Ironically Frieza been a joke to me since he came back as purple and golden blow pop.
Same. The dude was barely SSJ level when he died, and then he manages to match God Ki level of power by just training for four months? Yeah, right. And then DBS: Broly comes along, where he wants to collect the Dragon Balls to become slightly taller (what in the actual...) and where he serves as the comic relief when he's alone vs Broly.
Similarly to Vegeta in the OG Broly movie, he's so out of character here. At first you'd think that murdering Paragus in cold blood is pretty Frieza-like, but he does so to trigger a Super Saiyan transformation. Bullshit, he'd never do that on purpose. Even if the Saiyan in question was doing his interests.
Also I find nothing relatable about this new Brol
Not saying it's some masterpiece cause it's not but at the very least he's got something more to him than just wanting to destroy anything in his sight. He's got a sense of justice and unlike the old Broly, while sharing the same trait of being puppet to his father, the new one at least has this dichotomy of the borderline blind obedience to Paragus and his own moral sense which makes him endearing to watch act even outside of just fighting. Nothing special, again, but already a step above what was previously just DB' Hulk, but without the Bruce Banner.
I find the part about the action and fights funny since I feel like thier more akin to Bay-plosion where crap becomes hard to follow.
Didn't find it hard to follow at all. It's crisp as heck with the animation quality to support the choreography. And Michael Bay-esque spectacle is still better than no spectacle. Watching the old movie, I was wishing it'd end quickly with how tired I was of seeing big muscle man tossing Ki peas at people. What a waste of a cool loking character design.
Vegeta acting that way makes total sense when you rememeber that he's the only one that cares about there saiyan history since he was raised into it for majority of his life unlike Goku, Gohan, and Trunks who all had earthly upbringings.
It really doesn't. Not only he wasn't
nearly as broken when he thought Goku was the legendary Super Saiyan back on Namek, but he himself attained and surpassed the SSJ form by that time (through SSJ 2nd grade, or Super Vegeta, or whatever you wanna call it). And last but not least, it's Vegeta we're talking about. It's not like him to sit still while the "low level Saiyan" Goku gives his all, even IF the enemy is that powerful. The movie itself remembers this and makes him spell it out loud, which finally prompts him into action, only to then make him fall back into silly depression and apathy at the first knockdown he gets. And then of course they remember about his pride again at the end to have him refuse to give his energy to Goku for the sake of building some fake tension for the final ass-pull.
Also, this whole Vegeta turning into a... vegetable thing goes against the very premise of this plot. Paragus asks Vegeta to eliminate the legendary Super Saiyan straight up. Vegeta knew he was going up against that from the beginning.
Yes lol at Paragus over powering a Broly that was sleeping and vaguely unaware of his presence
He wasn't. He woke up and was well aware of his presence, he even called him out and was seen struggling as Paragus was trying to put the thing on him.
I'd say the original has many redeeming qualities that's simply over-looked due to fandom group think.
Well that doesn't apply to me. I only watched the movie twice in my whole life, once as a kid and once now. And I had good memories of it so if anything, I should have been forgiving because of nostalgia. But no, I was actually blown away by how bad it was in almost every single aspect. Imo, the only really good things it's got going on for itself are Broly's design and some of the atmosphere permeating the whole thing at times (man, the more I talk about this movie the more it sounds like the DMC2 of DB). But that's not nearly enough to save it.
DBS: Broly could have been just as bad (it IS just as bad narratively, imo), if it didn't have its saving graces in a slightly better iteration of the titular character, and vastly more entertaining action.
