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Tony_Redgrave said:
^ If we go that far, then Dante and Devil May Cry are based on Divine Comedy. Vergil is Virgil, Trish is Beatrice, Lady is Mary mother of god, Lucia is Saint Lucia, Cerberus the wardog of hades etc XD Therefore the best interpretation of Dante would be Dante's Inferno - which is still far offXD
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You will never see me say that DMC Dante is the same Dante in Divine Comedy etc.
The inspiration for Dante's character is from Divine Comedy but again i will say that Dante in DMC only shares the name and is not the same Dante as in Divine Comedy.

And if Ninja theory is interpreting the hero Dante - how did they not understand that he has white hair because of human form of his father. That Dante is half human and half demon.

Using the word interpretation for changing a character is not right.
 
Tony_Redgrave said:
That's what all of us mean, and try to tell you. The new guy is different, but still 'a Dante'. How close to previous Dante remains to be seen, as we don't know his character/story yet.
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Well Meg said that DmC Dante is "still" Dante. That means that he is the same person. And she also said that one isn't more right or true than the other. But that's not true. DMC 1 Dante is the truest Dante of them all in DMC series.

But if you say that DmC Dante is 'a Dante' or 'another Dante', then yeah. But saying it's the same character and that DMC 1 Dante isn't any more true than DmC Dante is wrong. And it's also wrong to say that because DmC Dante has so much in common with real Dante of DMC series he is automatically Dante. Because Nero shares alot with Dante.

And i would also point out that it's wrong to use the word "interpretation". It's better to say that it's Ninja theory's VERSION of Dante ;)

I swear Tony, one day i will create a character. And i will take all that i have learned in this discussion. Then i will go so deep into the character that it will be original as possible.
 
CoolDemon said:
But if you say that DmC Dante is 'a Dante' or 'another Dante', then yeah. But saying it's the same character and that DMC 1 Dante isn't any more true than DmC Dante is wrong. And it's also wrong to say that because DmC Dante has so much in common with real Dante of DMC series he is automatically Dante. Because Nero shares alot with Dante.
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That's what I was trying to say. I was trying to say that DmC Dante and DMC Dante are two different versions of the same character. So they are the same but also different. O_o

And its not a matter of "right" or "wrong" its a matter of opinion.
 
Hahaha, well that's what Meg meant then. "a Dante" XD

Edit: Meg was faster to sayXD

In a way you are right. NT's version of Dante/Devil May Cry. Maybe all this time the problem was at what words each one of us was using hehe;)

By the way, if you do create a character like that, let me know. I'll immediatelly check him/her out^_^
 
Meg said:
That's what I was trying to say. I was trying to say that DmC Dante and DMC Dante are two different versions of the same character. So they are the same but also different. :confused:

And its not a matter of "right" or "wrong" its a matter of opinion.
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The last line of your post i disagree. Because Hideki Kamiya created the character Dante. And though it was based off from Divine Comedy, as a different character DMC 1 Dante is the one that is the TRUE Dante in DMC series.

Here is another example. If DmC 2, 3 and 4 came and they were all produced by different game developers. DmC 1's Dante that was created by Ninja theory would be the TRUE Dante of DmC. With that said DMC Dante is the character that is Dante in DMC serie. The Dante in DMC 2, 3 and 4, and DmC has nothing on DMC 1 Dante.

P.S My character ideas are flowing in my mind. I try to clean my own mind of "patterns" (like ideas from characters ive seen in movies, games etc). I gotta filter the ideas that are not original or is from a other character.

But i got some "pure" ideas so far :)
 
CoolDemon said:
The last line of your post i disagree. Because Hideki Kamiya created the character Dante. And though it was based off from Divine Comedy, as a different character DMC 1 Dante is the one that is the TRUE Dante in DMC series.

