Why the reboot happened

[Pale Rider]

You know people, I got 99 problems but this DmC Dante aint one. My main concern about this reboot is if it's gonna be ported to pc ?!?

 

[Asmodaius]

Well, seeing as DMC3 and DMC4 were ported, then this one might as well, but at a later date. The PC ports usually come later, don't they?

 

[Pale Rider]

Well, seeing as DMC3 and DMC4 were ported, then this one might as well, but at a later date. The PC ports usually come later, don't they?

Lol..sounds like your assumption to me and I find it funny.Some thinks, some knows. I
take my chances on those who
actually knows if it will be ported or not. So, do you actually know that ??

 

[Asmodaius]

Touché.
But no, I don't know if there will be a PC port, but I am saying that there is a chance that there will be one when looking back at the two previous DMC games. What I DO know is that there haven't been confirmed a PC port yet, so all you can do is wait and see if there ever will be one.

 

[SpawnShooter]

I don't imagine there will be a PC port, there was a live feed a while back with NT where we all had a chat box that could be seen and we could ask them questions. Pretty much everyone and I mean EVERYONE was asking if there would be a port and the question went unanswered. That coupled with the DMC HD collection (and most of Capcoms modern games) being console exclusive and NTs inexperience with making PC ports. I also seem to recall Capcom crying over piracy on one of their previous PC titles, I just can't remember which one.

 

[V's patron]

How so? And this question's coming from someone who played Bayonetta... hmm.

I didn't play it yet but I read it on the bayonet wiki and thought It was pretty and hope the Eva that was a witch makes an appearance.

Well, if this DmC is indeed a parallel universe, then it would be best to compare it with another media which is using parallel/alternate universes alot - comicbooks!

And let's take Marvel as an example, as it is my favourite comicbook company. ^^
Do you know Kurt Wagner, aka Nightcrawler? He is usually a blue skinned man with demonic traits, such as animal-like legs, a long pointy tail, yellow glowing eyes... stuff like that. However, in an alternate universe of the Marvel world, he is female and goes by another name and even has another origin... But she is basically the same character as the original one, but changed to fit this new world.

Do you understand my point, or does this sound like utter gibberish to you? XD

An easier example would be the infamous games where there are two sides of the story because there is an option to see Cole go good or evil and see how that affects the story.

an easier example for nightcrawler would be comparing his mainstream 616 character with the Ultimate marvel version and the Age of apocalypse.

 

[Meg]

CoolDemon, this was exactly what the mod 'Tony_Redgrave' mentioned after closing the Screamo thread...
You have already mentioned all of this several times now. We get it! It is time to move on...

Anyways, on topic. I don't think Capcom/Ninja Theory exactly knows what DmC is compared to the original series, hence the confusion on what to call it. Is it a reboot? An alternate universe? A different take on DMC? Or maybe all of them?

I see it like this... It IS the same Dante, however, it is his story retold through other glasses. Like a legend or mythos retold throughout different parts of the world. E.g. let's take Zeus as an example. He is the king of all the gods of Olympus in ancient Greek mythology. In Norse mythology, the king of all the gods is called Odin and his realm is called Asgard. After much research, experts have come to the conclusion that they are basically the same god, but told by different nations with their different takes on it, and that the stories are based from the same origin.

It's the same with Dante. No, the world is not exactly like we know it from the original series, and no, Dante doesn't look like the original Dante, and he even has another origin story... But they are, none the less, based on the same character, the same mythos, just told differently by different people. It is a new interpretation of Devil May Cry and Dante's adventures.

And THAT is why the two Dantes are compared like they are. Because basically, they are the same character.
I know, it's a twisted way of seeing it and can be hard to understand, especially if you choose not to believe it, but that's how I see it anyways.

Lovely way of explaining it, Asmo! Basically its two different versions of the same character. One isn't more true or right or better; they are just different.

 

[wallenb]

Wouldn't the x-men movies be considered a parallel universe? I mean there's nothing similar except their powers, and maybe professor X, but who else would play him?

 

[lorddemolatron]

Maybe it will be Offtop answer, but Im think that about Xmen movies, people rather thinks sbout them as cannon part of series

 

[wallenb]

i dont think its canon at all. Its just another parallel universe type thing because it follows bits and pieces of the main canon and throws everything together

the next spiderman movie is the same thing too
different perspective

 

[Asmodaius]

Lovely way of explaining it, Asmo! Basically its two different versions of the same character. One isn't more true or right or better; they are just different.

Exactly! ^^

@ wallenb:
Yes, the movies are considered to be an alternate universe than the main comicbook timeline, like the different cartoons are considered other universes as well. And they have also made many parallel universes in the comicbooks too.

 

[CoolDemon]

Lovely way of explaining it, Asmo! Basically its two different versions of the same character. One isn't more true or right or better; they are just different.

But Meg the stories, tales or information about the gods Zeus/Odin are from a source. That source can be a man, a book, or anything. Asmo's way of explaining DmC Dante and DMC Dante is suggesting that they are two characters based off a mutual source. That's not correct. DmC Dante is based off DMC Dante. In other words DMC Dante is the source. And if DMC Dante and DmC is the same Dante then Capcom/Ninja theory have contradicted themself by calling it a parall universe.

