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Majin Buu learned it by watching SS3 Goku, your point is incorrect.
Trunks firing a kamehameha is the equivalent of Vegeta using 100XKaio-ken he never learned those techniques in the DBZ canon and in GT he never really trained so how come he randomly can use that ? Non-canon powers that's how !

Trunks in GT looks like a metrosexual submissive coward XD his fight with 17 was... LAME

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(i've seen better Fanarts.) <<<
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(future Trunks is slick like a motherfucker)
 
Vegeta could learn Kaio-Ken if he wanted its not a exclusive technique. Same thing with Kamehameha.
GT Trunks isn't supposed to be like Future Trunks. He grew up in a whole different way.

Donte you are not fun to talk to at all. I say right you say super left. VampireWicked was more sensible. Where is he?
 
What does Vegeta creating his own moves have to do with LEARNING Kaio-Ken if he so chooses?
Your upset because Kid Trunks a spoiled brat grew up to be a corporate running man who can fire a Kamehameh? A technique almost everyone has performed at some point and time?! Have you forgotten that GT Trunks was sought out by women at work?! They drooled over him! Plus GT Trunks can obtain SS3 in Dragon Ball Heroes. GT Trunks is pretty cool all things considered.


Why aren't you mad that Krilin launched Goku's Spirit Bomb or Kid Gohan and Future Gohan performing Special Beam Cannon? Yeah GT has problems but its not as bad as folks make it out to be.
 
What does Vegeta creating his own moves have to do with LEARNING Kaio-Ken if he so chooses?
That goes against his character his staunch arrogance&Pride would never let him do that.
Your upset because Kid Trunks a spoiled brat grew up to be a corporate running man who can fire a Kamehameh?
No i just don't think Trunks would ever mind to learn that technique in the first place and according to the manga he never did (which is the ONLY Canon and reliable source of Dragon ball/Dragonball Z)
Have you forgotten that GT Trunks was sought out by women at work?! They drooled over him!
I thought he was a woman
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Plus GT Trunks can obtain SS3 in Dragon Ball Heroes.
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last time i checked he was future Trunks.
GT Trunks is pretty cool all things considered
Cool ? He wears metrosexual clothes,doesn't have the spunk he had as a kid and he is just downright pathetic in terms of fighting what's so "cool" about him ?
Why aren't you mad that Krilin launched Goku's Spirit Bomb or Kid Gohan
Because Goku just passed an already complete energy ball to Krillin he never used the technique himself.
Future Gohan performing Special Beam Cannon?
Because he was trained by Piccolo in the future after Goku died so it makes 100% sense that he uses Piccolo's fighting style and techniques EVEN then he only does it in the games which are non-canon.
Yeah GT has problems but its not as bad as folks make it out to be.
it has SO many problems

> The Story elemtens are so unoriginal and is ripped off from DBZ&Dragon ball
> Every other character except goku have been dumped by Writers of GT
> Goku acts like a kid for no apparent reason he's like a 60 year old in a kid's body
> Every single fight is so poorly animated and paced that it makes every character look weaker than Raditz and Nappa (some fights in DBZ were kinda underwhelming but most of them had hard hitting and fluid animation and mass destruction around and it lacks blood too)
> Inconsistent Power levels:Kid goku mentions that general dildo is stronger than MAJIN BUU and yet goku beats him at SSJ1 that MEANS SSJ1 Kid goku is AS STRONG AS A SSJ 3 ? LOL
> Plethora of plot-holes.. just too many to count

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For starters let's start from the fact that it shows cooler in one episode (and that movie has its own set of plot-holes)

Shadow dragon shouldn't EVEN EXIST... i mean they were "Overusing" The dragon balls from the very first underwear wish ?? you kidding me ?

another thing why the HECK the creator of the DB doesn't know ANYTHING ABOUT "Overusing" them ?

and the only cool dragon was Shadow Shenron others were just Loony toons at least shadowshenron was like a deranged sarcastic version of the good dragon other's don't even have a personality. omega is just "MAAAAAAAAAAH Goku SMASH!" "WAAAA i'm defeated"
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Pilaf is EVIL so how come he's revived by Dragon Balls when Kid buu destroyed the EARTH ? oh how did he even find his way to the tower ? he's so DUMB

and besides HOW STUPID IS PICCOLO To leave THE WHOLE SET OF Black star Balls together in a place reachable for any stupid clown ? shouldn't he like scatter them around the galaxy ?
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Yemma couldn't make piccolo go to HELL just once BUT he allowed vegeta&goku to do that in the past why is he racist to PICCOLO!?

