The argument gay is "against Nature" seems put forward by people who don't even look at nature. Or people who think that sex is only for reproducing. With humans (and some other species) it's way more than just that, sometimes never about breeding and more about bonding or favors or mutual satisfaction or whatever.
You're right. I don't know how it is against nature when seagulls are lesbian, and lots of other animals are homosexual or have homosexual tendencies. I had two male rabbits who tried to...you know:tongue:
Besides, if sex was just for reproduction, then why do condoms, pull out method, vasectomy sterilization, pills and spermicide exist? Clearly people want sex for either pleasure or pair bonding, but don't want to be pregnant. So that does away with the idea of sex for reproduction only. Most people use some form of birth control because they want sex without pregnancy. I don't blame them. It's not worth it these days when all it leads to is divorce, marital affairs, depression and clinics.Then the children who don't even ask to be here suffer the most.
I guess the roots of the fear of homosexuality and people not having children came from high infant death and a need to create lots of children to ensure some survive.
Either that or people who are all about passing on the family line, so a homosexual child would have stopped that. Still, humanity wouldn't go extinct just because some people are gay.
Besides, it's not like you can force hetro people to breed either. Most people these days put off having children or not having them at all for a reason. The world isn't going to stop just because they don't have children. Having said that, I guess that's why people and society put pressure on couples to have children. If a couple say they don't want children, they get abuse and hassle. But pressuring people to reproduce just creates unwanted and unloved children who will be messed up adults.
I don't get why something that doesn't affect anyone outside of the relationship gets people so upset. Even just talking about it now is probably gonna upset some people.
Ingrained and passed down the generations I guess. fear mongering and the like. Persecution and hatred is part of humanity sadly.
People like to butt into the business of other people. Some do it out of misguided sense of helping or doing what they think is right. Others just because they are so self righteous and see problems everywhere except for in themselves and persecute out of a twisted sense of love and trying to save them.
It happens with all relationships, straight or gay, someone always buts in and tries to force their view on someone else. What works for one person just doesn't work for another, and that should be fine.
Then there are the people who say homosexuals prey on children and attack them. In that case, look to the Catholic priests who abuse boys, look to the public school teachers who do the same,or the nursery workers who abuse children too; never mind the actual parents who kill their children.Those are people who are supposedly celibate or straight. Sexual abuse is sexual abuse. Sexuality preference has nothing to do with it and I don't know why child abuse is said to be done by homosexuals.
Unless there's some kind of fictional never-going-to-happen violent uprising of homosexuals VS heterosexual war, then why can't people just live and let live.
I can't speak for anyone but me, but I think you're probably right. Attraction isn't conscious preference, at the same time it depends on who you're with, or surrounded by, who will become an object of attraction, and also the wiring whether any of that makes a circuit and results in being attracted to somebody. One thing I do know is, you don't have much control over that process at all. Anyone who was ever attracted to somebody knows this, so why some of them still think you totally choose who you go for is just... wut.
I could get behind that idea. It makes sense. Besides, people like who they like.
Maybe if we didn't make such a big issue out of it, there wouldn't be so many confused teens afraid to speak to their friends and parents; there wouldn't be adults feeling like they are living a lie in hetero marriages with children. Imagine the damage that causes when mother or father can't take it anymore and says they are gay. The children will have their world turned upside down. Happened to a friend of my brother's and he hasn't looked at his parents in the same way. Lost all respect for them and sees his childhood as a lie.
Yea, the whole choice thing is BS. It's not and people can just look at themselves.
I mean, I have nothing at all against gay people. One of my closest friends are gay but, I can't turn around tomorrow and say I'm gonna date him or anything because I'm just not attracted to men.
True. I have lesbian friends and I'm not going to date them. The most I think about a woman
is she has cool clothes or makeup or a nice personality. But I'm not attracted to them in a dating way. That's just not me. :tongue: