Dante's DT

[GamblingGambitCloud]

No...Devil trigger means demon form. That's why it's called Devil Trigger. It's boosted state but the fact it's called Devil Trigger hints that you trigger a devil. If it's just power boost without any transformation they can just call it "Power boost". But it's called DT - i wonder why...


Well they can change the term for the power boost we see in DmC with white hair and red jacket. More appropriate to call it "Dante trigger" in that case
And it seems they haven't planned a demon form.

They said DEVIL because it sounded cool and fit in with the game...when they say Rage of the Gods in GoW, you think the gods come down and use their own fury? NO!...it's a heightened state of power and is the same thing in DMC

 

[CoolDemon]

They said DEVIL because it sounded cool and fit in with the game...when they say Rage of the Gods in GoW, you think the gods come down and use their own fury? NO!...it's a heightened state of power and is the same thing in DMC

Let me think:
Kratos who is half human-half god. Killed Ares and became God of War.
You earned a technique gameplay wise called "Rage of the Gods".
Do i think Zeus, Aprhodide, Athena, Hera, etc will appear and smite the enemies? No.
Do i think Kratos will transform into Zeus or a other god? No.
Is Kratos god of war? Yes.
What does that mean? It's a technique.


Does it make sense that Dante a half demon half human should look like a demon? Yes.
How is it done? Through Devil trigger.
Does a demon look like the Devil? Yes, search "Devil" and compare pictures of people portraying the Devil with DMC Devil triggers and demons.

If a character is half human- half wolf = a werewolf. Is it more right to make him achieve a heightened state gameplaywise but no transform into a werewolf? No.
The transformation grants the power.

Of course DT is a heightened state. But that heightened state is provided by the demonic blood in Dante.
If it's not provided by the demon blood Dante has in his veins. Then what is providing it?
They called it "Devil trigger" to make it sound cool? I guess they called also the game "DEvil May Cry" to make it sound cool, and it has nothing with fact the game is about demons.


If a demon is just a human looking creature then why is all the demons in DMC devil looking?


Your logic that it's just a heightened state and that's only point of Devil trigger is flawed.

 

[GamblingGambitCloud]

by that logic, is Dante still half demon? yes
Does he have demon powers? Yes
Will there be important elements in the story that amplify his demonic abilities? Major possibility

But by your logic, sir, DT makes perfect sense.

 

[CoolDemon]

by that logic, is Dante still half demon? yes
Does he have demon powers? Yes
Will there be important elements in the story that amplify his demonic abilities? Major possibility

But by your logic, sir, DT makes perfect sense.

Are you talking about DmC DT now or DT in general?

 

[chocolatepanda]

Well Nero also had a DT but his physical appearance didn't change. Also other demons in DMC did have DTs as well but they didnt change forms so DT can just be considered a state of heightened power which for DMC Dante resulted in a physical transformation.

 

[GamblingGambitCloud]

DT, DmC, DMC, everything....by your logic, it still works...just because he doesn't turn INTO demon does not mean he is not half demon...Kratos doesn't turn into a god every time he is in Rage of Gods...doesn't turn into titan in Rage of Titans...in fact, the only game where he was considered a "god" while having that capability to go into that mode is GoW: Ghost of Sparta...so either way, they must be held to the same standard.

 

[CoolDemon]

Well Nero also had a DT but his physical appearance didn't change. Also other demons in DMC did have DTs as well but they didnt change forms so DT can just be considered a state of heightened power which for DMC Dante resulted in a physical transformation.

Nero is hard to understand as his background wasn't fully explained. But i heard Nero is a descedent of Sparda, and it seems that he used Yammato (Vergil's sword) to activate a demonic kind of power. Sparda sealed his powers in a sword. And that sword Arkham accessed. I guess it's kinda same thing with Nero.
But did Nero change somewhat?

A demon ghost and demon red eyes. Yes, Nero underwent a transformation. Although not one that changed most of his appearance but one that is shown with the ghost.

All the demons in DMC had DT just for same reason Trish had DT. To make them stronger. It's a gameplay thing.
Dante's DT makes sense because it's given to him because of his demon bloods. His demon form is awakened, and he becomes more powerful. That is why it's called Devil trigger.

Of course the idea is to make you get a boost. But that boost is sourced from a transformation.

7:33 Power boost followed by a transformation.

 

[GamblingGambitCloud]

again, by your logic, this new DT is fine then because Dante's appearance changes and his demon blood is awakened

 

[CoolDemon]

again, by your logic, this new DT is fine then because Dante's appearance changes and his demon blood is awakened

No. All the appearance changes that has happened Nero, Vergil, Arkham, Dante and god knows who else are ALL demonic looking. White hair and red jacket is demonic? No.
The white hair is reference to the stories in Japanese culture of white hair indicating that one is possessed by a demon. But does that mean that it has anything with DMC story ? No.
Dante isn't possessed. And his power originates from Sparda. And the white hair is a genetic thing. Nero is supposedly a descedent of Sparda - he has white hair.