Why THE FU*K did piccolo need to die ? he could've just destroyed one those Black star dragon balls !

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JUST WHY ON earth is GOKU who's strong enough to KILL 'effin KID Buu having trouble with insects around the galaxy ? IT MAKES NO SENSE ! SSJ Trunks should be more than enough to start a war against the whole planet he's on !
Its like saying if guldo uses his time-slowing technique onSSJ4 gogeta it would still work
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Gohan lets his 8 yr old daughter(Who can't even go ssj) to a trip around the FREAKING GALAXY !! LOL WUT ?? gohan you sure are even worse of a father than goku and he can't fight general dildo who looks weaker than dabura.

Goku is OVERPOWERED TO THE MAX
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Why was Goku at SSj1 ABLE To fight SUPER 17 But Trunks,Vegeta,Gohan,goten COULDN'T ?

OKAY i can buy that All the untrained saiyans can LOSE to Super 17 BUT WHY THE FU*K ON EARTH UUB SO WEAK !? he should've one shotted Super 17

1# He was trained by Goku for years !
2# He IS AS STRONG AS KID Buu&Fat Buu Combined means even more stronger than a FULLPOWERED SSJ3 !

SO WHY ON EARTH IS HE SO WEAAAAAAAAAAAAK !?

GT just ended up being a lowbrow DragonBall without the explicit crude humor and clever writing.
At least in DBZ every side character got their own time to shine and goku wasn't regarded as the second coming of Jesus Christ seriously GT is deplorable and disgusting !
 
By that logic Vegeta would not have resorted to Fusion, but he did twice! During the Battle with Kid Buu and during Battle of Gods Vegeta cast aside his pride to say that Goku was better and to protect Earth from Beers. I've already proven that Kid Trunks can perfrom the Kamehameha and you can't change that fact Mr. Manga is true source. (God you sound like the folks at Kanzenshuu ugh!)
Cloud from FF7 dressed like a chick why not bash him?! Trunks did it to save a girl, I've also proven that girls wanted GT Trunks. Watch the beginning of DBGT.

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-PBtakZD8uHM/T3CHac10t-I/AAAAAAAAESo/Jjnwraos13Y/s1600/GTTrunks.jpg You were saying? :cool:

Their is nothing wrong with GT Trunks outfit. IfGohan can learn the SBC so Trunks can learn Kamehameha.


Of course its ripped from DB/Z, it IS Dragon Ball duh! Not true, Pan got as much screen time as Goku did. Son Goku has always acted like a child even as a adult! Goku was happy to be a kid again and he acted like his normal self, a kid.
GT has slow fights but at least its not a bunch of air explosions like Z is. -_-

RILLDO dude, he was as strong as Majin Buu but he fought Goku at different modes, his ultimate form beat Goku.

Big deal, Cooler a fan favorite makes a cameo! God strike Toei for placing a cameo!

The Namiks didn't even know about overusing the Dragon Balls! Only Old Kai, a god which makes sense! Dende is not bright like Kami.

The Shadow Dragons were a colorful cast with different personalities which made them great, I'm tired of seeing Cell and Broly like characters. The Shadow Dragons were a breath a fresh air. Freeza wanted to control all, Cell and Kid Buu wanted to destory everything, what makes them different from Omega?

Maybe Pilaf was good during the Kid Buu saga? I got nothing for that one, I honestly don't care. I was happy to see the little dude again.

By that Logic why didn't Kami destroy the Black Star Dragon Balls? They wanted to kill off Piccolo and make it all dramitc with the hell plot? It is a plot hole but I don't care because it was fun to watch Piccolo cause havic in Heaven! :D

Guildo's time stopping would work on anyone period. SO you wanted SS3 Goku (who couldn't maintian the form for long without a tial) to kick up doors and kick ass basically? That's not fun but boring. GT was a DB style adventure through space, not a fight fest dude. Enjoy the wackyness of it.

