DmC Review by Angry Joe

[KaizenShio]

Chill.

I never insulted you, so why must you insult me?




That still doesn't change the fact that you originally implied DMC4 had 2 songs in which Slacri responded, stating that there are much more than just 2 songs in the entire soundtrack. Then you changed to "name 2 songs that Nero fights with casual enemies" in order to "accept his challenge". That's extremely trivial since you completely ignored the rest of the soundtrack only to ask Slacri to name more than 1 song for Nero's battle theme.

Also, DMC isn't the only game that has 1 battle theme while fighting normal enemies. Take a look at some of the Final Fantasy and Legend of Zelda games.




If you're going to call people idiots just because you want someone to name more than 1 song for Nero's battle theme, then I pity you. Like I said before, you originally suggested that DMC4 only had 2 songs. And afterwards you flip-flopped your implied statement to something different.

But if you really want me to, here's another song that happens during the introduction and the entire fight of Bianco Angelo, a normal enemy that is encountered regularly.

Bianco Angelo isn't considered a "mini boss" because there are multiple Bianco Angelos that you fight. DMC4's mini bosses include Blitz, Alto Angelo (arguably a mini boss or just an elite), and Faust.




You're the one who's remotely acting like one.

Well you did edit the **** out of his post to make it kinda seem bad I would get kinda mad also

 

[MedicoreR]

Chill.

I never insulted you, so why must you insult me?

You insulted me while you cut my post.


That still doesn't change the fact that you originally implied DMC4 had 2 songs

Did you read my post? Where the hell did i talk about DMC4 had 2 songs?I said if Capcom would do DmC, they would put 2 songs.
Is it clear now?
Did you understand it?
Also, DMC isn't the only game that has 1 battle theme while fighting normal enemies. Take a look at some of the Final Fantasy and Legend of Zelda games.

Who cares other games? I just wanted to point in DmC they have way more while Nero has ''times has come'' and Dante has ''LocknLoad''

If you're going to call people idiots just because you want someone to name more than 1 song for Nero's battle theme, then I pity you. Like I said before, you originally suggested that DMC4 only had 2 songs
No, i didnt. You are still writing things that i never wrote. I was talking about ''what if DmC made by Capcom'' Why dont you get it?

But if you really want me to, here's another song that happens during the introduction and the entire fight of Bianco Angelo, a normal enemy that is encountered regularly.

If your case was true (if he wasnt a mini boss battle), you could hear that music everytime when he faced off with him.


You're the one who's remotely acting like one.
F%&$ DMC or DmC.. Is it still sound fanboyistic too you?
I know you are a fanboy. Little bit a mature one.
You are always there when DmC has a negative thing.
You are hiding your hate pretty well i say.

 

[TWOxACROSS]

You know what's really retarded? People bringing up an actress in the game mentioning the word "Shakespearean" when referring to the game's themes (corruption, power, friendship, brotherhood, and betrayal), and then people ****ting on the game because it doesn't live up to some Shakespearean standard they contrived and then imposed on the game.

That, and people latching on to "Vergil killed a woman and child!" No, Vergil killed demons, demons who an hour before were both trying to kill Dante. It's also a work of fiction that shows a character being a cold-hearted scumbag.

Oh, and people constantly trying to say that DmC replaces the classic series in order to justify hating it more, when both companies have told us it has nothing to do with nor does it replace the original, numbered series, and that the classic series isn't gone in any sense of the word. A lack of an announcement on a DMC5 means literally nothing, except that they were focusing efforts on their current projects. It's as stupid as thinking someone is gone forever because they left the house and haven't come back yet.

 

[ChaserTech]

Well you did edit the **** out of his post to make it kinda seem bad I would get kinda mad also

How am I editing it? I'm responding to each of his statements without changing what he originally wrote. This isn't new. People have done this before to respond to each individual point, like within this thread for instance. :/

You insulted me while you cut my post.

No, I didn't. My first reply to you was this:

Here's what you've said.

"A no story, 10 missions, 10 backward, 2 songs, 4 hours lenght, 3 weapons . . . "
After that, you switched to: "what songs played while Nero fight aganist his casual enemies?"

You originally said TWO songs. You didn't specify anything until after Slacri pointed out that there were a lot more.

I'm not insulting you.

Did you read my post? Where the hell did i talk about DMC4 had 2 songs?I said if Capcom would do DmC, they would put 2 songs.
Is it clear now?
Did you understand it?

