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Agility said:
You've made countless threads about the hair, you've been whining about it for the longest.

LET IT GO!

And Meg...who let you back in?
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He hasn't complained about hair. Trust me, he's actually not mentioned the hair at all.

And come on guys. Don't get mad at Meg just because she's not into the game, this is a forum after all and everyone is intitled to their own opinion.

However, Randomlulz, that was uncalled for, calling people idiots.
 
DragonMaster2010 said:
He hasn't complained about hair. Trust me, he's actually not mentioned the hair at all.

And come on guys. Don't get mad at Meg just because she's not into the game, this is a forum after all and everyone is intitled to their own opinion.

However, Randomlulz, that was uncalled for, calling people idiots.
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Don't uppercase his name, because he's of a lower case.

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for the past three pages i was
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Azurel said:
You're wrong. Totally wrong. DMC was the greatest thing since Ben & Jerry's. And Vergil is not generic. He's a very special character who totally did not rip off of Sephiroth, Sessoramu, and Vergil from Static Shock (come on, they both wear blue trench coats and have spiky hair...though I'm sure that time it may have been pure coincidence...still, the point stands).

Oh, and even a little from Richter Belmont (he also had a blue trench coat (in the official art work, anyway) and had a rapid-slash dash move--I say it counts.)

So yes. I'm right. You're wrong. Old Vergil rules. New Vergil sucks. :troll:

And what do you mean "sinking ship"?? A few leaks here and there....and an iceberg.... never hurt anybody! Just slap some duct tape on it like Capcom usually does and it'll be as good as new! Or DMC4. Whichever is more believable.


"Vezlid"?? More like...."Vex....lid".... because you vex ...people. (vex = agitate) And it had a very deep story! Aspiring writers of today can learn a thing or two from the paper-thin plot. Sure, you could put the whole thing on a menu at Denny's, but that doesn't mean it was anything less than spectacular. It's quality, not quantity.

And don't tell me that the old DMC series had neither, because then it would be obvious that you have no idea what you're talking about. Just let the the old fanboys like me wallow in our delusions of grandeur and we'll keep ignoring your valid, well-thought out arguments.

Honestly...some people...:/
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You made me imagine Sephiroth fighting Dante at the end of DMC3 instead of Vergil...next time I play DMC3, I'm playing the Sephiroth theme song. Thanks for the idea, Azurel. Or should I say...yeah I got nothing :/
 
Railazel said:
Personally, I'm not impressed by this at all. Some part of me wants to be but it really is becoming very basic and I'm just getting more disappointed the more I know about this story. I was hoping a story trailer would put some of my doubts and expectations to rest but what they are showing just confirms them. Simply put, NT may be very creative story- tellers but HS has been the only truly creative story they've made so far. Even though it's unfair to say that since they only made four games so far, it still holds since they are trying to build their reputation on their story- writing. While I assume that people will see DmC as the best story in the franchise, I shall see it as being no more creative than the others.

You see, it is bad enough that the anti- establishment message is practically in your face, they basically copy- pasted the themes from other stories and simply added the extra spice of the ultimate result of the tyranny being (you guessed it) a giant monster. I understand that they want to re- interpret the DMC's universe and I believe that this a very creative of way of doing so but I can't really appreciate that when it is done so blatantly that I don't really have time to contemplate on the theme and ultimately how it applies to my everyday life (which is the ultimate test for any story).

The other thing that's really devaluing the game is (and this might come as a surprise) Vergil. As much as I like it when family members unite for a common cause, I hate it when it is done in such a... stereotypical fashion. Before you pull out the "you can't say anything about it yet" card on me, a person can tell alot from trailers because in them are small cues about the story as a whole. While there is always the uncertainty factor of how the story might actually play out, you can pretty much give a good guess as to what the story might be about. You can also do the same for the characters.

So far, the story is taking the old "reuniting the brothers" route where long lost brothers would come together for a common goal. Generically, this can be done in alot of creative ways but the stereotypical is the way that DmC is seemingly approaching it. In these cases, the main hero would reunite with his long- not- seen brother, who is opposite of him in many characteristics, to stop a common enemy. Somewhere in the middle of this journey, the differences between the brothers would reach their peak and the two would fight, often to the death, but then regain their senses after being reminded of what's more important. DmC could very well go without this conflict but the rest of the scenario is definitely in there. What would make it interesting would be that Dante is betrayed by Vergil (which I'm betting on as a last string of hope) but there seems to be suggestions in the trailer that say otherwise (which I'm hoping are just mere distractions).

Other than that, Vergil himself is just a very unsurprising reveal. I assume it is because (1) that I've guessed early on that the Order's leader is Vergil and (2) Vergil was revealed in a very unspectacular way. There's not alot of mystery to him as a character and the trailer just simply revealed him without really giving him any value beyond what's apparent. He's Dante's brother, he is a leader of the organization, he doesn't like demons, and... that's it.

