The good and the bad

[rocketvergil]

Well, I think Dubstep is ****, since even talentless people without musical knowledge or skill can create it, but call it what you want.

As for Poison, well, I think her design is just terrible. And sure, people might not be able to beat her, but there are many idiots out there, like the people who can't beat Dark Souls (or even die fighting the weakest monsters). And you can make any boss stronger than your character - that's an instant 'difficulty up' right there.

dubstep is **** but never surrender is noewhere near dubstep it's hardcore

 

[rocketvergil]

sadly no. I haven't watched Naruto since he saved the village from Pain.
I'm pretty behind.

things have gotten way more epic since then

it's good to hear from other naruto fams

 

[TyIquan_DmC]

*spoilers*

One character is too epic for death. And another is so darn epic, you have to wonder how he even died in the first place.

 

[DragonMaster2010]

things have gotten way more epic since then

it's good to hear from other naruto fams

Oh I'm not a Naruto fan anymore. Once shippuuden started, I stopped liking Naruto.

 

[rocketvergil]

Oh I'm not a Naruto fan anymore. Once shippuuden started, I stopped liking Naruto.

SHIPPUDEN IS GREAT!!!!!!!

 

[chocolatepanda]

About the whole DT thing maybe the logic behind him not having a demonic form is because he is also and angel, i could be wrong idk. Besides Dante is still developing his abilities so who knows what will happen later in the game.

 

[darkslayer13]

The answer to this is simple. DmC Dante's Devil Trigger is Devil Trigger because Ninja Theory didn't want to waste time making up another name for it when they had a perfectly good name available. the exact nature of DmC Dante's DT in story is probably not the same as DMC Dante's Devil Trigger but the gameplay term is the same. The fact that it is different doesn't matter. The only thing that matters is that NT decided to use the term Devil Trigger therefore the ability to release DmC Dante's full power is called Devil Trigger not Dante Trigger or Clothing Trigger or Saiyan trigger or any other fan nickname it has acquired. This is a fact not an opinion. There is nothing anyone can say that makes it not Devil Trigger unless NT decides to rename it.

On Topic:
The Good:
1. Interesting gameplay. (possibly better than previous games.)
2. The story looks like it will be interesting.
3. there is the possibility of a coherent story with no major plotholes extending beyond a single game
4. Vergil is almost definitely going to be involved.
5. it seems like the DmC Versions of Sparda and Eva might play a more significant role than the original's did.
6. the Rebooted Versions of Dante and Mundus seem interesting.
7. Kat seems like an interesting charicter.

The Bad:
1. DmC Dante is cool but not as cool as the original
2. since this is an alternate universe it can't explain any of the plotholes in DMC1-4.
3. the changed Devil Trigger* looks like it has the potential to be mildly annoying.

*if you feel the need to argue with me about these two words you did not read the first paragraph of this post or were not paying attention when you did. if you do not believe that DmC Dante's Devil Trigger is a Devil Trigger reread the paragraph until you no longer feel the need to argue. there is nothing else that needs to be said on this subject.

 

[DragonMaster2010]

The answer to this is simple. DmC Dante's Devil Trigger is Devil Trigger because Ninja Theory didn't want to waste time making up another name for it when they had a perfectly good name available. the exact nature of DmC Dante's DT in story is probably not the same as DMC Dante's Devil Trigger but the gameplay term is the same. The fact that it is different doesn't matter. The only thing that matters is that NT decided to use the term Devil Trigger therefore the ability to release DmC Dante's full power is called Devil Trigger not Dante Trigger or Clothing Trigger or Saiyan trigger or any other fan nickname it has acquired. This is a fact not an opinion. There is nothing anyone can say that makes it not Devil Trigger unless NT decides to rename it.

On Topic:
The Good:
1. Interesting gameplay. (possibly better than previous games.)
2. The story looks like it will be interesting.
3. there is the possibility of a coherent story with no major plotholes extending beyond a single game
4. Vergil is almost definitely going to be involved.
5. it seems like the DmC Versions of Sparda and Eva might play a more significant role than the original's did.
6. the Rebooted Versions of Dante and Mundus seem interesting.
7. Kat seems like an interesting charicter.

