That flashback *Spoiler warning*

[AgentRedgrave]

Anybody who hasn't played as far as mission 10 *spoiler warning* also, I myself am on mission 12. So nooobody say anything about it or post. So in-regards to Dante's flashback to his mom's death. Given Vergil's disregard towards his human side as a weakness and view of humanity in-general. Does anyone besides me find it very heartbreaking that Eva died, instead of maybe running or hiding with Dante, because she was looking for him?

 

[ef9dante_oSsshea]

Yes it was a tough moment , kind of makes me wish that night was playable or fully shown too

Or we had some prequel sparda game

They are so vague on lots of details about it all

 

[V's patron]

I'm glad that the game did give clarity on what happened that night. We finally get to see Eva and we learned how Dante got the name Redgrave. Bringing back his past as a mercenary is a win in my book.

I'm just sad it didn't happen sooner.

 

[Carlos]

I thought the story is nodding at Trish being Eva. Pay attention to the body language and attitudes. Trish seems to know a lot about the demons. Way too much. In the past DMC games, you wouldn't notice this. But here, I did.

Besides that, she said it right there in the flashback "change your name," Dante didn't listen, and went on with his life as demon. Vergil, too. So, I think Eva took it upon herself to change her name. I doubt that Vergil killed Eva, or Eva died. I think Dante realizes this, too. Both Nero and Dante. In the scene where Dante saves Trish, you notice that Dante turns his head away from the screen. Like I said before: Body language.

 

[ef9dante_oSsshea]

Except Mundus created Trish who is a lightning demon , and Eva was human

 

[Carlos]

Except Mundus created Trish who is a lightning demon , and Eva was human

Hm. There is that. *moves mouth to far left and then far right*

 

[V's patron]

@Carlos
I guess maybe Mundus used Eva's body to create Trish? Maybe she is a lightning demon possessing Eva's corpse?

I don't think Trish knowing a lot about demons is a sign she's Eva. She's a demon who served Mundus she should know the most out of the main cast. We don't know how much Eva knows about demons to make that call. We barely know anything about Eva other than she was Dante and Vergil's mom/Sparda's wife.

the most she's been developed is actually from Bayonetta.

Dante did change his name tho, he became tony redgrave for a while.

 

[berto]

Mundus created Trish. That is a long standing canon. There is no connection between Trish and Eva outside of their appearance.

 

[AgentRedgrave]

I thought the story is nodding at Trish being Eva. Pay attention to the body language and attitudes. Trish seems to know a lot about the demons. Way too much. In the past DMC games, you wouldn't notice this. But here, I did.

Besides that, she said it right there in the flashback "change your name," Dante didn't listen, and went on with his life as demon. Vergil, too. So, I think Eva took it upon herself to change her name. I doubt that Vergil killed Eva, or Eva died. I think Dante realizes this, too. Both Nero and Dante. In the scene where Dante saves Trish, you notice that Dante turns his head away from the screen. Like I said before: Body language.

Dude....Trish is a demon Mundus created to look like Eva to manipulate Dante. Anyone who played DMC1 knows that. Also, he did listen, that's why Dante, for a time, went by the name Tony Redgrave (pointed out by Morrison in his letter)

 

[Methix]

Anybody who hasn't played as far as mission 10 *spoiler warning* also, I myself am on mission 12. So nooobody say anything about it or post. So in-regards to Dante's flashback to his mom's death. Given Vergil's disregard towards his human side as a weakness and view of humanity in-general. Does anyone besides me find it very heartbreaking that Eva died, instead of maybe running or hiding with Dante, because she was looking for him?

Funny thing is, vergil now realizes his human side is what makes him strong and he finally accepted it which has redeemed him in a way also his son the fact he has one will only make it have more effect now. also i think vergil can become the most powerful being in the dmc universe if he has something to fight for besides himself when he has accepted his humanity.

 

[V's patron]

Funny thing is going back to Dante/Vergil's childhood home did remind me of DmC a bit.

 

[LordOfDarkness]

Funny thing is going back to Dante/Vergil's childhood home did remind me of DmC a bit.

Sounds like something they took from DmC, which is good.

 

[Vergil95]

Funny thing is going back to Dante/Vergil's childhood home did remind me of DmC a bit.

The director of dmc 5 hideki hitsuno sayd in an interview that the reboot help them a lot in some choices they do for dmc5... Intact this dmc 5 in some way is more like the reboot, like the camera angle, and some design choice of the environment, like secret and hidden path

 

[Innsmouth]

When you mention it, game does feature same level structure as DmC, being completely linear and only featuring some secret areas inbetween. But it's not bad imho, since running around looking where to go next only broke pacing for me in previous titles. I just wish levels were more colorfull.

 

[Vergil95]

When you mention it, game does feature same level structure as DmC, being completely linear and only featuring some secret areas inbetween. But it's not bad imho, since running around looking where to go next only broke pacing for me in previous titles. I just wish levels were more colorfull.

Infact I loved dmc reboot and this too

 

[Vergil95]

I thought the story is nodding at Trish being Eva. Pay attention to the body language and attitudes. Trish seems to know a lot about the demons. Way too much. In the past DMC games, you wouldn't notice this. But here, I did.

Besides that, she said it right there in the flashback "change your name," Dante didn't listen, and went on with his life as demon. Vergil, too. So, I think Eva took it upon herself to change her name. I doubt that Vergil killed Eva, or Eva died. I think Dante realizes this, too. Both Nero and Dante. In the scene where Dante saves Trish, you notice that Dante turns his head away from the screen. Like I said before: Body language.

Trish was a demon created by mundus to look like Eva to lure dante to mallet Island so nelo Angelo would fight him and defeat him, it's stated both in dmc 1 and dmc 5 before the nightmare... Eva is not Trish... Trish know many things about the demon world because she lived there all her life

 

[LordOfDarkness]

Guys you don’t all have to jump down @Carlos throat just for the post he made. And yes, Trish WAS a demon created by Mundus but what if he used actual parts of Eva like her soul or something and embodied them into Trish when he created her? DMC can be very vague and just saying “I created an image of your mother” to sum up how Trish came into existence is not hugely explanatory and from memory was something that wasn’t really touched upon. So I can agree that although she is a demon created by Mundus that perhaps there could be some logic to assume that Eva’s soul/spirit whatever you want to call it could also be within Trish when Mundus created her. It’s not a far fetched theory and would further implicate Mundus’ hatred towards the Sparda bloodline because he didn’t just create something that was in her image he would’ve created something that essentially is/was Eva only evil and demonic.

Either way it doesn’t matter if any of what’s been said holds any weight or not. The point is not to have a go at people for thinking or believing something might be different.

 

[ef9dante_oSsshea]

Don't the umbra witches do something with a former witches soul

Isn't Eva one according to bayonetta

 

[V's patron]

Don't the umbra witches do something with a former witches soul

Isn't Eva one according to bayonetta

Bayonetta doesn't count because different companies. Capcom would have to acknowledge it themselves for it to count.

 

[ef9dante_oSsshea]

True I suppose , although surely with IP property the bayo Devs would need permission from capcom about Eva being used/mentioned in game since it's part of her story arc?