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If from what i've read from wikia is true then i'm REALLY PI$$ED !

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This movie was supposed to have the old serious DBZ movie theme BUT toriyama ****ing screwed everything up !

Bills original Concept is Awesome he was supposed to be the God who made the saiyan race for what they are now he made them lust for power and fights.. and that could've answered so many questions and he was supposed to look like a creepy lizard man or something now he's just a "Random" opponent out of nowhere

Having someone like that in the story gives a totally new perspective where SSJ's are finally weak

People were saying that "OH Toriyama is getting involved he's gonna make this movie KICK ASS!" instead he just ended up making it more like Dragon ball then actually DBZ !

This movie was supposed to be SERIOUS and BADASS instead it just ends up being a tepid, predictable DBZ movie WTF ?

I think we all can kiss DBZ goodbye if they just keep coming up with horrible OVA's and Movies like these..

it just adds EVEN MORE PLOTHOLES !

Wasn't son goku&return of friends enough already ? why do we need more of this childish garbage ?
 
If from what i've read from wikia is true then i'm REALLY PI$$ED !

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Whoa, whoa, and WHOA! Slow down their cowboy. ALways take Wiki info with a grain of salt unless it uses a valid source as proof.
Now while its true BoG went through a couple of idea drafts Toriyama wanted a happy ending movie. Japan had a Tsunami not to long ago and it efected everything over there. For example current Super Sentai and Kamen Rider shows while containing great stories all contain VERY happy characters with a planned happy ending outcome I'm sure. Its to make the children happy to give them HOPE. Toriyama took this same drive while creating BoG.
Plus only on the Western World has seen this film, how can we judge anything about it without seeing it?
Also Hello Toriyama created Dragon Ball remember Kid Goku fighting folks with a pole and riding a cloud, it was goofy and a magical adventure so BoG contains a little DB flavor. Which is awesome because DB is fantastic.
 
ALways take Wiki info with a grain of salt unless it uses a valid source as proof
Well it had a source of Yūsuke Watanabe's Interview it also found on Daizenshuu its pretty obvious that the original scriptwriter wanted to make this movie more akin to serious DBZ movies and Toriyama came and screwed it all up.
Now while its true BoG went through a couple of idea drafts Toriyama wanted a happy ending movie
what does that have to do with scrapping bill's backstory completely ? they can still make it dramatic and end it with a happy note
Japan had a Tsunami not to long ago and it efected everything over there
and yet they keep killing Whales and keep making the sickest porn on the internet. what does that have to do with DBZ being DBZ anyway ? it was always brutal,over the top and fast paced.
For example current Super Sentai and Kamen Rider shows while containing great stories all contain VERY happy characters with a planned happy ending outcome I'm sure. Its to make the children happy to give them HOPE.Toriyama took this same drive while creating BoG
WHOA whoa ! I'll stop you right there see DBZ isn't some anime based on some charity or memorial so it doesn't need to compromise anything !

We fans have waited for like 10 freaking years and everything that came stapled with the name "DBZ" has only disappointed us DBGT then kai and these stupid OVA's and now this a final nail the coffin and the matter of fact is that a film this lame wouldn't even do better than DB Evolution.
can we judge anything about it without seeing it?
Well i did watch all the clips available online and read through the whole story like 15 times and boy i have no intentions of watching this movie in English.
Also Hello Toriyama created Dragon Ball remember Kid Goku fighting folks with a pole and riding a cloud, it was goofy and a magical adventure so BoG contains a little DB flavor. Which is awesome because DB is fantastic
I love Dragon ball and DBZ BUT I DO NOT WANT A MIX OF THEM. it would only result in GT

they can't mix either have Dragon ball or DBZ you can't have villains who can destroy the entire quadrant of the universe and still go with the goofy themes.

I want more of this >

NOT THIS :-
 
Speaking of Battle of Gods

Super Saiyan God? IT'S ****ING KAIOKEN! IT'S ****ING KAIOKEN! IT'S ****ING KAIOKEN!!!!
 
I don't know if you're being sarcastic or serious, but that is a way better design than a recycled Kaio-ken

No I'm being serious lol.

Not sure where you got the idea that I may be using sarcasm, but that design clearly would have been better in my opinion.
 
Yea, it was to bad that Toriyama insisted that he look like that.

I would have liked this design MUCH better

Not sure how this would make any difference.. it just looks like SSJ4 Goku with golden fur.

There was no need for a "Super saiyan level 12345" its just stupid and redundant.

Why can't Goku do the Final Flash.
Why can't Vegeta use instant transmission
Vegito can do both.
I'm simply saying the artificial blutz wave technique is a brilliant idea & you are refusing to admit it.
so is special beam canon,kamehameha,tri beam and tons of other techniques but no one needs to say that its "Brilliant" its just DBZ
And all the ocean dubbed did was gave a Saiyan credit for it & you insulted it because it's not how the manga was written.
They altered the original dialog to something else which makes it completely irrelevant.
So i declare it's a brilliant technique & the Saiyan that first used & mastered it is a genius for bringing it to the Saiyan race.
Speculate as you please.
 
Well it had a source of Yūsuke Watanabe's Interview it also found on Daizenshuu its pretty obvious that the original scriptwriter wanted to make this movie more akin to serious DBZ movies and Toriyama came and screwed it all up.
what does that have to do with scrapping bill's backstory completely ? they can still make it dramatic and end it with a happy note and yet they keep killing Whales and keep making the sickest porn on the internet. what does that have to do with DBZ being DBZ anyway ? it was always brutal,over the top and fast paced. WHOA whoa ! I'll stop you right there see DBZ isn't some anime based on some charity or memorial so it doesn't need to compromise anything !

