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The Truth Around Lilith's Death *spoilers*

I'm sure it knew who its father was, and wouldn't be against him for any reason. Besides, it probably wasn't moving before because of Lilith not riling it up about fighting Dante. As for having the sex scene, I remember someone saying it was probably a way to keep people from questioning it was true.True, maybe it only moves when Lilith gets it worked up, or because it knew Dante was trouble. I get the feeling the spawn knows what's going on though....kinda creepy if it knew what they were doing, like 'stop hitting me on the head, dad!'. >_<
I'm just going to imagine there is a demon stalk dropping demon babies instead of the sex scene. Have to be a huge stalk though to carry that baby. :P

Since Mundus didn't say anything about her being pregnant until after she was dead, I doubt he would have said anything about it before. Keeping it secret was the best way to ensure the baby wasn't going to be killed before it was born. It's like with attempts to protect a king's heir in the medieval times. They'd take the heir away to a place where he would be safe in case of any assassination attempts.True, especially with The Order. He's aware of them, so if it got out that he had a mistress and she was carrying his heir, she'd be on the hit list. I'm surprised he let her be at the club. Shouldn't she have been kept in the tower? Or maybe he really needed her there to oversee the brainwashing and manipulation of humans. From what Vergil said though, she's not there every night. So who knows....

It would probably try to reach Mundus once it knew it was in danger. That would pretty much raise the chances of Mundus saving the child.Like send a homing signal? If Mundus is connected to the succubus, he's got to be connected to his heir on a deeper level, like a sixth sense. He did know hat it died afterall, so maybe he could also locate it? Like a demonic version of 'ET phone home'. :P

I have no idea. Maybe you're right and it gets bigger when outside her body. Or maybe it was just when it was in an aggressive state. As for the rest, I'd rather not guess. lol. The whole thing with it trying to punch out of her stomach and then coming out her head was bad enough for me. I couldn't watch.
Well, it's just that she's tiny compared to the spawn, so there's no way she could keep it inside her if it was that big. Then again it does have a good go at punching her from inside and really stretching her out.....totally enough to put some ladies off having babies me thinks. >_<
 
Well, it's just that she's tiny compared to the spawn, so there's no way she could keep it inside her if it was that big. Then again it does have a good go at punching her from inside and really stretching her out.....totally enough to put some ladies off having babies me thinks. >_<
I'm sure it was a lot more conscious than people give it credit for. It probably doesn't help me that I've read books that involved women having children that weren't fully human, and they were fully conscious before being born. At least one was also destructive enough to kill its mother when being born. With them the father was needed to keep it calm. I'd guess it was the same with Mundus' offspring. I'd just rather not think too much about it.

Maybe he let her go to the club just to keep up appearances so no one would suspect anything.

lol. It could have been a psychic connection. I think it would be more like, because that's its father, it would go to him for protection. Fathers are usually seen as the guardians, while mothers are the nurturers. I'm sure it would still have that instinct.

Yeah, she would have been torn apart a long time ago if it was actually that big. Or maybe that was just in Limbo after it left her.

I didn't want kids in the first place, seeing that just made it more absolute.
 
My problems with that scene:

1) Lilith was weak and died with 2 bullets. How is that possible?

2) We didn't even see her true demon form. It was a waste, Lilith is one of the most important characters from hell.

3) The "cops" had bad aim and missed about every damn shot, lol.

4) V for Vergil on Vergil's car! That blue!!!!

5) Mundus was a pussy. His wife and kid died and all he does, is casting a lame power attack?

6) Time stops and everything freezes suddenly, so you can save both Vergil and Kat.


How would I fix it:

1) Keep Lilith being shot by Vergil.

2) Instead of shooting, the fake cops turn into demons, providing a decent battle for both Dante and Vergil.

3) After dealing with them, both Dante and Vergil decide to part ways, with the mission focusing only on Dante, trying to get rid of the destruction rate.

4) Get rid of the crap car stuff.

5) Mundus starts taunting Dante throughout the stage, with menacing messages and traps.

6) About the ending of the mission, Lilith appears again, revealing herself as still being alive and trying to get her revenge for the baby's death.

7) You fight Lilith in a vicious battle where she has big claws and eventually assumes a snake form. You woul need to destroy several parts of her body, in order to expose her weak point, a sphere inside of her stomach, the same place that Vergil hit with his rifle.
 
My problems with that scene:

1) Lilith was weak and died with 2 bullets. How is that possible?

2) We didn't even see her true demon form. It was a waste, Lilith is one of the most important characters from hell.

3) The "cops" had bad aim and missed about every damn shot, lol.

4) V for Vergil on Vergil's car! That blue!!!!

5) Mundus was a pussy. His wife and kid died and all he does, is casting a lame power attack?

6) Time stops and everything freezes suddenly, so you can save both Vergil and Kat.


How would I fix it:

1) Keep Lilith being shot by Vergil.

2) Instead of shooting, the fake cops turn into demons, providing a decent battle for both Dante and Vergil.

