore this version of 4.

 

[ef9dante_oSsshea]

His upbringing, i think being raised by the order and living in fortuna wasn't harsh enough. He needs to be toughened up, and maybe having to fend for himself growing up and being in the wild would have been better.

 

[V's patron]

His upbringing, i think being raised by the order and living in fortuna wasn't harsh enough. He needs to be toughened up, and maybe having to fend for himself growing up and being in the wild would have been better.

I guess you could make him a criminal who was conscripted into the order in exchange for a shorter sentence.

 

[Benny]

Nero is quite troublesome to write. Bingo said something about Nero wouldn't care about human if it wasn't for Kyrie's love before didn't he?

Okay so my idea for Nero would be turning him to be someone who is cynical and doesn't have any strong opinion on both demons and humans. He is a child grew up with no real genuine love. His mother left him at orphanage, he never knew who is his father. People at Fortuna would be superficially nice to him or just indifferent. If Vergil is a prideful, narcissistic man who would do cruel and selfish acts to satisfy his ego, then Nero would be someone who doesn't care about his self so much. No one cares for him, Nero feeling like a fleshy ghost in Fortuna. So he would be quite apathetic towards humanity I guess. If Nero got involved early with Order then he'd be a very efficient soldier, following every orders. Kill demons? Done. Kill the ones who disagreed and tried to rebel against Order? Done. Because being Order's tool gives him a purpose yada yada

I'd change Kyrie as an outsider from Fortuna, symbolizing the new change happening to Nero. She would come along with Dante as work partner to investigate or something I don't know. Or no Dante involved in dmc4 at all eh. Kyrie would be disturbed with Nero's apathy and attempt to persuade him and challenge Nero's worldview by helping Fortuna citizens, who are strangers to her. Kyrie needs a reason to personally care about Nero's mental state but I'm running out of idea. Nero at first doesn't understand why she helped strangers without ulterior motive. But seeing the people she helped came back to repay her kindness and assist her makes Nero slowly come to a realization that he's being negatively influenced. Having humanity means you're capable of change, you can grow, you can inspire others to be better, but you need to be in a positive environment in order to grow as well. Kyrie inspired Nero, starting his blooming affection for her here. Nero switches side and rebels against Order. Order is defeated. Happy ending the end.

My idea is still quite clunky, doesn't seem to relate with dmc theme... Is it too long? It's not like I'm going to write a fanfic for this soon.

 

[V's patron]

Nero is quite troublesome to write. Bingo said something about Nero wouldn't care about human if it wasn't for Kyrie's love before didn't he?

Okay so my idea for Nero would be turning him to be someone who is cynical and doesn't have any strong opinion on both demons and humans. He is a child grew up with no real genuine love. His mother left him at orphanage, he never knew who is his father. People at Fortuna would be superficially nice to him or just indifferent. If Vergil is a prideful, narcissistic man who would do cruel and selfish acts to satisfy his ego, then Nero would be someone who doesn't care about his self so much. No one cares for him, Nero feeling like a fleshy ghost in Fortuna. So he would be quite apathetic towards humanity I guess. If Nero got involved early with Order then he'd be a very efficient soldier, following every orders. Kill demons? Done. Kill the ones who disagreed and tried to rebel against Order? Done. Because being Order's tool gives him a purpose yada yada

I'd change Kyrie as an outsider from Fortuna, symbolizing the new change happening to Nero. She would come along with Dante as work partner to investigate or something I don't know. Or no Dante involved in dmc4 at all eh. Kyrie would be disturbed with Nero's apathy and attempt to persuade him and challenge Nero's worldview by helping Fortuna citizens, who are strangers to her. Kyrie needs a reason to personally care about Nero's mental state but I'm running out of idea. Nero at first doesn't understand why she helped strangers without ulterior motive. But seeing the people she helped came back to repay her kindness and assist her makes Nero slowly come to a realization that he's being negatively influenced. Having humanity means you're capable of change, you can grow, you can inspire others to be better, but you need to be in a positive environment in order to grow as well. Kyrie inspired Nero, starting his blooming affection for her here. Nero switches side and rebels against Order. Order is defeated. Happy ending the end.

My idea is still quite clunky, doesn't seem to relate with dmc theme... Is it too long? It's not like I'm going to write a fanfic for this soon.

It works as an overview. I could see this take on Nero's character arc playing out.