Do you know what "implied" means?
Plus you're still suggesting that if Capcom would make another actual DMC game, it would hold only two songs. Which is extremely false. Overall, each DMC game had more than 1 soundtrack within each individual game. :/

No, i didnt. You are still writing things that i never wrote. I was talking about ''what if DmC made by Capcom'' Why dont you get it?

Read above statement.

Who cares other games? I just wanted to point in DmC they have way more while Nero has ''times has come'' and Dante has ''LocknLoad''

Ok, and? So what if DmC has more battle themes than DMC4? That doesn't alter what you implied with your first post.

If your case was true (if he wasnt a mini boss battle), you could hear that music everytime when he faced off with him.

You asked for a song that plays when Nero fights a regular enemy, so I posted the video.
Bianco Angelo is a regular enemy.

And no, not all mini bosses don't have their own theme song. Otherwise Blitz wouldn't be considered as a miniboss, when he's actually a miniboss.

F%&$ DMC or DmC.. Is it still sound fanboyistic too you?

Yes, considering you used "or" in that statement.

I know you are a fanboy. Little bit a mature one.
You are always there when DmC has a negative thing.
You are hiding your hate pretty well i say.

So I'm a fanboy because I'm correcting people with logical explanations on why a certain aspect of DMC or DmC is better without any biased opinions? Because that's literally all I do when I'm responding to people. I don't go off and say "LULZ DONTE IS HORIBLE THIS GAME SUCKS!!! DMC IS BETTER!!" nor do I insult anyone's opinion when they are using it within an argument to prove their points. I respect it and continue to stand my ground in an argument without disrespecting them. I even admit that there are areas that DmC excel at. (Environments, art design, and a semi strong story). So I really doubt that I'm a fanboy that's "hiding my hate pretty well".

 

[KaizenShio]

How am I editing it? I'm responding to each of his statements without changing what he originally wrote. This isn't new. People have done this before to respond to each individual point, like within this thread for instance. :/



No, I didn't. My first reply to you was this:



I'm not insulting you.



Do you know what "implied" means?
Plus you're still suggesting that if Capcom would make another actual DMC game, it would hold only two songs. Which is extremely false. Overall, each DMC game had more than 1 soundtrack within each individual game. :/



Read above statement.



Ok, and? So what if DmC has more battle themes than DMC4? That doesn't alter what you implied with your first post.



You asked for a song that plays when Nero fights a regular enemy, so I posted the video.
Bianco Angelo is a regular enemy.

And no, not all mini bosses don't have their own theme song. Otherwise Blitz wouldn't be considered as a miniboss, when he's actually a miniboss.



Yes, considering you used "or" in that statement.



So I'm a fanboy because I'm correcting people with logical explanations on why a certain aspect of DMC or DmC is better without any biased opinions? Because that's literally all I do when I'm responding to people. I don't go off and say "LULZ DONTE IS HORIBLE THIS GAME SUCKS!!! DMC IS BETTER!!" nor do I insult anyone's opinion when they are using it within an argument to prove their points. I respect it and continue to stand my ground in an argument without disrespecting them. I even admit that there are areas that DmC excel at. (Environments, art design, and a semi strong story). So I really doubt that I'm a fanboy that's "hiding my hate pretty well".

Your right it isnt new you edit the hell out of his text making it sound worst than it actually did... Politicians do it all the time.....

 

[ChaserTech]

Your right it isnt new you edit the hell out of his text making it sound worst than it actually did... Politicians do it all the time.....

...I didn't make it seem like it was a bad post at all.

I didn't take it out of context since he technically implied that DMC, in general, had very few soundtracks. Which is false. He even made several references to DMC4, which had a lot of backtracking in it as well as saying "3 weapons". To say he's not talking about DMC4 indirectly would be lying.

 

[KaizenShio]

...I didn't make it seem like it was a bad post at all.

I didn't take it out of context since he technically implied that DMC, in general, had very few soundtracks. Which is false. He even made several references to DMC4, which had a lot of backtracking in it as well as saying "3 weapons". To say he's not talking about DMC4 indirectly would be lying.

but you did edit his post even if you had good bad neutral position on it you did do that....

 

[ChaserTech]

but you did edit his post even if you had good bad neutral position on it you did do that....

I didn't edit his words. And it still doesn't change what I stated in my previous post.

 

[KaizenShio]

I didn't edit his words. And it still doesn't change what I stated in my previous post.

I dont think you get it.. You quoted him he gets on you for cutting his post what Constitutes as "editing" then you said i didnt edit his words when you clearly did are you not picking up on this? or shall i try a different approach to this

 

[ChaserTech]

I dont think you get it.. You quoted him he gets on you for cutting his post what Constitutes as "editing" then you said i didnt edit his words when you clearly did are you not picking up on this? or shall i try a different approach to this

All I'm saying that I didn't edit his words. Plain and simple.