Pan hid on board the ship and Gohan couldn't stop her cuz the ship left Earth duh!


MajUub was stronger than a SS3 but not a SS4. Super 17 was stronger than a SS3 and Ultimate Gohan so way Uub lost. SS4 is way above SS3.

Or really? Yamcha, Tien, Chaotzu, Bulma, Oolong, Roshi, Launch, Chi-chi and many others were pushed aside by Super Saiyan everyone! GT is not disgusting or deplorable. Why are you using those words to describe a cartoon?!

You know what the back of the DBGT Complete Series box set says about it? "Dragon Ball GT is a fun ride" animenewsnetwork.com And that's exactly what GT is.
 
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ALSO LESS DB/Z/GT/KAI/MOVIES ANYTHING YOUTUBE VIDEOS. NO MORE THAN TWO.
 
Well pure of heart doesn't mean pure good because someone with pure evil can use the spirit ball too. KidBuu was actually taking of the spirit ball in the end of DragonBallZ.
There are holes in your theory Kid buu was taking control of spirit bomb because goku was powerless to budge it any further so all kid buu did was push it upwards even freiza was able to do that in saiyan saga.
Vegeta has used the Kamehameha as well
Remember Vegeta even used the destro-disk to cut Gohan's tail.
Well just because the Ki beam is colored Blue doesn't make it a kamehameha,and Destructo disk looks like this >
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other attacks similar to them like these :-

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are not destructo disks just like how every beam attack isn't kamehameha.
 
By that logic Vegeta would not have resorted to Fusion, but he did twice! During the Battle with Kid Buu and during Battle of Gods Vegeta cast aside his pride to say that Goku was better and to protect Earth from Beers.
He did fusion because he was facing something he could never think of defeating and it was the last ditch measure he HAD to do so he swallowed his pride and did that.

ON the other hand Kamehameha is just a KI beam attack and after saiyan saga pretty much everyone with higher power level could dish out KI beam attacks and thus rendering kamehameha obsolete

Vegeta already is master of KI manipulation and even knows similar techniques like Kaio-ken(as he mentioned in the fight with goku) same goes with trunks he already knows how to dish out energy beams so just going by simple logic he doesn't need to learn Kamehameha when he can replicate the same attack in different ways.
I've already proven that Kid Trunks can perfrom the Kamehameha and you can't change that fact Mr. Manga is true source. (God you sound like the folks at Kanzenshuu ugh!)
In the entire majin buu/fusion saga Trunks never learned or used kamehameha. the movie was was NOT written by toriyama and broly movies don't fit into the Z series.
Trunks did it to save a girl, I've also proven that girls wanted GT Trunks. Watch the beginning of DBGT.
you know what REAL trunks would've done ? he would've gone SSJ and blasted the monster sky-high rather then being a cross-dresser.
Their is nothing wrong with GT Trunks outfit. IfGohan can learn the SBC so Trunks can learn Kamehameha.
He can learn instant transmission too but he never really does in the original series and that's why non-canon sources are not credible at all BTW gohan never uses SPC in anime or manga.
Of course its ripped from DB/Z, it IS Dragon Ball duh!
WHAT !? No i meant say it lacks any kind of creativity or originality most of the villains have no real backstory,unclear motivations and they severely lack personality new ideas are hardly implemented and just thrown in for the sake of it and for every new idea there are 10 old ideas recycled.
Son Goku has always acted like a child even as a adult! Goku was happy to be a kid again and he acted like his normal self, a kid
He was innocent and gullible but adult goku was way more mature,experienced and serious.
GT has slow fights but at least its not a bunch of air explosions like Z is. -_-
aww just a bunch of cheaply animated explosions. YUCK almost gave me cancer ! the fluid animation,the details on the environmental destruction its all that's just so underwhelming isn't it ?
OH MAN that's INTENSE fighting right there ! look how they throw small energy balls at each other and punch each other slower than yamcha !

