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eeehhmmm...
....have you guys maybe considered that thoses arent hes real parents......:shifty:
....have you guys maybe considered that thoses arent hes real parents......:shifty:
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Well, there's also Kat's being captured which makes the situation more complicated but that still kind of makes it generic. In fact, I'm kind of disappointed in that. DMC's female characters (except Kyrie) have been pretty strong and can hold their own, so why did NT have to make Kat another DID? But then again, I would assume that it would be Dante's fault in some form, so I would like to see how this turns out. But really, though, this is really turning into a very generic story. I would hope that it would be alot more complex than what I'm taking it for.
Suspicions, suspicions.
What I dislike about this Vergil is that, without his ulterior motives, there's really not much that's interesting about his character.
On a different note, this picture...
Notice how the mother has this creepy look, and that she almost fades into the background. And also notice where Dante and Vergil (well, assuming that's them) are sitting. Vergil, grey haired already, in front of his father, who's a full-blooded demon. And Dante in front of Eva, who we're assuming is an Angel. I'd say there's some symbolism there.
And Sparda's face is cracked Woman in Black style. And there's a sort of circle around his head. Suspicious?
EDIT: Why is Eva the only one wearing black????
The crack on Sparda's is merely the result of whatever happened in the scene that Dante's standing in, carefully placed so that we don't see what he looks like.
The symbolism made in the picture is that Vergil is just like his father, who also tried rebelling from society, while Dante is just like his mother, who is seen as being sexually immoral.
And the better question is why is everyone else wearing white? The answer: because Dante and Vergil will do what their father tried to do, which is to try to change society, so they're all in the same boat and thus are symbolized by wearing the same color.
On another note, can I ask does anyone know what song is playing in the trailer?
darkslayer13
Enma Katana no Kami
What series are you taking about? You can't be taking about Devil May Cry because in Devil May Cry the lead female charicter gets captured and then rescued by the main charicter in 3 out of 4 of the games (4 out of 5 if you count DmC). So how exactly is it different when it happens to Kat (while we're on the subject what makes it different when it happens to Kyrie)
788Masri
I'm just some guy who really like Devil May Cry
in fairness here its more like dantes partner who happens to be a girl. we see her actively contributing in the game. by helping you manipulate limbo to even out the playing field, and directing you through its endless mazes to the objective/exit.. also it seems she was shot trying to protect Dante and Vergil so that adds guilt to it. dante feels responsible and can not bear to leave a partner to die at the hands of the demons. a sort of no man left behind thing.
In DMC 1, Trish fakes her capturing in order for Dante to be put in a trap. In DMC 2, Lucia gets captured after trying to fight Arius. You see, Trish isn't a DID in her case because there's no need for her to be rescued and Lucia isn't because she's a Bad@$$ in Distress, which is different from DiD because she's not really helpless. Kyrie is a serious DID because she's completely helpless and she needs to be saved in order for Nero to have a girlfriend. So my argument still stands. Whether Kat is an actual DiD is yet to be seen but it seems like she's heading in that direction because she's fitting the bill so far (helpless and needs to be saved). Hopefully, her powers might come in handy before Dante saves her.
But I believe the difference between her and Kyrie is that Kyrie was practically useless. Kat's actually pretty important.
Vezild
Taking Back Lordran One Boss At a Time
I'd wager there's more to the portrait than the obvious. And I have a feeling that's not even Dante's portrait, but maybe Vergil's.
In DMC 3, Vergil embraced his father's power, while Dante merely shunned it. I bet that this Dante and Vergil will be the same in a sense.
And the sexually immoral part threw me off...I don't think that's even important xD
Let's face it, man. The girls of DMC were put for fan service.
Sorry for quoting you twice, I'm not picking on you or anything. Your posts just...interested me :steve:
I believe it is Vergil's. I'm wondering why Dante's in it when he doesn't remember his parents? Most people say that this is Vergil's adoptive family but the black- haired kid looks alot like Dante.
Sort of, though it seems like Dante probably wouldn't think about his father alot.
That wasn't really my point. Eva was seen as being a whore, remember? She's neglected by society. Dante's in a similar situation. Thus it makes sense that Dante would sit in front of her. That's what I mean.
Not Trish and Lady, both were pretty important in their proper stories (excluding DMC 4 for obvious reasons).
Don't sweat it, you're complimenting me actually.
V's patron
be loyal to what matters
to be fair i think you might be preemptively judging Eva as sexually immoral given we know nothing of her other than she may be a angel.
just because people call you a whore, doesnt mean your a whore.
I'm not saying that she was sexually immoral, she is seen as that.
788Masri
I'm just some guy who really like Devil May Cry
yes, by demons. who as i imagine are not too happy with their most powerful general Sparda running off with an angel (which i asume dont like demons) so i wouldnt take the insults of your sworn enemy as true. just saying
I'll give you an example of a series that has had several reboots that all stayed true to the original back in the late 90's and early 2000's there was an anime series called "Tenchi Muyo" it was incredibly popular, but after the series was over there was a reboot or alternate universe called "Tenchi Universe" all the characters had the same personality, followed all the major events, the only thing different was the order and way tenchi met the girls, and that halfway through the series they went into space for more than just a fight someone on a ship that kidnapped one of his friends, I'm skimming over a lot of things but I got to go.
darkslayer13
Enma Katana no Kami
1.okay, so only half of the DMC girls got captured. that doesn't make my point any less valid. Being captured is not a new thing for Devil May Cry so saying that you are "dissapointed" about Kat being captured (and implying that she isn't as strong as the original series female charicters) is unreasonable.
