^^^what the hell? *must say something smart to overshadow that* I may be preachin to the choir here, but it seems to me that the BEST way to save DMC from Crapcom is to let PG do 5, seriously that'd be the greatest ever! *genius, Farmer*
or Team Ninjai say let SCE: Santa Monica take over...they are amazing with GoW
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I don't understand the whole appeal to the original story. Its inconsistent (especially Dante). Nothing about the story, except for the the first one, has any values. The only reason dmc3 seems like a good story is because of how good the combat it. Its been a new Dante in every DMC game. The only thing that stasy consistent is how many cheesey one liners Dante can say, and sometimes Dante just recycles the same lines. If DMC5 is going to be released in the future. Something needs to change for the better, and not just a bunch of plot hole fixer uppers. And which Dante would you like to see in DMC5? the first one? the second one? the 3rd one? or the ever so popular 4th one?
It really just seems like you miss white hair, red jackets, and kinda cool guy.
I'd rather watch Trigun again for a better brother vs brother story.
Not to mention any game/anime/book series that has been around for a while has an inconsistant story, to just dump it while it's incomplete while the fans are patiently waiting is irritating. All will be good and well with Nante fans untill he gets inconsistant and "disposable."
THERE ARE TWO DANTES ON THIS SCREEN....MY EYE STRAYS TO THIS ONE ------->
It really would not be that difficult to patch things up, as i've said before i've seen it done when it seemed damn near impossible.
Its very possible to patch up things in a different medium such as an anime/ manga. But with Video games they always have a bar/standers that they try to live up too (unlike DMC4) The thing that makes it innovative is having something new to talk about and a new path the protagonist ventures too, and it needs to expand the universe not just backtrack. You say u like good stories and so do i, but i would not want a game that takes place after DMC2 and have most of the dialog about the past and constantly trying to make sense of the entire series. Granted the series isn't very hard to follow in the first place, its just a lot of little things that have been left unanswered that really **** people off. Like Nero, or if Vergil is alive, or whether Dante is still in hell and a crap load of other things that just don't make sense.
Dante has been different in the games but for the most part he has always been Dante if you know what I mean.
I actually Don't know what you mean. In DMC1 that was, for me, who Dante is. DMC2 seemed more like a plug for Dante. DMC3 made him completely different, but he would still have the same oneliners. And DMC4 takes place after DMC1 so.... why the F is he so obnoxious?
And what guarentees that Nante will be the same in every game?
Thats something no one can answer. But if the game sells well at least the same voice actor could be hired again to make the sequel. Much like Uncharted series, or any other main character featured in a sequel on the new hardware these days. Infamous is one of those games that actually benefited by changing their main protagonists voice actor.
People say they don't want they same thing then they say they don't want something different so it's not like Nante is free from this. Nor is he free from "cheesy one liners" as many popular video game characters are not free of some kinda of corney cliche.
Im not saying the NeoDante is going to be completely free of cheesey one liners because he's already said "jack pot" But just in the little trailers we're seen so far, he can actually carry a conversation and actually have something interesting to say.
If they wanted to end DMC they should have just ended it, not made a different game with the same name.
DMC1 and 3 had good gameplay, but it is the story that does it for me and many others fans. Which is why the gameplay in this DmC is not a problem for me, you can change gameplay and one game and change it back in the next it is easily fixable. Im all about the story. I can walk into a gamestop and pick any other game that has decent gameplay but what sets it apart for me is the story and characters. It's more than just a red jacket and silver hair as many Nante fans seem to think.
Not to mention any game/anime/book series that has been around for a while has an inconsistant story, to just dump it while it's incomplete while the fans are patiently waiting is irritating. All will be good and well with Nante fans untill he gets inconsistant and "disposable."
Well hopefully this is why Capcom chose NT in the first place. Because NT can tell a decent story. Its yet to be seen whether or not they're stories have any continuity because they have yet to make a sequel. But if they do create a sequel to DmC, i'm sure it will stay within the lore of the first game than anything that Capcom could create.
Its very possible to patch up things in a different medium such as an anime/ manga. But with Video games they always have a bar/standers that they try to live up too (unlike DMC4) The thing that makes it innovative is having something new to talk about and a new path the protagonist ventures too, and it needs to expand the universe not just backtrack. You say u like good stories and so do i, but i would not want a game that takes place after DMC2 and have most of the dialog about the past and constantly trying to make sense of the entire series. Granted the series isn't very hard to follow in the first place, its just a lot of little things that have been left unanswered that really **** people off. Like Nero, or if Vergil is alive, or whether Dante is still in hell and a crap load of other things that just don't make sense.
I actually Don't know what you mean. In DMC1 that was, for me, who Dante is. DMC2 seemed more like a plug for Dante. DMC3 made him completely different, but he would still have the same oneliners. And DMC4 takes place after DMC1 so.... why the F is he so obnoxious?
Thats something no one can answer. But if the game sells well at least the same voice actor could be hired again to make the sequel. Much like Uncharted series, or any other main character featured in a sequel on the new hardware these days. Infamous is one of those games that actually benefited by changing their main protagonists voice actor.
Im not saying the NeoDante is going to be completely free of cheesey one liners because he's already said "jack pot" But just in the little trailers we're seen so far, he can actually carry a conversation and actually have something interesting to say.