The Bad:
1. DmC Dante is cool but not as cool as the original
2. since this is an alternate universe it can't explain any of the plotholes in DMC1-4.
3. the changed Devil Trigger* looks like it has the potential to be mildly annoying.

*if you feel the need to argue with me about these two words you did not read the first paragraph of this post or were not paying attention when you did. if you do not believe that DmC Dante's Devil Trigger is a Devil Trigger reread the paragraph until you no longer feel the need to argue. there is nothing else that needs to be said on this subject.

To add to this, This is an alternate version of DMC, so that doesn't mean DT has to be the same. This is the DmC universe's version of DT like DMC's version of DT. NT's version is a trigger that activates Dante's true power and make him go faster, much like DMC's Devil Trigger, only this one freezes time and makes Dante go faster. DMC's Devil trigger is him turning into a demon and him becoming faster and stronger.

So this is Ninja Theory's version of DT and they didn't want to also be copying DMC comepletely so they thought it would be better as an adrenaline power, or better named "Devil Trigger."

 

[DragonMaster2010]

I just realized I don't know if I put on a good and bad part of this

The Good
-New Dante look: I just love the look he sports in this one. Less fashionista, more badass (Like DMC1)

-Gameplay: I wanna see the game for myself, but it looks like it's really smooth.

-Story: From the little snipits we've gotten, I can see this getting interesting.

-Scenary: The areas look absolutely vivid and a great new route for the normal Gothic castles.

-Music: The musice is much more interesting and for the poison boss battle, a bit of dubstep's a pretty awsome touch.

-Characters: With the new style of motion capturing, you can actually feel the character's emotions.

-Style ranking: Though SSS isn't "Stylish" anymore, It's not that big of a deal. Still like the way it's set up.

-F bombs: I enjoy a good F bomb. It makes the character feel real. Since guys like him say F*ck you all the time.

-Vergil possibly in it: Hopefully Vergil will be more intresting then dead emotioned DMC3 Vergil.

-Haters: The more haters you have, the more successful you're becoming.

The Bad
-No original series: They could have atleast finished the original series first. Or maybe DMC4 was the last one since they pretend DMC2 didn't exsist.

-Devil Trigger: I honestly never cared for the old DMC's DT but this one seems a step back to me. He just becomes old Dante again. I understand why he does, and that's pretty cool to me, but just not all that cool to me.

-No more smoking: I liked that smoking habit he had. Made him feel like he had an addiction problem and made him sound more human. (IMO)

That's actually all there is to me with my Goods and Bads.

 

[McdD]

The answer to this is simple. DmC Dante's Devil Trigger is Devil Trigger because Ninja Theory didn't want to waste time making up another name for it when they had a perfectly good name available. the exact nature of DmC Dante's DT in story is probably not the same as DMC Dante's Devil Trigger but the gameplay term is the same. The fact that it is different doesn't matter.
Actually DT exists because it's a great gameplay mechanic to boost while your playing. But the whole purpose of it being called DEVIL is because of the transformation that happens.
And the demonic form in story and DT have exact same nature (at least from DMC). It makes Dante, Nero, Vergil stronger but also changing their appearance. Why else did Arkham transform into Sparda's form for a while? Because DT is the gameplay equvialnt of Dante's demon form in the story. They are the same.
Trish's DT in gameplay is just there to give her a boost. In the story she has no DT because her body was made by Mundus to be like a humans. So she's a 100% demon with human body, if she didn't have human body you would see her demonic form which would be her only form.

The only thing that matters is that NT decided to use the term Devil Trigger therefore the ability to release DmC Dante's full power is called Devil Trigger not Dante Trigger or Clothing Trigger or Saiyan trigger or any other fan nickname it has acquired. This is a fact not an opinion. There is nothing anyone can say that makes it not Devil Trigger unless NT decides to rename it. Group mentality does not make something right. If me, and 1000 other people say "DT" is a power boost with white hair and red jacket, would it make it true? No. I think if the "DT" of DmC Dante did not include a red jacket then it could be a DT depending on a new definition NT could make for DmC. That definition would be "A DT is when a demon releases their full power, and their hair grows white".
But if NT makes such law it will mess up the story of DmC because the demon enemies won't have traits such as white hair. DT in DMC has always been a demonic appearance similar to Berial, and all other demons (not exact)but looking like a demon.