 

[Meg]

But Meg the stories, tales or information about the gods Zeus/Odin are from a source. That source can be a man, a book, or anything. Asmo's way of explaining DmC Dante and DMC Dante is suggesting that they are two characters based off a mutual source. That's not correct. DmC Dante is based off DMC Dante. In other words DMC Dante is the source. And if DMC Dante and DmC is the same Dante then Capcom/Ninja theory have contradicted themself by calling it a parall universe.

You missed my point. It doesn't matter who was based off whom. The point is we have two characters with the name Dante. They are different versions of "Dante," but they are still "Dante."

 

[Tony_Redgrave]

The two Dantes have more in common than their obvious differences. If they didn't, the 2nd one wouldn't be "Dante enough" to be the protagonist of "Devil May Cry".

Both are part devils, both have kind of a rebellious attitude, both slay demons, both use huge-ass sword/two-handguns, both wear a coat, etc.

They are based on the same concept. Rebellious part demon guy fights against his demonic heritage using his demonic powers, his big sword and his two handguns. It's more common that it seems at first. Maybe more common with Vampires (Blade & D. come to mind) but common enough.

Both Dante's ought to be popular depending on the perspective of each of the fans.

 

[CoolDemon]

But DmC Dante has alot in common with DMC Dante because the character is based off DMC Dante. I really don't get it - how can you accept two characters as the same just because they have alot in common. Does that make Nero "Dante" as well? Nero has demonic powers, big ass sword, a handgun with double barrel and he hates demons.

I don't get it. If because DmC Dante is based off DMC Dante makes him the same character because of name and common things then Nero is "Dante" as well.

DmC Dante is different from DMC Dante
Nero "Dante" is different from DMC Dante

But because they are based off DMC Dante and have similarities, both Nero "Dante" and DmC Dante is Dante.

It doesn't make sense.

 

[Pale Rider]

@Cooldemon
You missed her point again,

You missed my point. It
doesn't matter who was based
off whom. The point is we
have two characters with the
name Dante. They are different
versions of "Dante," but they are still "Dante."

 

[Tony_Redgrave]

But DmC Dante has alot in common with DMC Dante because the character is based off DMC Dante. I really don't get it - how can you accept two characters as the same just because they have alot in common. Does that make Nero "Dante" as well? Nero has demonic powers, big ass sword, a handgun with double barrel and he hates demons.

I don't get it. If because DmC Dante is based off DMC Dante makes him the same character because of name and common things then Nero is "Dante" as well.

DmC Dante is different from DMC Dante
Nero "Dante" is different from DMC Dante

But because they are based off DMC Dante and have similarities, both Nero "Dante" and DmC Dante is Dante.

It doesn't make sense.

It's just something that happens all the time. It happens anytime a new guy creates a new project based on an old one. Since he is not the original creator, the contents are bound to be changed yet retain some similarities, otherwise it wouldn't be based on anything.

Even Dante in all the DMCs is not exactly the same character, with DMC2 the most obvious example

In Nocturne, DMC2 Dante was more Dante than he was in DMC2, but they are both Dante - the half-devil guy that kills devils.

No one says all Dantes are the same. Or all X-men. Or all Spider-men. Or anything like that.
However, they are based on the same concepts, the same ideas, etc. There are like 20 new Peter Parkers/Spidermen, and even more Spider-men who aren't even Peter Parker. It is common.

The new Dante is different and smokes and has black hair etc, but he is just another way of interpreting the hero Dante, from the perspective of Ninja Theory. After all if they made a reboot and Dante was completely the same, it would be silly. He had to be different yet still be Dante-ish.

Also, well, if you can't see it, it just becomes a matter of opinion. What each of us look, looks different to each of our eyes

 

[Pale Rider]

@Tony
Great job in expanding and explaining what Meg said in four lines!!

 

[CoolDemon]

@Cooldemon
You missed her point again,

Of course it matters who was based off who not that DMC Dante is based off DmC Dante. It matters because if your gonna agree to a comparison that:

Odin = is one peoples interpretation of a GREAT god
Zeus = is another peoples interpretation of the same GREAT god

But both of these interpretations are based on a source: a book, a man who told about the god, etc

And that source tells us what is false and what is true by the interpretation of each people of the god.

And i don't care what character is based on which because its crystal clear that DmC is based off DMC. But what i find weird is calling DmC Dante the same "Dante". It's only using DMC Dante as template and it's name. And DMC Dante is DMC Dante because he is the source and different from DmC Dante.

And if DmC Dante is "Dante" or same as DMC Dante. Then i will say "Ok" then Nero is "Dante" as well. Because despite Nero not having Dante name and being a bit different than DMC Dante he shares the same demon powers, big ass sword, white hair, hates demons and gun.

@ Tony
I agree DMC 2, 3 and 4 isn't the source (DMC 1). But because DMc 2, 3 and 4 has same look as DMC 1 Dante it's easier to accept him as Dante. But in reality they are not.

 

[Tony_Redgrave]

^ If we go that far, then Dante and Devil May Cry are based on Divine Comedy. Vergil is Virgil, Trish is Beatrice, Lady is Mary mother of god, Lucia is Saint Lucia, Cerberus the wardog of hades etc XD Therefore the best interpretation of Dante would be Dante's Inferno - which is still far offXD