He said:

A no story, 10 missions, 10 backward, 2 songs, 4 hours lenght, 3 weapons . . .

In which I replied with:

After that, you switched to: "what songs played while Nero fight aganist his casual enemies?"
You originally said TWO songs. You didn't specify anything until after Slacri pointed out that there were a lot more.

Since he was referring to DMC4 with this post:

This is the answer i want.
You are saying ''RE6 is a good game but a terrible RE game.'' also you are the side of ''DmC is a good game but a terrible DMC game''

Capcom did the RE6 and they couldnt satisfy you, and i believe you feel the same way with Dragons Dogma too.
How come do you think they would do better while we have a training mode game DMC4?
A no story, 10 missions, 10 backward, 2 songs, 4 hours lenght, 3 weapons (and a 1 drum weapon just to satisfy your guitar weapon longing from DMC3) game?

And he responded to my reply with:

OMG, now im ****ed
Obviously im talking about ''what would happen if Capcom did DmC'' Im also talking about a new weapon

He didn't state anything along the lines of "what would happen if Capcom did DmC'' with the first post that I replied to. He's just merely suggesting that I should know exactly what he's talking about when his post was poorly worded. I didn't "edit the hell out of his text" when I'm only using part of his post to respond to. If you can't understand this, then I'm sorry you can't.

 

[KaizenShio]

So you Cut his words is that so hard to admit

 

[KaizenShio]

You edited his post and he was mad at it

 

[ChaserTech]

You edited his post and he was mad at it
So you Cut his words is that so hard to admit

Still doesn't mean I'm editing what he says.

 

[KaizenShio]

your an idiot if hes mad because you Cut his post admitted to it and then still not see the problem then your a lost cause.... Simple as that

 

[ChaserTech]

your an idiot if hes mad because you Cut his post admitted to it and then still not see the problem then your a lost cause.... Simple as that

I didn't change what he said at all. There's a big difference between cutting a part of a post and editing it to where the original poster says something entirely different. I didn't do that. I just cut his post and responded to that segment.

If someone's going to get mad at me just because I cut part their post, without changing what he says, then they are being immature. I'm not an idiot just because I fail to see the reason why a person would get mad just because I "edited their post" when I didn't change what they originally said.

 

[KaizenShio]

easy he felt that whole statement had relevance than just 1 part and you guys had yet to prove him wrong as of yet regarding the subject. well im kinda done on this if you reply I wont give you a response right away in the middle of playing something

 

[Slacri]

I think it's you who takes DmC too seriously. I don't take DMC seriously as I make fun of how stupid it is more than the fanboys who act like it's taboo. I make fun of just about anything though. The difference is is that DMC never shows one ounce of brain behind it in everything that when it's dry attempts at being funny or intetionally cheesy just comes off as just that, stupid. Nothing more, nothing less. DMC has tried to tell stories in the past and it still just comes off as very generic and uninteresting. Devil May Cry can not hold up on anything more than gameplay because everything else about it just isn't as interesting at all. With such a bloated sense of social satire DmC comes off as the more self aware game and they were looking to make DmC feel more like movies do in the storytelling and it does.

The story is actually told better with cutscenes woven into the narrative and the best voice acting the series has seen yet. The motion capture and design of the game definitely makes it a very well designed game technologically as well and I expected that because NT has a rep for using some of the best technological techniques in the industry.

I honestly don't even understand how you can argue that the story isn't supposed to be taken seriously when Ninja Theory themselves have said it is. Also, best voice acting? Don't make me laugh. The other voice acting was alright I guess, but Dante's was atrocious. It's not much better than the old games but don't pretend like it's an improvement.

It's not well interwoven at all, and you're still acting like combat isn't the most important part of these games. It's so bad that they have cutscenes in the middle of when you're fighting.

Do you honestly think NT really feels this way about the world and DmC is some kind of message about how they really feel? I swear to god, if you honestly believe that I will probably send you money for being so stupid because I'm pretty sure I can write you off as charity work. This fanbase has been ridiculous supposedly interpreting the wig joke as some kind of insult to complaining about something as trivial as Vergil shooting a demonic baby acting like it was so bad. Vergil is so goddamn uninteresting and boring in the original games anyway that if he stayed the same for the most part I would still hate him. Vegil IS A VERY STUPID AND WEAK EXCUSE FOR A VILLAIN. I was hoping Vergil to change more than anyone else because he was so dumb. Why to people like this lame idiot?