*if you feel the need to argue with me about these two words you did not read the first paragraph of this post or were not paying attention when you did. if you do not believe that DmC Dante's Devil Trigger is a Devil Trigger reread the paragraph until you no longer feel the need to argue. there is nothing else that needs to be said on this subject.

Again the reason why DT is DEVIL trigger and not Power trigger is because of the transformation. The transformation signifies the fact that the character has tapped into his demonic blood and unleashed it.

Either rename the trigger to DAnte, Saiyan, Jacket or Punk trigger or make DmC Dante's change in appearance to what makes a Devil trigger: a Devil look.

About the whole DT thing maybe the logic behind him not having a demonic form is because he is also and angel, i could be wrong idk. Besides Dante is still developing his abilities so who knows what will happen later in the game.

No, your got a good thought. I mentioned the same in previous post.
That perhaps Dante's angel and demon side is fighting eachother, and that means one of the side will win. If Angel wins then he will have a Angel trigger, if Demon wins then he will have a Deviltrigger.

But that still does not make the white hair and redjacket power boost a Devil trigger.
Just saying. It's a very big flaw in DmC to call something like that for a Devil trigger. At least from a DMC perspective.

When i played DMC 1 first time i was blown away by the Devil trigger.I was like "Awesome!!!!". And now as DmC is coming and knowing DmC DAnte is HALF angel, i expect what?
An Angel form = Possible a Angeltrigger.


My tip to NT:
Make a real Devil trigger or rename the power boost.
And also make an Angel trigger that makes DmC DAnte speed alot faster.
Angel style = fast attacks (see what i did there? Built on the idea of Angel style)

Here is a picture relevant to what i am discussing for you all to enjoy

 

[rocketvergil]

Again the reason why DT is DEVIL trigger and not Power trigger is because of the transformation. The transformation signifies the fact that the character has tapped into his demonic blood and unleashed it.

Either rename the trigger to DAnte, Saiyan, Jacket or Punk trigger or make DmC Dante's change in appearance to what makes a Devil trigger: a Devil look.


No, your got a good thought. I mentioned the same in previous post.
That perhaps Dante's angel and demon side is fighting eachother, and that means one of the side will win. If Angel wins then he will have a Angel trigger, if Demon wins then he will have a Deviltrigger.

But that still does not make the white hair and redjacket power boost a Devil trigger.
Just saying. It's a very big flaw in DmC to call something like that for a Devil trigger. At least from a DMC perspective.

When i played DMC 1 first time i was blown away by the Devil trigger.I was like "Awesome!!!!". And now as DmC is coming and knowing DmC DAnte is HALF angel, i expect what?
An Angel form = Possible a Angeltrigger.


My tip to NT:
Make a real Devil trigger or rename the power boost.
And also make an Angel trigger that makes DmC DAnte speed alot faster.
Angel style = fast attacks (see what i did there? Built on the idea of Angel style)

Here is a picture relevant to what i am discussing for you all to enjoy

I want orihime back

 

[chocolatepanda]

That perhaps Dante's angel and demon side is fighting eachother, and that means one of the side will win. If Angel wins then he will have a Angel trigger, if Demon wins then he will have a Deviltrigger.

But that still does not make the white hair and redjacket power boost a Devil trigger.
Just saying. It's a very big flaw in DmC to call something like that for a Devil trigger. At least from a DMC perspective.

When i played DMC 1 first time i was blown away by the Devil trigger.I was like "Awesome!!!!". And now as DmC is coming and knowing DmC DAnte is HALF angel, i expect what?
An Angel form = Possible a Angeltrigger.