We fans have waited for like 10 freaking years and everything that came stapled with the name "DBZ" has only disappointed us DBGT then kai and these stupid OVA's and now this a final nail the coffin and the matter of fact is that a film this lame wouldn't even do better than DB Evolution.
Well i did watch all the clips available online and read through the whole story like 15 times and boy i have no intentions of watching this movie in English.
I love Dragon ball and DBZ BUT I DO NOT WANT A MIX OF THEM. it would only result in GT

they can't mix either have Dragon ball or DBZ you can't have villains who can destroy the entire quadrant of the universe and still go with the goofy themes.

I want more of this >




But Beers has a backstory he is the "God of Destruction" a god higher than Grand Supreme Kai. A God so high up that he has "God Ki" He's the only one him in the DBZ Universe. Each of the 7 Universes have one God of Destruction. He destroyed most of King Kai's home world and than slept while dreaming of fighting a being called "Super Saiyan God". Beers job is to destroy period. He's like Kid Buu with a brain.
What does Japan making odd porn have to do with a national crisis?! Porn has no limits, normal TV geared towards children does. The Super Sentai and Kamen Rider Series are not charity or a anime, or memorial something. Toei company ever heard of it? Its the company that makes DB stuff it also makes SS and KR programs! KR and SS have been around longer than Dagon Ball, its cultural!
After Ultraman, Kamen Rider(s) are the second biggest superhero in Japan! So if these shows were watered down a little so will Dragon Ball. DBKai had a lot of the blood toned down for censership reasons.
Reading a good detailed summary and watching a few clips is NOT a valid excuse to hate this film. Dragon Ball and Z are the same thing! Z had goofy stuff like DB and in truth the filler made the battles a lot longer than they actually are!
Your comparing Beers to Kid Buu who was a brainless idiot?! Cell was a slave to Dr. Gero's program to become perfect, than before Gohan kills him he realizes "hey I can do whatever the hell I like, I'll destroy the universe!" >_<

Your points are invalid period.
 
> He is the "God of Destruction"
> A god higher than Grand Supreme Kai.
> A God so high up that he has "God Ki"
> He destroyed most of King Kai's home world and than slept while dreaming of fighting a being called "Super Saiyan God". > Beers job is to destroy period. He's like Kid Buu with a brain.
Err.. I suppose all that bullsh!t translates to "Random Enemy with MOAR POWER"

Rather an enemy with a solid backstory like someone who induced the saiyans to be evil and violent and someone who spreads chaos around the galaxy by making powerful mutants like freiza that would be more awesome than this stupid "GOD" gimmick which was an EPIC fail from the get go.
What does Japan making odd porn have to do with a national crisis?! Porn has no limits, normal TV geared towards children does.
Then what does DBZ has to do with national crisis ? DBZ is just a fighting anime let it be what it is ! and it is a movie not even a TV series so they could've easily gone for a more serious tone.
After Ultraman, Kamen Rider(s) are the second biggest superhero in Japan! So if these shows were watered down a little so will Dragon Ball. DBKai had a lot of the blood toned down for censership reasons.
those shows are silly anyway.. DBZ BOG is a theatrical release and i suppose its PG so they can show all the blood&violence as they please.
Reading a good detailed summary and watching a few clips is NOT a valid excuse to hate this film.
Yes it is because i've already seen how much the fights suck and how much the plot sucks.
Your comparing Beers to Kid Buu who was a brainless idiot?! Cell was a slave to Dr. Gero's program to become perfect, than before Gohan kills him he realizes "hey I can do whatever the hell I like, I'll destroy the universe!"
What's the difference ? he's just another random character with an insane amount of power up except Kid buu compensated all that by putting up an awesome fight and being badass.
Dragon Ball and Z are the same thing! Z had goofy stuff like DB and in truth the filler made the battles a lot longer than they actually are!
Dragon ball is a raunchy spoof series based on journey to the west.
DBZ Is High intensity fighting,Xplosions with Badass enemies and heroes

DBZ > Dragon ball
Your points are invalid period.
even if they are you just failed to prove them wrong Ah man all this fanboy drivel is putting me sleep.
 
Its funny how i haven't even watched the movie and it already is seeping of plot-holes XD

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(she doesn't even look like 4 weeks pregnant)
Can someone tell me how the hell is a 1 week Fetus considered a pure hearted "Saiyan" ? IT DOESN'T EVEN HAVE ORGANS ! WTF !?

And WHATEVER happened to BULLA !

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You're telling me that SHE IS NOT a half saiyan !? *cough* that could only mean one thing.. bulma's a dirty cheater !!

Not to mention that she was not even in the MOVIE XD even though she's supposed to be like 5 years older than Pan.

And even bigger question arises that why the hell is goku excited to fight Uub when he has fought a God earlier ? is his memories bleak or what ?

Wait a minute.... if pan is supposed to be born right now.. then why THE HELL IS SHE JUST 4 in the 28th martial arts tournament (which is supposed to be like 10 years after the defeat of buu)?
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and you can't even say that its exactly placed 4 years before 10th tournament either because Goten&Trunks are STILL 7&8 year olds !! WUT !?
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this is how trunks should look like if he's 14
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toriyama why ? such p!ss-poor writing ?
 
Wasn't somebody here wondering when (Kid) Trunks learned the Kamehameha? I can't recall, but (Kid) Trunks performed the move three times in Bio-Broly hence why he used the attack in DBGT.
 
Wasn't somebody here wondering when (Kid) Trunks learned the Kamehameha? I can't recall, but (Kid) Trunks performed the move three times in Bio-Broly hence why he used the attack in DBGT.
Kamehameha is an exclusive technique for the turtle pupil.

Trunks cannot use kamehameha.