This TOTALLY beats the awesomely animated&choreographed fights of DBZ doesn't it ? Not to mention the fact that fights in Dragonball are wayy better and more brutal than DBGT despite being cutesy and charming.
RILLDO dude, he was as strong as Majin Buu but he fought Goku at different modes, his ultimate form beat Goku.
SSJ goku killed Rildo so we are now to assume that kid goku is as strong as FPSSJ3 ? Its virtually impossible.
Cooler a fan favorite makes a cameo! God strike Toei for placing a cameo!
Well the problem is that there is no source material so that means there are NO Fillers everything in the show are in one canon and according to GT cooler exists leave cooler let's just talk about the fact thatGoku knows about Dragon fist which is a movie only technique.
The Namiks didn't even know about overusing the Dragon Balls! Only Old Kai, a god which makes sense! Dende is not bright like Kami.
PURE BULLSH!T in DBZ old kai was hesitant to use them because he thought that manipulating such a great power is not wise.The whole " Dragonball Corruption" thing was just made up due to the lack of a better script.
The Shadow Dragons were a colorful cast with different personalities which made them great
I can't quite grasp your sense of humor here are you trying to be sarcastic to yourself ?:blink:
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I AM THE BIG BAD EVIL ONE ! i suck all the balls to get stronger and i am devoid of any distinctive personality.
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I AM THE FAT ONE I POLLUTE THE AIR ! for the comedy purposes of course ! (because as we all know that almighty life granting dragon is now just a laughing stock right ?)
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I AM THE GREEDY SMALL ONE I SUCK ELECTRICITY ! I am so overconfident despite being a laughing stock !
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I don't even LOOK like a dragon.. but hell just call me stereotype No34 based on a mole and i also can absorb and copy techniques (boy oh boy If only kid buu knew his abilities are being plagiarized XD)
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I AM THE GIRLY ONE ! call me anime girl stereotype no500
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WE BOTH are shameless rip-offs of Devilman and Mutant Nameks just call us unoriginal color swap shenron.

OH MAI GOD ! Captain planet has better stereotypical villains !

They all look like they belong in the likes of Yakon NOT something sheron related and it is obvious that the whole shadow dragon saga is a bad rip-off of Mutated nameks from Dragon ball(Which was MUCH more darker).
I'm tired of seeing Cell and Broly like characters. The Shadow Dragons were a breath a fresh air.
Really ? Cheap sellout designs with bland stereotypes are a "Breath of fresh air" ? but villains with original designs,solid backstory and unique personalities/motivations aren't ?[/media]
Freeza wanted to control all
Freiza is the classic example of a sadistic imposing villain something like you would see in bond movies he does evil because he gets a sick pleasure in doing that and mostly just wants to be a galactic kingpin until goku because SSJ it was clear that Freiza was the boss.
Cell and Kid Buu wanted to destroy everything
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Cell was introduced with a much better build up trunks finding the spaceship and then kami fusing with piccolo and piccolo entering a desolated town only to encounter a monster from the past and his motivations were only to become perfect and was ready to do just about do any dirty work to obtain that and after analyzing his enemies he also was able to suppress his power level to hide from Z fighters while leeching off every organism in path even when he is outmatched by trunks&vegeta he still finds a way to absorb 18

and all his transformations are unique and awesome and he gradually changes his personality with each transformation when he's imperfect he's cunning,sleazy and creepy,when he's semi-perfect he's arrogant and when he's complete he becomes confident and his only motives are to have fun and kill goku
and when he FINALLY when he gets a Zenkai he goes completely insane and wants to destroy everything because he thinks he can survive again and this Is what makes Cell such a great villain
90% of the time he never really wanted to "Destroy teh earth"