I dont think his angel and demon sides are fighting each other since he's not possessed by either of them but since he doesnt have full control over his abilities they might be limiting each other.
I think a form will come since its something that has been in all 4 previous games. Its just probably later on in the game.

 

[McdD]

I dont think his angel and demon sides are fighting each other since he's not possessed by either of them but since he doesnt have full control over his abilities they might be limiting each other.
I think a form will come since its something that has been in all 4 previous games. Its just probably later on in the game.

I was thinking of what Tameem said that Dante is coming to term of what he is.

Anyhow until that white hair and red jacket is replaced by a demonic form i will scream out like a town cryer "That´s not a DT!!!", simply because it´s not.

 

[darkslayer13]

Again the reason why DT is DEVIL trigger and not Power trigger is because of the transformation. The transformation signifies the fact that the character has tapped into his demonic blood and unleashed it.

Either rename the trigger to DAnte, Saiyan, Jacket or Punk trigger or make DmC Dante's change in appearance to what makes a Devil trigger: a Devil look.


No, your got a good thought. I mentioned the same in previous post.
That perhaps Dante's angel and demon side is fighting eachother, and that means one of the side will win. If Angel wins then he will have a Angel trigger, if Demon wins then he will have a Deviltrigger.

But that still does not make the white hair and redjacket power boost a Devil trigger.
Just saying. It's a very big flaw in DmC to call something like that for a Devil trigger. At least from a DMC perspective.

When i played DMC 1 first time i was blown away by the Devil trigger.I was like "Awesome!!!!". And now as DmC is coming and knowing DmC DAnte is HALF angel, i expect what?
An Angel form = Possible a Angeltrigger.


My tip to NT:
Make a real Devil trigger or rename the power boost.
And also make an Angel trigger that makes DmC DAnte speed alot faster.
Angel style = fast attacks (see what i did there? Built on the idea of Angel style)

Here is a picture relevant to what i am discussing for you all to enjoy

What exactly does a video game developer's right to pick gameplay terms without fan input have to do with group mentality?
Read my post again and pay attention this time.

The answer to this is simple. DmC Dante's Devil Trigger is Devil Trigger because Ninja Theory didn't want to waste time making up another name for it when they had a perfectly good name available. the exact nature of DmC Dante's DT in story is probably not the same as DMC Dante's Devil Trigger but the gameplay term is the same. The fact that it is different doesn't matter. The only thing that matters is that NT decided to use the term Devil Trigger therefore the ability to release DmC Dante's full power is called Devil Trigger not Dante Trigger or Clothing Trigger or Saiyan trigger or any other fan nickname it has acquired. This is a fact not an opinion. There is nothing anyone can say that makes it not Devil Trigger unless NT decides to rename it.

On Topic:
The Good:
1. Interesting gameplay. (possibly better than previous games.)
2. The story looks like it will be interesting.
3. there is the possibility of a coherent story with no major plotholes extending beyond a single game
4. Vergil is almost definitely going to be involved.
5. it seems like the DmC Versions of Sparda and Eva might play a more significant role than the original's did.
6. the Rebooted Versions of Dante and Mundus seem interesting.
7. Kat seems like an interesting charicter.

The Bad:
1. DmC Dante is cool but not as cool as the original
2. since this is an alternate universe it can't explain any of the plotholes in DMC1-4.
3. the changed Devil Trigger* looks like it has the potential to be mildly annoying.

*if you feel the need to argue with me about these two words you did not read the first paragraph of this post or were not paying attention when you did. if you do not believe that DmC Dante's Devil Trigger is a Devil Trigger reread the paragraph until you no longer feel the need to argue. there is nothing else that needs to be said on this subject.

 

[McdD]

What exactly does a video game developer's right to pick gameplay terms without fan input have to do with group mentality?
Read my post again and pay attention this time.

Do you realize why Devil trigger is called that?
Because it transforms you into a devil form.

A form similar to the demons in DMC serie.