Here is another example. If DmC 2, 3 and 4 came and they were all produced by different game developers. DmC 1's Dante that was created by Ninja theory would be the TRUE Dante of DmC. With that said DMC Dante is the character that is Dante in DMC serie. The Dante in DMC 2, 3 and 4, and DmC has nothing on DMC 1 Dante.
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Oh forget it! You can think whatever you want. XD
 
Didn't the reboot happen because DMC4 did not sale as well as Capcom hoped? DMC didn't need a reboot, all it needed was to have Mundus return and Dante kick his butt. Simple, very simple. So simple I've actually made myself speechless. I now have intense anger towards Capcom all of a sudden. *Lays down*
 
CoolDemon, if you really don't believe or can't see that DmC Dante is based on DMC Dante, that they both come from the same source, then you are both blind and ignorant. But oh well, you can float on your little cloud of denial if you want.
 
^ True words Angel. I also dislike when haters and fans of reboot makes some riots on threads.
For me, my side in case is neutral
 
yes ragewars are bad! D: i am a strong supporter of the game, but i am willing to view other's arguements as long as they are presented in a legitimate fashion.
 
Asmodaius said:
CoolDemon, if you really don't believe or can't see that DmC Dante is based on DMC Dante, that they both come from the same source, then you are both blind and ignorant. But oh well, you can float on your little cloud of denial if you want.
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I clearly understand that DmC Dante is based off DMC Dante. But you speak as if DmC Dante and DMC Dante are based off a mutual source. DmC Dante is based off DMC Dante.

That's it. DMC Dante is the source. No "other" source. And you can float on your ignorance if you like.

Meg said:
Oh forget it! You can think whatever you want. XD
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Meg i am not trying to be rude or anything, but i don't "believe" or "think" DMC1 Dante is right - I know it.
 
Asmodaius said:
This is EXACTLY the point I tried to come across to you! But to me it sounded like you thought that DmC Dante had absolutely no connection to DMC Dante...
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The reason why the point didn't come across me is because of the bold part in this quote of yours:

Asmodaius said:
CoolDemon, if you really don't believe or can't see that DmC Dante is based on DMC Dante, that they both come from the same source, then you are both blind and ignorant. But oh well, you can float on your little cloud of denial if you want.
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By saying that DmC Dante and DMC 1 Dante both come from the same source your implying that DMC 1 Dante is based off a source, and that the source is also a source of which DmC Dante is also based on.

DMC 1 Dante character source = based off Divine Comedy
DmC Dante = based off DMC 1 Dante.

DmC Dante has connection to DMC 1 Dante.

It's not my fault that you wrote things that's not true. That they both come from same source.
 
I believe i said DMC Dante is based off Divine Comedy - What's the confusion?
CoolDemon said:
DMC 1 Dante character source = based off Divine Comedy
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And though DmC Dante is based off DMC 1 Dante, and DMC 1 Dante is based off Divine Comedy, that does not mean they are based off same thing.

For example if DmC Dante was based off Divine Comedy and not DMC 1 Dante then DmC Dante wouldn't have similar things in common with DMC 1 Dante such as demon powers.
 
I am aware that DMC is based off the Divine Comedy, but then in some way, so is DmC Dante.

I see it like this:

The Divine Comedy > Devil May Cry (the original series) > Devil May Cry (the reboot)

Both games derive from the same source. Sure, DmC is a step further, as it is a rendition of the original series, but they may still share the same source. Neither of us can be certain about any of this though, since we have yet to get proof of one or the other from the developers.
 
^ they were talking specifically about DmC Dante having an actual connection to Divine Comedy as a direct link, rather than JUST the indirect link of DMC Dante. Also, I believe that above, they were saying that DMC Dante and DmC Dante are based off of the same source as in, both DMC 2,3,4 Dantes (specifically 3, though) AND DmC Dante are based off of DMC 1 Dante. Therefore the connection to Zeus and Odin actually makes a lot of sense. Plus, DmC Dante CAN BE DMC Dante in a Parallel Universe....different origins maybe, different events, but same guy. It's like, you in a parallel universe would not be the exact same....that would be stupid..what would the point of PARALLEL universes, both fictional and physical, be?
 
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