3) After dealing with them, both Dante and Vergil decide to part ways, with the mission focusing only on Dante, trying to get rid of the destruction rate.

4) Get rid of the crap car stuff.

5) Mundus starts taunting Dante throughout the stage, with menacing messages and traps.

6) About the ending of the mission, Lilith appears again, revealing herself as still being alive and trying to get her revenge for the baby's death.

7) You fight Lilith in a vicious battle where she has big claws and eventually assumes a snake form. You woul need to destroy several parts of her body, in order to expose her weak point, a sphere inside of her stomach, the same place that Vergil hit with his rifle.
sorry this isn't the fanfiction thread
 
My problems with that scene:

1) Lilith was weak and died with 2 bullets. How is that possible?Because she was weak, that's why she died so easily. It's like she wouldn't fight Dante directly because she knew she would lose.

2) We didn't even see her true demon form. It was a waste, Lilith is one of the most important characters from hell.I'm not even sure if she has a true form in the human world. It seemed more like she was borrowing a body looking at the way it was held together with that tightening corset thing.

3) The "cops" had bad aim and missed about every damn shot, lol.They hit Dante a few times, but that was about it. >_<

4) V for Vergil on Vergil's car! That blue!!!!

5) Mundus was a pussy. His wife and kid died and all he does, is casting a lame power attack?Lilith wasn't his wife, she was the mistress. The only thing he cared for was his heir. It wasn't so lame seeing as it took out a big chunk of the city. Plus when Mundus did confront Dante, we went totally apeshit on him after Dante wound him up over the death.

6) Time stops and everything freezes suddenly, so you can save both Vergil and Kat.Not sure what happened there with the slow down, not even sure what it was or how to explain that.:P


How would I fix it:

1) Keep Lilith being shot by Vergil.

2) Instead of shooting, the fake cops turn into demons, providing a decent battle for both Dante and Vergil.I did wonder why they did not turn demon seeing as some of them did in the comic. But I think also some were humans who followed the demon cause.

3) After dealing with them, both Dante and Vergil decide to part ways, with the mission focusing only on Dante, trying to get rid of the destruction rate. Not sure how Dante could do that, if you mean him trying to lessen the damage made by Mundus taking out part of the city. Suggestions?

4) Get rid of the crap car stuff. Vergil would need to escape with Kat somehow, unless you mean get rid of Dante trying to save them while Vergil is driving?

5) Mundus starts taunting Dante throughout the stage, with menacing messages and traps.We've already had malice taunting Dante, besides, Mundus was intent on totally crushing everything so I guess he was also aiming to kill Dante using that big attack.

6) About the ending of the mission, Lilith appears again, revealing herself as still being alive and trying to get her revenge for the baby's death.I don't think she would do that. Look how scared she was in the club after Dante had defeated her spawn. She didn't want to fight him, she just cowered in front of him and promised to do whatever he wanted in exchange for safety. Then in the exchange she looked so broken and scared. If she got a chance to live, I'd say she'd run away and try to save herself. She wouldn't challenge Dante a second time after what happened at the club.

7) You fight Lilith in a vicious battle where she has big claws and eventually assumes a snake form. You woul need to destroy several parts of her body, in order to expose her weak point, a sphere inside of her stomach, the same place that Vergil hit with his rifle.
This would have worked if we'd seen Lilith want to confront Dante directly without hiding behind her child and using it to fight instead of her. I just can't see her fighting when she has a chance to get out of the nasty situation still alive.
 
Lilith´s voice actor lied to me.
She said Lilith was more than Mundus´s mistress, that behind scenes she was plotting for her own gain.

SHE LIED TO ME!
DONT LIE TO ME TONY
DONT LIE!
 
Lilith´s voice actor lied to me.
She said Lilith was more than Mundus´s mistress, that behind scenes she was plotting for her own gain.

SHE LIED TO ME!
DONT LIE TO ME TONY
DONT LIE!
she was in it for herself, not every single antagonist that plots for their own gain gets what they want -_-
 
Lilith´s voice actor lied to me.
She said Lilith was more than Mundus´s mistress, that behind scenes she was plotting for her own gain.

SHE LIED TO ME!
DONT LIE TO ME TONY
DONT LIE!
The whole hanging around him, the heir, it was all in an attempt to get power for herself. She thought she was invincible at the club just because she was the mistress of Mundus; like that would secure her place at the top of the demon command chain. But as soon as she works out that's not going to happen, her plan changes to preserving her own life.
 
Yup. She ended up dead. But, like most have all ready siad: Lillith was just there to paint Vergil in a bad light and get Mundus p.o. So, right now I'm just preaching to the choir at this point.
 
Could anyone point at scenes of her showing or saying something that indicates her intentions?
With her, it's more reading between the lines to work out what she's up to. Also, there's some dialogue that was left out that shows what else she was about.
 