Calling white hair and red jacket for a Devil trigger is against DMC logic of what a devil/demon is in that serie. It's even against universal logic of what a devil/demon is considered to look like.
And it does not even make sense. Even in a DmC logic demons aren't white haired and has a red clothing. Yes, gameplay is different from story but Devil trigger in gameplay is BASICALLY the same thing as the demonic form in story. They go hand in hand - makes sense - it's perfect.

And by group mentality i mean just because Ninja theory calls that transformation for Devil trigger it does not mean in actuality that it's a DT. It is a TRIGGER, but not Devil/Demon one.
So if fans gulp up this that white hair and red jacket is a Devil trigger, then your just accepting something that the trigger is not. A devil trigger.

I know what i am talking about well. No matter what happens:
- That white hair and redjacket transformation is ilogical to call Devil trigger.

I am not saying Ninja theory can't do that. I am just saying they are using a term to describe a transformation that's not Devil...

Let me illustrate my point further:
Let's say DmC Dante has extra triggers in addition to that "White hair andredjacket" ok?

- A trigger where he transforms into a wolf
- A trigger where he transform into an angel
- A trigger where he transforms into a unicorn
- A trigger where he transforms into a chimera
- A trigger where he transforms into a Phoenix

What would you call all of those triggers? I will tell you since i need to spell it out -.-:
Wolf Trigger, Angel trigger, Unicorn trigger, Chimera trigger and Phoenix trigger.

The triggers are named after what the transformation makes Dante look like.

My "stubborness" is constructive critism. But sadly noone is nice enough to acknowledge what's logical, and admit what i say makes sense.
It's even sadder because if DmC Dante turns into a devil/demon form everyone will go "OMG that looks awesome". Instead that of that saiyan, jacket or Dante trigger lol.

 

[Lionheart]

dubstep is **** but never surrender is noewhere near dubstep it's hardcore

I know, but we were talking about how dubstep is basically the new hardcore (in popularity).

 

[mrrandomlulz]

the good

Good: Anons vs Demons, shifting world
Bad: new dante, stance system looks inferior IMHO
The ugly: Kat in comparison to Lady :troll:

 

[Lionheart]

My name, by the way is Dante47! But you can call me Dante47 the bullshit exposer! Has a nice ring to it, don't you think?

- How does Dante's voice sound annoying? It's not like its whiny (Cough, Nero, Cough). We have only seen Kat's face, and she looks nothing like Rihanna. Your thinking of Lucia from DMC2. We've only seen Mundus once, and he looks nothing like a "peabrain ape" or whatever the **** that is. Are you not aware of DMC's past? We've had talking dogs, giant spiders, and a ******* helicopter as bosses and you complain about the design of this one?

-The only gameplay we've seen is done by amateurs, people who aren't chaining combos like we will when we get our hands on it. Choco has done a study proving some moves and attacks are just as fast, and even faster than previous games.

- The Devil Trigger, is a ******* Devil Trigger. It serves the same purpose and does the same thing. It just looks different.

- The music is electric but still heavy metal. Which is the same thing as ******* every soundtrack in the whole series.

So everything you're complaining about makes absolutely no sense and is illogical. I know you have an opinion, but you are basing your opinion off false facts.

Why should I take anything you say seriously when you don't even know what a peabrain is, or have never heard of the word? Dante's voice is annoying because it's not a unique voice at all - he sounds like any ordinary asshole who can't grow up.

Yes, Kat looks like Rihanna, or at least like an underground slut. We've only seen Kat's face? Are you kidding? I saw her character design on Facebook at least a month ago.
Mundus looks like an idiot gangster, and has an idiotic voice to match. I'm not interested in a game that throws movie clichés at you.

I guess the first gameplay trailers - which, as far as I know, were played by game designers (not amateurs), don't count, huh? Show me this 'study' (study... seriously XD).

The Devil Trigger is not a DT at all - it's a Dante Trigger. No devil form, just the boring old Dante form.

The soundtrack is not as melodic as I would've hoped. I hope there will still be some gems among the songs.


I'd say this has nothing to do with logic, just opinion. And to be honest, I can't be persuaded to change my opinion, as it's simply impossible to find gold in s h i t.
I've mentioned some facts, so... don't they exist to you?