Yes, because they've said it is. People like him because he was a fun character that played off Dante well.
You're acting like I don't understand what you're trying to say but simply you accept it's stupid crap and fans supposedly think that it was entertaining. I don't think it is. If DMC wanted to be entertainingly cheesy then I know of far better examples who do that so much better. Like Evil Dead 2 and Army Of Darkness which is part of my favorite trilogy of movies of all time. Devil May Cry's sense of humor comes of as grating and just stupid as isn't as funny or entertaining as it thinks it is. I really don't care about hearing anything these characters have to stay and I'll just get back to cutting up demons. DmC at least had me paying more attention to the story especially if I have characters this time around who's entire vocabulary doesn't seem to exist completely of one liners and cliche cheese. It does not use the more mature themes at an attempt at supposedly being more mature to a ridiculous extent like you think it does. Sure the intro cinematic isn't something I'd use to showoff video games as art but it sure as hell was a hell of alot more interesting than some of the cutscenes from the previous games which thinks it's so cool for being cheesy where I just rather slap Dante over the head and say quit being a f*cking try hard. He should have stayed like he was in the 1st game which had him cocky but not as in your face about it.[/quote] Seriously? You're still claiming that the DMC3 and 4 were trying hard to be serious? Tell me what part of those videos are serious, I dare you.

The first Dante we ever seen is actually still my favorite so yea. DMC 3 makes me want to punch him half the time and 2, well I have nothing to say about because he didn't do ANYTHING. He was just boring. His hair did the acting in that game. 4 just took about every single generic anime trend in the book and built its entire world around that which came off as just completely retarded. A very lazy game overall that was such a piece of sh!t that I won't even give the gold star for combat because it's a game that sure as hell wanted me to hate it. I was one and done with 4 and actually we took the game and threw it in a bon fire to roast some hot dogs one day. Where is the sudden praise for this piece of sh!it DMC 4 coming from? Did the people just suddenly forget how much grief they gave 4? Calling it the worst DMC since 2. Why the sudden change of heart? I won't give DMC 4 any excuse. It was god awful. DmC is better than 2 and 4 no question.

Even if DmC was better in it's story, which I still disagree the combat is far better than DMC4. And the combat is more important than the story.

 

[Slacri]

You know what's really retarded? People bringing up an actress in the game mentioning the word "Shakespearean" when referring to the game's themes (corruption, power, friendship, brotherhood, and betrayal), and then people ****ting on the game because it doesn't live up to some Shakespearean standard they contrived and then imposed on the game.

Yes, because it's taking these themes seriously and not living up. How is the studio themselves advertising something and not living up not a legitimate complaint?

That, and people latching on to "Vergil killed a woman and child!" No, Vergil killed demons, demons who an hour before were both trying to kill Dante. It's also a work of fiction that shows a character being a cold-hearted scumbag.

Even if you want to argue on the morality of the subject it makes Dante look like an idiot and it's a clear scene that's taking itself so seriously.

Oh, and people constantly trying to say that DmC replaces the classic series in order to justify hating it more, when both companies have told us it has nothing to do with nor does it replace the original, numbered series, and that the classic series isn't gone in any sense of the word. A lack of an announcement on a DMC5 means literally nothing, except that they were focusing efforts on their current projects. It's as stupid as thinking someone is gone forever because they left the house and haven't come back yet.

They've only told us it's a spin-off series. As far as we know there is no DMC5 in development or announced. Especially because Itsuno's team is working on Dragon's Dogma 2 now.

 

[Slacri]

Wow what an ***** you are..
Here's what i've said actually


OMG, now im ****ed
Obviously im talking about ''what would happen if Capcom did DmC'' Im also talking about a new weapon.

Then he said :

He thought i was talking about DMC4 , i acceptted the challange and said


Now check his unbelievable REPLY



What did i ask? What did he answer?



Again he posted the same tracks as a reply..
He doesnt even read what wrote.

Now you CHEASERTECH guy, cutting my post ?Those are the post that i wrote.
If you can write 2 SONGS while Nero fights with casual enemies (not the music of Dmc4 logo appear, not the hall stage ambient, not talking about bosses, im talking about ENEMIES)
If you can write, then im an idiot.
If you cant, then you are an idiot.
Fanboys...

I didn't even notice that post. Even so, he's already posted songs about casual enemies, and you were using an unbelievable analogy from sound orchestras to just sound effects. That's not a sound effect, that's actual music. Every game has a main battle theme also, I don't know what your issue is.

 

[788Masri]

i liked joes reveiw but i felt he was a little too caught up on comparing all the characters to their old versions. but it is a reboot aaah well...