 

[GamblingGambitCloud]

you take things way too literal...it's symbolic of his demonic heritage...just like Nero's red eyes are symbolic...because if we took the literal meaning of his eyes, it could mean a ****ton of things: he is a stoner, he's albino, he opened his eyes underwater, he has contacts, something flew in his eye and he rubbed it out, etc.

 

[CoolDemon]

you take things way too literal...it's symbolic of his demonic heritage...just like Nero's red eyes are symbolic...because if we took the literal meaning of his eyes, it could mean a ****ton of things: he is a stoner, he's albino, he opened his eyes underwater, he has contacts, something flew in his eye and he rubbed it out, etc.

No, i am understanding it the way should be understood. Dante is half demon half human.

A human looks like this in DMC:
http://images.wikia.com/devilmaycry/images/6/6f/Kyrie.jpg

A demon looks like this in DMC:
http://anime-wallpapers.com/images/800x600/devil-may-cry-demon.jpg

This is Dante's human form:
http://images.wikia.com/devilmaycry/images/0/01/MarCap3Dante.png
This is his demon form:
http://images.wikia.com/devilmaycry/images/b/bd/DT_MajinForm.jpg

And this is his fathers demon form:
http://images.wikia.com/devilmaycry/es/images/7/78/SpardaDT.jpg

 

[chocolatepanda]

The whole the white hair is a genetic thing doesnt really apply to DmC since we don't know what Sparda looks like. But how do explain Credo and Agnus using DT while they are in their demonic forms or any demon in DMC?

 

[CoolDemon]

The whole the white hair is a genetic thing doesnt really apply to DmC since we don't know what Sparda looks like. But how do explain Credo and Agnus using DT while they are in their demonic forms or any demon in DMC?

I haven't played DMC 4. But Agnus summoned demons and harvested their souls/power.
Bottomline DMC 4 characters used demons to achieve demonic transformation.

DT is a gameplay concept of Dante, Nero and Vergil achieving a demonic transformation and with that getting powerful. Trish is 100% demon, and Mundus shaped her to be like a human. But because she is a demon despite human appaearnace she still has demonic powers. The DT that Trish has is just a power boost.

The demons in DMC go into a DT for difficulty sake. That is why playing DMC on hard makes them go into DT = a power boost. But that has NOTHING with the story to do.Just like how Trish goes DT but doesn't transform.
The demons in DMC go into DT only during gameplay. Because it has nothing to do with the story, and that is also because they are just receiving a power boost caused by difficulty selected.

However, Dante's DT is tied to story and is known as "demon form".

 

[chocolatepanda]

You cant really just say that the DT that the other demons have is just for difficulty sake DT is just an overall power boost. If it wasn't then all the other demons in the DMC series would have a DT it would've been called something else.

 

[CoolDemon]

You cant really just say that the DT that the other demons have is just for difficulty sake DT is just an overall power boost. If it wasn't then all the other demons in the DMC series would have a DT it would've been called something else.

Fortuna Order of Sword demon transformations:
Agnus has secretly created an army of demon infuse warriors and several Hell-Gates across Fortuna under the orders of Sanctus himself. But what's more, he has been imbuing Order of the Sword Members with the demonic energy turning them into demons, explaining the demons Dante had killed. Using this power he has ressurrected Sanctus who appears to be the mastermind of these events.

Devil Trigger state demons get during Gameplay:
When playing on higher difficulties, enemies can enter a Devil Trigger-like state[1] after a certain time limit (which is fixed for each enemy). This causes enemies to strengthen their attributes as well as making them attack more often and more powerful.

 

[chocolatepanda]

Ok ill admit you got me there and just to make things clear you're saying that the reason Dante Transforms is because he's half human right?

 

[CoolDemon]

Ok ill admit you got me there and just to make things clear you're saying that the reason Dante Transforms is because he's half human right?

Dante transforms because he is the son of sparda. Because he has demonic blood in his veins. And since he's son of a human and a demon he has two forms. A human and a demon.

Trish DT is JUST a power boost. Dante and Vergil's DT are not just a power boost. It's connected to the story.
But then again Trish was created by Mundus to be a demon with human body. So if Mundus created a demon looking Trish rest assure she would look like any other demon.

And since demons are demons - they are already in their true form. As Devil May Cry wiki says that demons go DT when you play on higher difficulties.

 

[mrrandomlulz]

you know because of his short hair and angry attitude you know what would make a great devil trigger for DmC Dante

 

[chocolatepanda]

And since he's son of a human and a demon he has two forms. A human and a demon.

This doesnt really apply anymore since DmC Dante is half angel/demon.

And since demons are demons - they are already in their true form.

Sparda has a demon form and a human form even though he's 100% demon. Did he get a human form because he sealed his power or did he have it from the beginning?

 

[mrrandomlulz]

Stop the arguing i posted that to give everybody a good laugh and stop arguing