 

[darkslayer13]

Do you realize why Devil trigger is called that?
Because it transforms you into a devil form.

A form similar to the demons in DMC serie.

Calling white hair and red jacket for a Devil trigger is against DMC logic of what a devil/demon is in that serie. It's even against universal logic of what a devil/demon is considered to look like.
And it does not even make sense. Even in a DmC logic demons aren't white haired and has a red clothing. Yes, gameplay is different from story but Devil trigger in gameplay is BASICALLY the same thing as the demonic form in story. They go hand in hand - makes sense - it's perfect.

And by group mentality i mean just because Ninja theory calls that transformation for Devil trigger it does not mean in actuality that it's a DT. It is a TRIGGER, but not Devil/Demon one.
So if fans gulp up this that white hair and red jacket is a Devil trigger, then your just accepting something that the trigger is not. A devil trigger.

I know what i am talking about well. No matter what happens:
- That white hair and redjacket transformation is ilogical to call Devil trigger.

I am not saying Ninja theory can't do that. I am just saying they are using a term to describe a transformation that's not Devil...

Let me illustrate my point further:
Let's say DmC Dante has extra triggers in addition to that "White hair andredjacket" ok?

- A trigger where he transforms into a wolf
- A trigger where he transform into an angel
- A trigger where he transforms into a unicorn
- A trigger where he transforms into a chimera
- A trigger where he transforms into a Phoenix

What would you call all of those triggers? I will tell you since i need to spell it out -.-:
Wolf Trigger, Angel trigger, Unicorn trigger, Chimera trigger and Phoenix trigger.

The triggers are named after what the transformation makes Dante look like.

My "stubborness" is constructive critism. But sadly noone is nice enough to acknowledge what's logical, and admit what i say makes sense.
It's even sadder because if DmC Dante turns into a devil/demon form everyone will go "OMG that looks awesome". Instead that of that saiyan, jacket or Dante trigger lol.

If you really think Devil Trigger is a bad name than think of a good one ( note: a name that is descriptive but sounds stupid (jacket trigger, punk trigger, Dante Trigger, saiyan trigger) is not a good name.) If you can do that than i will agree that NT should not have used the term DT (of course if you can't than you have to admit that Devil Trigger is the best possible name)

 

[Lionheart]

Why not abandon the '<insert name> Trigger'? Why not Dark Blood or Divine Curse or something? Of course, I'm not creative, so these names suck.

 

[McdD]

If you really think Devil Trigger is a bad name than think of a good one ( note: a name that is descriptive but sounds stupid (jacket trigger, punk trigger, Dante Trigger, saiyan trigger) is not a good name.) If you can do that than i will agree that NT should not have used the term DT (of course if you can't than you have to admit that Devil Trigger is the best possible name)

Now i called the trigger based on how it seems. It can´t be a Devil or Demon trigger because demons form don´t include clothes (and they certainly don´t become red) or white hair as their demonic trait.

The best option to call it is Dante trigger because the idea with the white hair and red jacket is to make fans realize "OMG it´s classic Dante!!". Hence why i believe Dante trigger is the most suitable name.
The second to that comes Saiyan trigger because Goku´s hair changed when he transformed, and he also got new clothes (Super saiyan 4).
Then comes a new term called "Punk Trigger" which is just a random name i put considering DmC is a punk themed game. This name has nothing to do with the look of the transformation (so not a good term).

Then you can make generic names such as :

Crazy Trigger
Brutal Trigger
Rage trigger (DmC Dante looked really angry with his mouth opened and eyes closed)


I can only tell you that white hair and red jacket is not a Devil trigger.
I can also tell you that since DmC Dante is half angel i expect a Angel form/mode which will be more than appropriate to call a "Angel trigger".

And here´s my idea for Angel and Devil trigger (based on which stance your on):
Angel trigger: alot faster attacks.
Devil trigger (assuming demonic transformation): heavy damage trigger.

This builds on the concept of angel stance weapons being fast and Devil stance being slow but heavy hitter.

EDIT:
My idea about Angel and Devil trigger is great Should get paid for that!