Could anyone point at scenes of her showing or saying something that indicates her intentions?
On the pc version there's some deleted subtitles, take a look:

Dante: So here's the game I'm playing. You're gonna give yourself up and I'm gonna get Kat back.
Lilith: Give myself up? Really? Why would I do that?
Dante: Because if you do, I won't kill you or that child you are carrying.
Lilith: What are you talking about?
Dante: I know you are carrying Mundus' heir.
Lilith: Who told you that?
Dante: Doesn't matter. The secrets out. This changes the game.
Lilith: This changes nothing! You die, I deliver your corpse to Mundus, and I finally take my rightful place by his side!

[Another one]

Dante: I killed the Hunter, the Succubus and that Bob bastard. You dont want to force my hand.
Lilith: I've already seen your hand Dante. You've got no chance against me and the baby.
Dante: I guess we'll find out.
Lilith: Playing with the mix? How fun!
Dante: It's not too late, Lilith. We can still cut a deal here. No one has to die.
Lilith: Oh but I disagree. In this game, YOU have to die!
Dante: Does Mundus know you're playing games with his child's life?
Lilith: Oh, no. Mundus is busy breaking that little bitch girlfriend of yours.

[This little short one]



Lilith:Me a Queen-in-waiting, and the son of a god? For that little maggot?
Lilth: She's no good to anyone now, Dante. That little girl has already been tortured past the point of salvation.

[I'm not sure if this one was cut too but here]

Dante: All I want is Kat and I need you alive to get her back.
Lilith: An exchange? You think our lives are comparable to that tramps?
Dante: So you think Mundus will want a hag like you by his side once he has his son?
Lilith: Killing you will make him love me, respect me! Appreciate me! You don't understand what we have.
Dante: Well then all you have to do is kill me, Lilith! GO FOR IT!

[And then there's dialogue like this from Lilith whenever the baby would lose the fight, opposite to how she'd praise it when it did well]

IGV_0639=Baby, just shut up!
IGV_0640=Don't cry you brat!
IGV_0641=Don't cry you little brat, fight him! Kill Him!
IGV_0642=Come on!, You can do better!
IGV_0643=Is that your best? Kill him!
IGV_0644=Not like that, fight him!
IGV_0645=Don't play with him, kill him!
IGV_0615=Get away from me! Baby! Wake up! You idiot!
IGV_0616=Get up baby!
IGV_0617=Baby, come on!
IGV_0618=Get back up, you brat!
IGV_0619=I said get up!

Not the words I'd choose for a loving mother. o__o damn Lilith.
 

This. So this.


I feel bad for both Arkham and Lilith. And even a little for Arius because.. well... you know.

(the squeal when Dante says, "A false coin, for a false god.")

*WIEEEEERRRRRR*

I agree with you 100%, but hey, DMC 2 had funny moments too!

How could you forget the funniest villain ever? Arius and his ohhh arcanas! I won't be able to transcend all living things! :)

lol

i have had a threesome before in my life

I don't blame Dante for having a threesome. Have you ever had a threesome? It's awesome. I enjoyed it. I guess that makes me "edgy" then.


F*ck yeah. It's fun, ain't it? :troll:

You know what? No, you're being an ass, go away. I talk about a Vergil that uses deception and underhanded tactics in an example i come up with off the top of my head, something that implies that it was in no way how i felt it should actually go down and you call me out on being a DMC3 fanboy? No seriously. Go away. You're an idiot.

Resorting to name calling... hah.
 

I thought the whole slow down bit wasn't actually happening per-se but that it was just Dante thinking fast about what he needed to do to save them in that situation. Kind of like those slow mo scenes in action movies that are just there so the audience can process the situation and basically look cool.

If time did actually stop than I'm at a loss as well ha.
 
What is all this talk about threesomes and Dante having them being "edgy"? I really never thought about all that hard. :/ meh never had threesome myself so I wouldn't know.:|

On topic though: The whole slow motion thing I think it was just for effect like bullet time or something. If it wasn't.... plot-hole, just sayn'.
 
What is all this talk about threesomes and Dante having them being "edgy"? snip.

Off topic: I just scrolled down on your gif and lold I love it!

Anyway having any type of sex doesn't really make anyone edgy whatsoever. I guess there are just some prudes out there that can't handle a 20 something year old male getting some, because you know 20 year old men have to stay pure hearted virgins forever. Somehow having sex with two chicks makes Dante a jerkass try hard1111! is there a smiley face for rolling eyes? there should be. Since when did having a good time and sex become something to be bashed and why? why does that necessarily make someone sleazy; it just seams pretty judgmental in my opinion. I grew up around pretty religious nuts (not bashing religious beliefs by the way) who were holier than thou and that type of archaic thinking will always rub me the wrong way.
 
Well, since I have a very dark sense of humor, I found that scene funny..mostly because I hated her from the beginning.
I know right! I laughed my friggin ass off. XD Mostly because it goes like this:

Vergil: We have ACCESS to Mundus' UNBORN CHILD??? o_______O
>Two missions later
>Kills Lilith and unborn child
>LMFAO
 
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