And DMC4 takes place after DMC1 so.... why the F is he so obnoxious?
Was he really THAT obnoxious? o.o;
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Dude/Dudette All you did was play one of my favorate cutscenes. XD The only thing cowboy about his outfit was the bottom of his pants and his boots.Eh yeah kinda awkward he was overacting like a jerk and his cowboy costume sucked IMO
I mean just look at this >>
Eh yeah kinda awkward he was overacting like a jerk and his cowboy costume sucked IMO
I mean just look at this >>
In most fiction, (or at least the ones I have seen.) none of the characters are exactly the same, there is always some kind of change or development made. Excluding part 2 Dante has always been a smart mouthed rocker type, the only thing that really changes is his maturity. That personality was kept for 4 because DMC3 Dante had seemed to be the most successful. Storywise, I agree it doesn't make sense, but I would still prefer that to changing the whole series into something many of the fans didn't seem to want.
Dude/Dudette All you did was play one of my favorate cutscenes. XD The only thing cowboy about his outfit was the bottom of his pants and his boots.
Edit: Dante had a right to be an overacting jerk. The guy burnt down a whole village and surely would have killed people, Dante even offered him a chance to live.
Trust me, I was sitting around waiting for the next new game, 2 years ago. But my anticipation wasn't as big as it was when dmc4 was announced. I was happy to know Dante was the main man again and i was also happy that they wanted to tell the whole story again. Although now its known that DmC has nothing to do with DMC. I happen to think a new beginning wasn't all that bad. Although i still think DMC5 would be a fun game but what else is there? DMC1 covered all the bases. Is Dante gonna come back from hell and meet angels then? Prequels are only good if the main character drastically changes somehow and becomes who you seen and love. There's noone else, besides Sparda, that i'd like to see something of. And if Capcom can write a story around that then great! But i highly doubt that. Perhaps DmC will tell its own story instead.Id much rather have prequels and patch ups then to just have the story start all over again with changes that make it seem like a completely different game but with the same name. Whether it be something that fills a plothole or backtracks the story, technically it is still new. DMC3 was pretty new, despite it being a prequel.
DMC3 was a prequel that was loosely connected to DMC1. Yes Dante is younger and yes he meets his brother, but it wasn't like that in DMC1. The best thing about playing dmc through chronologically is dmc3 to dmc1 and that's only because, i think, they matured him well. But the story has holes and it doesn't make sense.
In most fiction, (or at least the ones I have seen.) none of the characters are exactly the same, there is always some kind of change or development made. Excluding part 2 Dante has always been a smart mouthed rocker type, the only thing that really changes is his maturity. That personality was kept for 4 because DMC3 Dante had seemed to be the most successful. Storywise, I agree it doesn't make sense, but I would still prefer that to changing the whole series into something many of the fans didn't seem to want.
And then their are people who don't mind something new and way out there. Basically the DMC series is only as big as it is, is because of gameplay. After DMC came out, everything was trying to imitate it. Or at least other games found a new way to play action/adventure and now its hack and slash.
I understand that Rueben played a good cocky narrow minded demon slayer but considering dmc1 and 2 already have his attitude laid out, why made him suddenly act goofier than he was when he was at his youngest? (to many dante's)
The same voice actor? Im not so sure about that, i've seen many sucessful voice actors kicked to the curve.
Maybe so, but the games i've played on my ps3, it seems they all have contracts, just like the movies, and they sign a 3 game deal or something.
I guess that really comes down to personal taste, (Then again, this all does.) honestly one of the reasons I liked Dante's taunting behaivor is because im tired of the serious heros all the time. Goku from DBZ could hardly hold a real conversation untill the world was about to end, but that didn't stop him from having a large fanbase. Plus I don't think Dante is given enough credit for how serious he does get. I've recently played DMC3 again and noticed that he does indeed get serious and ****ed off alot.
DMC3 is the best game overall, imo
I get what you're saying about the reboot to a point, but I hope you understand that when you're patiently sitting around waiting for a game that you love to come out with another only to find out that it's possibly rebooted after you've been so attached to what you already had despite its flaws. Not to mention I probably would have cared for Nero's character and given him a real chance if they just would have just explained some s**t and where the fudge he came from. I really think it would have been far more simple then the developers let on.
sure it is. But u need to ask Capcom thatIf ever..like I said in one of the other threads...Mother of Prequels.
I actually want to see a story made based on Sparda's time. Is that not possible?
Trust me, I was sitting around waiting for the next new game, 2 years ago. But my anticipation wasn't as big as it was when dmc4 was announced. I was happy to know Dante was the main man again and i was also happy that they wanted to tell the whole story again. Although now its known that DmC has nothing to do with DMC. I happen to think a new beginning wasn't all that bad. Although i still think DMC5 would be a fun game but what else is there? DMC1 covered all the bases. Is Dante gonna come back from hell and meet angels then? Prequels are only good if the main character drastically changes somehow and becomes who you seen and love. There's noone else, besides Sparda, that i'd like to see something of. And if Capcom can write a story around that then great! But i highly doubt that. Perhaps DmC will tell its own story instead.
sure it is. But u need to ask Capcom that
If only hideki kamiya didn't leave then this wouldn't happen.
Ahhh imagining hideki kamiya and hideaki itsuno working together for a new DMC or the reboot.Now that sounds awesome,for me at least.