The only thing that's keeping me interested now is what twists will be in the story, if there are any. Truth be told, despite my impression of him, I'm sort of suspicious of Vergil. There are some things in the trailer that are awfully confusing. If Vergil's family were rich, why would the demons kill them when they were obviously benefitting from society and were probably a part of what was going on? If Vergil was raised in the same orphanage as Dante, why would his parents choose him without Dante? Plus Vergil's motive for this seems to save the world but his bio says that he's doing it for revenge, so which is his primary motive or is he simply trying to kill two birds with one stone? But Vergil's smart, so he should know that the Demons are the primary keepers of order in society and it would crumble without them so, while he's stopping the Demons from destroying the world, he's just simply preventing one evil for a lesser evil. Why? Wouldn't it be better for him to just simply change the system from the inside out? Why full- front rebellion? Why make an entire organization when he could just simply gain a high position in the system and change the rules? He's smart and rich, so he has the means. Really, it's these questions that are keeping interested in the story of the game, but I fear that NT would just disappoint me and make Vergil one of those characters who does things that conflicts with his characteristics.
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The story does seem like it's taking a very generic take on the ol' BROTHERS UNITE theme. But if you realize there's other characters, and some other things going on...I mean all of the trailers before this one told different things, without mentioning Vergil. So the story could be very complex, beyond the BROTHERS UNITE theme. But it could also be generic, as you pointed out. From here, it's very hard to tell.

Now, Vergil's reveal didn't hit very hard, at all. At least to me. But the trailer did give me this eerie feeling. Right when Vergil showed his face, behind all of those shadows and dust. I'd bet that those things were put in there, not to hide his face (because it can clearly be seen), but to give him this suspicious look. Like there's something dark going on about him. Every time Vergil was shown, there was something disturbing lurking around...

I hope Vergil betrays Dante at one point, and doesn't go back for some sort of redemption until something like DmC 3 (there's a second already in the works right?). And hopefully, as you said, Vergil doesn't turn into just a foil to Dante.



On a different note, this picture...
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Notice how the mother has this creepy look, and that she almost fades into the background. And also notice where Dante and Vergil (well, assuming that's them) are sitting. Vergil, grey haired already, in front of his father, who's a full-blooded demon. And Dante in front of Eva, who we're assuming is an Angel. I'd say there's some symbolism there.
And Sparda's face is cracked Woman in Black style. And there's a sort of circle around his head. Suspicious?
EDIT: Why is Eva the only one wearing black????
 
Vezild said:
The story does seem like it's taking a very generic take on the ol' BROTHERS UNITE theme. But if you realize there's other characters, and some other things going on...I mean all of the trailers before this one told different things, without mentioning Vergil. So the story could be very complex, beyond the BROTHERS UNITE theme. But it could also be generic, as you pointed out. From here, it's very hard to tell.

Now, Vergil's reveal didn't hit very hard, at all. At least to me. But the trailer did give me this eerie feeling. Right when Vergil showed his face, behind all of those shadows and dust. I'd bet that those things were put in there, not to hide his face (because it can clearly be seen), but to give him this suspicious look. Like there's something dark going on about him. Every time Vergil was shown, there was something disturbing lurking around...

I hope Vergil betrays Dante at one point, and doesn't go back for some sort of redemption until something like DmC 3 (there's a second already in the works right?). And hopefully, as you said, Vergil doesn't turn into just a foil to Dante.



On a different note, this picture...
tumblr_m8qvfoEUlT1rqc5wzo1_r1_1280-1-1.jpg


Notice how the mother has this creepy look, and that she almost fades into the background. And also notice where Dante and Vergil (well, assuming that's them) are sitting. Vergil, grey haired already, in front of his father, who's a full-blooded demon. And Dante in front of Eva, who we're assuming is an Angel. I'd say there's some symbolism there.
And Sparda's face is cracked Woman in Black style. And there's a sort of circle around his head. Suspicious?
EDIT: Why is Eva the only one wearing black????
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ARRGHHH! HOLY CRAP IT'S A BLOODY HALO!!!
...I didn' even thought of that. Thanks of mentioning.
I like the concept of making Eva more special and letting her heritage go running in Dante.
But phew, That was unexpected lol.
 
Agility and Azurel - what exactly is going on here?

Do. Not. Want.

It stops now.

Carry on, people.
 
DragonMaster2010 said:
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This is Sparda's human form in the original DMC. After he sealed his powers he took a human form.
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Okay, now let's see something else, Dante never knew His mother in this version, nor did he in the original. but in the original he had a picture of her face to remember her by. Now that he has a picture with his mom, Trish is a possible character for a potential sequel to this game.
 
mrrandomlulz said:
Okay, now let's see something else, Dante never knew His mother in this version, nor did he in the original. but in the original he had a picture of her face to remember her by. Now that he has a picture with his mom, Trish is a possible character for a potential sequel to this game.
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Hmmm...That could be the case.
 
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