2. It is also unreasonable to treat Kyrie being captured as worse than Lucia being captured. Lucia is an artificially created warrior with demonic power raised by a warrior who fought alongside the Legendary Dark Knight Sparda, she was literally created to fight. Kyrie is a singer and is closly connected to two skilled warriors who wouldn't ever consider letting her get within miles of a battlefield even if she wanted to. Which one of those should have been able to avoid being captured (hint it's not the one who has never been given a chance to fight.)
3. It also seems worth noting that dispite lacking any power or combat training Kyrie risked her life to save a small child from a demon that could have killed her in one hit ( personally i think that sounds way more badass than a nearly invincible half-demon killing something signifigantly weaker than him (also known as 90% of what Dante does)
Agility
"Known"
In the original, Dante knew his mother and his brother Vergil. For he lived with them both to the point where he remembers what was said. There's a high chance that there is more dialogue than the trailer leads on. So I'm betting once Dante grabs the picture, he figures out that Vergil is his brother and what his mother looks like.
Trish on the other hand, I don't want in this game. She's useless and was made useful for a love interest of Dante's. I'm okay with Kat, since she's way more useful and vital to their battle against Mundus. She serves as a medium, what the Hell would Trish be there for? Just to talk your head off? Ha ha, NO.
Oh, she looks like the mother Dante never knew. Oh great, oh goody, and oh...GTFO!
What would make sense is if Mundus got his hands on Kat, manipulated her and have Dante "rescue" her. Hey! Look at that! Trish's existence is there, she just looks like Dante's current love interest. Vergil winds up regretting helping Dante get her back for he knew something was amiss at the beginning and that their plan was an overall failure. With Limbo getting stronger and members of the Order being killed one by one. Vergil kills the one responsible for the end of his foundation; Kat. Because he has no other choice than to kill the main reason they're losing this battle. Of course! Dante argues that they can change her back but, we know what's best for everyone at this point; Vergil's way. When Vergil does this, Dante flips the **** out. They fall out there.
Mundus then strikes while they're weakened and...well...that's just my theory on how to put Trish in the game without actually putting her in the game.
NOW as for Lucia, I can see her being apart of the Order from the get go. Hidden behind one of those masks along with YOUNG NERO! Who we can see in a picture behind Vergil.
Trish on the other hand, I don't want in this game. She's useless and was made useful for a love interest of Dante's. I'm okay with Kat, since she's way more useful and vital to their battle against Mundus. She serves as a medium, what the Hell would Trish be there for? Just to talk your head off? Ha ha, NO.
Oh, she looks like the mother Dante never knew. Oh great, oh goody, and oh...GTFO!
What would make sense is if Mundus got his hands on Kat, manipulated her and have Dante "rescue" her. Hey! Look at that! Trish's existence is there, she just looks like Dante's current love interest. Vergil winds up regretting helping Dante get her back for he knew something was amiss at the beginning and that their plan was an overall failure. With Limbo getting stronger and members of the Order being killed one by one. Vergil kills the one responsible for the end of his foundation; Kat. Because he has no other choice than to kill the main reason they're losing this battle. Of course! Dante argues that they can change her back but, we know what's best for everyone at this point; Vergil's way. When Vergil does this, Dante flips the **** out. They fall out there.
Mundus then strikes while they're weakened and...well...that's just my theory on how to put Trish in the game without actually putting her in the game.
NOW as for Lucia, I can see her being apart of the Order from the get go. Hidden behind one of those masks along with YOUNG NERO! Who we can see in a picture behind Vergil.
1. I'm disappointed because I don't like it when a girl gets captured and is placed in a helpless situation. If she's going to get captured, I would like to be assured that she can get out on her own. That she's clever enough that, despite her obvious setbacks, she can get out of whatever little cage she's put in. Unless she is faced with a dilemma in which her freedom would cause severe consequences, I don't want to see her waste time sitting around (I had to watch an entire arc of Orihime doing that in Bleach). Kat was in a dazed state in the trailer, so she more than likely won't be able to do much for herself until she recovers, which is fine, but once she gets better, she better start movin' that tiny butt of her's!And I can easily say that she isn't as strong as the other female character because, unlike them, she has to run when things get crazy. Really, the only thing I need right now is to see her kick some demonic anus but I doubt I would be able see that until another trailer comes around.
2. Yes, Kyrie is worse because she is a stereotype. She's a powerless girl who gets captured and can't do anything for herself when placed in dangerous situations. Lucia, on the other hand, got caught for a good reason. She had a mission and she wanted to carry it out. Sure, it was her fault that she got captured, an act of utter rashness and immaturity on her part, but that's alot better than just being swept up off your feet.
3. Yes, I agree, her saving a kid is a wonderful act of compassion and humanity and shows that she has alot of courage but all that means jacksquat when she's completely helpless in the end. The fact is that she still needed to be saved. Now, if she grabbed the kid and ran before the demon attack touched her, that would've called for some applause.
Who said that I was taking it as true?
Actually, Trish had her use. For one, she was the reason Dante had any clue that Mundus was around. Second, without her, Dante would've been killed by Mundus.
Stylish Nero
We Dem Boys!!
Great are we going to argue about Kyrie here there is a Kyrie thread in the DMC4 section that is about this exact same topic take this conversation there.
No, we're arguing about the female characters in general.
Most of this stuff is an opinion debate, which makes the source material unimportant.
DragonMaster2010
Don't Let the Fall of America be Your Fall
There's a difference between DMC and Tenchi Muyo (Great show by the way back when it was on toonami^_^)
DMC isn't as popular or well thought out as Tenchi Muyo.