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DmC Dante VS DMC3 Dante

DmC Dante VS DMC3 dante

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AgentRedgrave said:
Maybe but we saw NVergil nearly die (actually did die, but revived) from being impaled once....Something the classic characters are normally able to shake off.
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This is true.

I also read somewhere that the heart is Nephilims' weak spot.
 
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What part of DMC3 Dante is flashier? For the most part the move list is the same and mDante has some that he got from Nero and a few that have his weapons glow so if anything he's the flashier one. Is it because of Nevan?

Look, it's as simple as this, which is older? Because if this was a fight between DMC3 and 4 Dante it wouldn't be a question. The older, smarter, more experienced of the two wins.

Also, I thought about a comment someone made a while back that said that they wouldn't fight, that they'd go off for pizza or something rather than fight each other and thinking about it I have to say that I disagree. I think that they would fight because they both have that innate desire to, that they'd want to know who is able to do what. Even if it's with sticks and paint guns they'd want to, and even it's just for the sake of the adrenaline, they'd definitely fight. They'd fight and then they'd go get pizza and beer.
 
AgentRedgrave said:
Maybe but we saw NVergil nearly die (actually did die, but revived) from being impaled once....Something the classic characters are normally able to shake off.
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Well, the first time Vergil impaled Dante in DMC 3 he took a lot of time to recover, and he was impaled a second time seconds after that. I think he got used to it with the time because he woke his demonic side.
I choose DMC 3 Dante because like the others already said, his skills with the sword are better, and there's the styles:
-Swordmaster: This is basically pure offensive and he's really fast attacking and doing combos.
-Trickster: He can dodge the attacks without difficulty.
-Gunslinger: This is when he shows his guns skills, he basically pierces the enemy with bullets and keeps him away.
-Royal Guard: He can defend himself and attack in a balanced way.
-Doppelganger: He create copies of himself to fight, really useful, but in this case it would be unfair...
-Quicksilver: He can move at lightning quick speed, making him easy to attack freely and be difficult to be attacked.
Here he can't switch them like DMC 4 but he has a lot of possibilities.
 
Kurisu said:
Well, the first time Vergil impaled Dante in DMC 3 he took a lot of time to recover, and he was impaled a second time seconds after that. I think he got used to it with the time because he woke his demonic side.
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Yeah but nVergil already woke his demonic side too. In fact he could Devil Trigger. But he still died from that stab.

But... why talking about Vergil? This is about the Dantes.
 
I remember making a post about this

reDante has better strength feats than 3Dante, and was only dizzy from a energy blast that wrecked the city

3Dante is faster a heals quicker

Also, note that when Vergil stabbed Mundus, HE STILL HAD HS HANDS IN DANTE'S CHEST, Then Dante removed them and threw Mundus off the building Implying that its not damaging the heart that's the problem, but more focusing massive amounts of energy into the Nephilim's chest. Same goes for Dante's DT stab of Vergil
 
TerrorA said:
Also, note that when Vergil stabbed Mundus, HE STILL HAD HS HANDS IN DANTE'S CHEST, Then Dante removed them and threw Mundus off the building Implying that its not damaging the heart that's the problem, but more focusing massive amounts of energy into the Nephilim's chest. Same goes for Dante's DT stab of Vergil
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His hands weren't really IN his chest per say. His fingers were penetrating NDante's chest, but it didn't look like they were in far enough to reach the heart by any means
 
AgentRedgrave said:
Tell that to him after his first fight with Vergil.
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You're absolutely right.
He had to endure five whole minutes of not being OP as all hell before diving off a cliff into another choreographed montage. Think about how much strength and wisdom he gained from diving headfirst into battle---just look at the first thing he does when he recovers his power: dive headfirst into battle.

Easily on par with Luke's training on Dagobah.
 
Well, just because he can regen, doesn't mean he doesn't feel pain.

Also, in terms of struggling with enemies, Vergil was not the only one who gave him quite a hard time.

There was Beowulf, who slammed him into the ground. Also, he was shown clearly tired before he threw Rebellion at him.

There was Jester/Arkham, who exploited his battle against Vergil to weaken him, and he stomped him into the ground and threw him off the platform.

There was blob Arkham. In the cutscene we see Dante visibly tired. Arkhameven mocks him and was about to give him a final blow. It took a Vergil team-up to beat him.

Yeah he ultimately wins the fights, but he had to sweat with some of em.

I'd say the only games where he is really OP are DMC2 and 4.
 
WolfOD64 said:
You're absolutely right.
He had to endure five whole minutes of not being OP as all hell before diving off a cliff into another choreographed montage. Think about how much strength and wisdom he gained from diving headfirst into battle---just look at the first thing he does when he recovers his power: dive headfirst into battle.

Easily on par with Luke's training on Dagobah.
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'Op' or not, a fight is a fight, it's as simple as that.
Dante can struggle against enemies his equal.
 
Foxtrot94 said:
Well, just because he can regen, doesn't mean he doesn't feel pain.
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The writers seem pretty selective when he can feel pain, and when he can't. On one hand, he can be stabbed in the heart with Rebellion and be shot in the face by Lady without so much as wincing or cringing in pain.

And even when he does feel pain, there's no weight to it. He's up and about in only a few seconds---without a stagger in his step, or even a hindrance to his physical performance. The only instance where showed any kind of strain was when he got up after first fighting Vergil, and even then, he dove into an extravaganza of over-powered acrobatics and skill like he hadn't even taken a scratch.

If Dante can feel pain---and there's not a consistent basis to determine whether or not he actually can, especially since the extent of his powers, limitations and weaknesses are never given over the course of four games and multiple media spin-offs---he sure has hell doesn't have to endure the traumatic or taxing effects of it. Why? Because that would actually weaken him as a character---and God knows we can't have Dante not be an overpowered Gary Stu for more than three seconds.

Foxtrot94 said:
Well, just because he can regen, doesn't mean he doesn't feel pain.]Also, in terms of struggling with enemies, Vergil was not the only one who gave him quite a hard time.

There was Beowulf, who slammed him into the ground. Also, he was shown clearly tired before he threw Rebellion at him.

There was Jester/Arkham, who exploited his battle against Vergil to weaken him, and he stomped him into the ground and threw him off the platform.

There was blob Arkham. In the cutscene we see Dante visibly tired. Arkhameven mocks him and was about to give him a final blow. It took a Vergil team-up to beat him.
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We wouldn't know if Dante would've lost the fight or not, or if the exhaustion would've amounted to anything because Dante would never lose that fight....because he wins practically every fight.

Dante's never experienced the struggle of a personal defeat, and won't ever be shown enduring any kind of actual pain. A character's feats of strength are only impressive if he performs them in the face of certain vulnerabilities or weaknesses...overcoming any possible barriers of strength, or shortcomings they may have. It's something that causes them to work harder, to train harder...to bypass the limitations over a span of time, and prepare themselves for the heat of the next battle.

But Dante just ends up winning 99% of every fight he's dealt with, and whatever pain he feels is showered upon him without any real consequence. He has no limitations, no logical or anatomical fallacies, and no danger of being defeated or killed...

....thus making every battle a cakewalk instead of a real obstacle. And that just makes him a weak character...the kind of Gary-Stu that Deviantartists cook up on an afternoon of eating sugar and watching devoid-of-logic hyper bishonen.
 
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