Buu represented simple chaos no reasoning no goals nothing just pure destruction everywhere at first he appeared like a pushover but as he transformed the more and more dangerous he became
what makes them different from Omega?
Original Backstory,unique designs,personalities and motivations.
I got nothing for that one, I honestly don't care. I was happy to see the little dude again.
You just quoted DBGT writing staff :D
By that Logic why didn't Kami destroy the Black Star Dragon Balls? They wanted to kill off Piccolo and make it all dramitc with the hell plot? It is a plot hole but I don't care because it was fun to watch Piccolo cause havic in Heaven!:D
He dies in the only episode he ever appears.. i find that insulting to such a great character.
Guildo's time stopping would work on anyone period.
YEAAAAHH RIIIIIGHT... except that won't happen because it is already demonstrated that attacks fired from weaker opponents can't effect stronger enemies and you're forgetting that basically all Super saiynas can easily travel faster than light so guldo can only crap his pants watching gogeta.
SO you wanted SS3 Goku (who couldn't maintian the form for long without a tial) to kick up doors and kick ass basically?
They rarely needed SSj3 mere SSj was more than enough to defeat all the villains except for major villains so idk why the hell were they screwing around when they could've just :-

> Sent all the saiyans on earth to different coordinates to get the balls as quickly as possible rather then going on a space picnic putting the WHOLE planet on grave danger.

At least in DBZ goku&vegeta knew that even if they both die Gohan and Gotenks still would kill kid buu but here all saiynas are just screwing around when they are needed the most !

What i expected was to witness new planets with unique inhabitants and enemies at least stronger than ssj2 and gradual story progress instead of rubbish fillers followed by some of the worst animated fights ever made in anime.
That's not fun but boring
GT Is boring regardless crappy story,crappy villains crappy animation crappy everything.
GT was a DB style adventure through space, not a fight fest dude. Enjoy the wackyness of it
Okay at this point you know very well that Dragon ball is vastly superior to GT in terms of EVERYTHING the fights,the story,the jokes everything is well placed

Dragon ball had very well balanced cast with distinctive personalities with actual humor like this >
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launch was a parody of women with mood swings and not to forget the crass adult humor.

GT HAS NONE OF THIS because its not written by the person who made this show funny and entertaining in the first place.
this fight alone is better then ALL THE GT fights together
Pan hid on board the ship and Gohan couldn't stop her cuz the ship left Earth duh!
Stupid Plot device DUUUUUUH.
MajUub was stronger than a SS3 but not a SS4. Super 17 was stronger than a SS3 and Ultimate Gohan so way Uub lost. SS4 is way above SS3
That still doesn't prove how SSj1 goku can fight with Super 17 when Uub got defeated in ONE PUNCH... ONE PUNCH !
Or really? Yamcha, Tien, Chaotzu, Bulma, Oolong, Roshi, Launch, Chi-chi and many others were pushed aside by Super Saiyan everyone!
Chi-chi,roshi,oolong didn't have much to do in dragon ball either and even then i can say that toriyama tired to make them all relevant

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Taught Goten Martial arts leading him to become SSJ = 100000% relevant
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Killed saibamen and stalled Semi-perfect cell and also saved Satan&dende's life and brought more time for goku&vegeta's fusion = 100% Relevant
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killed Saibamen,helped gohan on Namek,almost killed napped and also fought Imperfect cell = 100% Relevant
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killed saibamen,KILLED Raditz,almost killed imperfect cell first time,trained gohan,goten&Trunks,fought 17,made dragonballs,saved gohan,goku several times,led everyone to distract cell's beam struggle,he is simple the 'effin the batman of DBZ = 10000 % Relevant
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Even in vain trunks&goten did their best to fight buu and avoid earth's destruction buying gohan more time = 100% Relevant
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Killed almost everyone weak,had the best character development&transition from good to anti-hero,despite unable to kill major enemy he always had the best finishers,saved goku&gohan,Stood up against someone triple his power = 9000% Relevant
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MADE THE 'EFFIN TIME MACHINE,Dragon Radar,saiyan armor,namek Ship and the antidote ! = 100% Relevant

IN GT If you're NOT GOKU OR Pan you're easily irrelevant and off screen ! in DBZ goku wasn't like that sure he was the hero but he needed his freinds&family to defeat his enemies that's what made goku so likable in the first place .
GT Goku = Jesus
GT is not disgusting&deplorable Why are you using those words to describe a cartoon?!
Yes it is for me, it ruined one of the best&nostalgic anime series ever made.
You know what the back of the DBGT Complete Series box set says about it? "Dragon Ball GT is a fun ride" And that's exactly what GT is.
fun ride in hell i guess ? because my nostalgia is severely hurt and i feel offended as a viewer because the show treats me like a retard baby.

P.S sorry i couldn't follow your rule of not posting more then 3 videos.. but i made the text&images small
 
Okay okay i get it @Vampirewiked ! everyone can learn kamehameha with ease !

Its just an ordinary KI beam so many characters have their own KI beams though i still don't agree that anything similar to disk is automatically Destrcto disk.

i'd just call it simple saw beam lol spirit bomb isn't exactly kryptonite it only hurts someone when it explodes.
 
Really?
Besides name, color, power level, & character using it, how does the Destructo disk varies in difference.
Simple its krillin's signature attack name others may have similar attacks but they are not destructo disk.

Freiza's disks are called "Death saucer" or something like that.
 
Just because it's krillin's signature attack doesn't mean others can't use it.
Well i never they can't they simply aren't.
So Again there's no difference Besides name, color, power level, & character using it.
Every energy disk does exactly the same thing as the Destructo disk.
If you go by that logic then any ki beam attack is just a copy of another.
Final flash is a copy of kamehameha,Freiza's death ball is a copy of Kid buu's planet bursting ball and so on and on.
The DragonBall series made it clear that techniques was available to everyone.
YES it is... but that doesn't mean you can say that out of context its like saying Piccolo could've used Kaio-ken type 50% and killed Imperfect cell sure he could have but it just never happened and to me anything non-canon did not actually happen in the same universe.
 
You're trying to put restrictions on DragonBall logic which is flimsy already.
I'm sorry let me elaborate,on the context of the story not Logic logic is nothing but a tool for speculations.
What exactly does krillin's disk do that's different from Frieza's ?
The same difference between Freiza's Death ball and Kid buu Planet burst attack they both look the same and have the same effect YET they're completely unrelated
So exactly what makes you think NO OTHER characters can't use attacks that aren't limited to race.
OH GOSH I DID NOT say that ! i was only talking in the context of story that trunks didn't use kamehameha in the entire buu saga.
 
only limitation to the techniques used in that universe is by race
Well Piccolo can go "Super Namek"
That given the confines of the DragonBall universe & the wide road of flexibility, it is highly plausible that techniques aren't limited to certain characters ?
most of them are replicated in one way or other.
 
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GT FAIL.. it wasn't even comic relief like cell or trunks's punch omega seriously kicked Hercule AND HE SURVIVES !!
 
I didn't even read your comment before i clicked the video & OMG.
Japanese people have high pitches voices by birth.
the scene was way better when compared to Eng dub the music just falls flat it builds up nothing Japanese version is wayy superior.
 
Nozawa is brilliant. I love her Goku. Her screaming and Kamehamehas that sound like she's just been stabbed are epic!
Her SS3 transformation isn't as epic as Sean's version but you can feel the pain Son-Kun's going through during the transformation.


Edit: Guys cool it with the Youtube videos please.
 
I'm sorry ROCKMAN X but in this case i don't share your opinion on japanese voices being superior in anyway shape or form.
You were only listing to the voices ? because her scream was like there for like 5 seconds in the whole video

What i wanted to highlight was the music accompanied that was awesome eng version just had that dull guitar riff "Durr durr durr"
 
LOL I'm not even going to compare something like Faulconer Productions with some 80's budget music studio its just not fair at all.... Faulconer Productions had a better budget&studio.

Though Kai version has some good parts like the ambient silence creating intense moments and that's about it in the music department.
GT's english dubbed background music was not all that.
No dude i'm not lying it was all there was they just changed the chords a little bit and it was still the same "Drrruh durrh" over and over again. at least this time Japanese version has better music
The funimation kai dialog is garbage to me, meaning if it's closer to the manga. Then the dialog for the manga is garbage to me
LOL its funny i hear the exact same thing from kai fans they say that DBZ dub was garbage.

I'd say KAI version is just miss or hit for DBZ fans it has serious dialogs but it too dry at times and the music doesn't really add up.

DBZ dub has its own share of errors like some exaggerated silliness and mistranslated lines.