Why the reboot happened

[CoolDemon]

I am aware that DMC is based off the Divine Comedy, but then in some way, so is DmC Dante.

I see it like this:

The Divine Comedy > Devil May Cry (the original series) > Devil May Cry (the reboot)

Both games derive from the same source. Sure, DmC is a step further, as it is a rendition of the original series, but they may still share the same source. Neither of us can be certain about any of this though, since we have yet to get proof of one or the other from the developers.

It's POSSIBLE that Ninja theory may have used SOME ideas from Divine Comedy. And it's even possible that they may have come up with ideas from looking at Dante's Inferno the game as well.

But DmC Dante is first and foremost based on DMC 1 Dante. If there can be more than one source as you suggest then DMC 1 Dante is the primary source.

I am curious, what ideas in DmC do you think is borrowed from Divine Comedy?

P.S If DmC is based off Divine Comedy directly then that would make DmC a parallel universe of Divine Comedy.

 

[Asmodaius]

^ they were talking specifically about DmC Dante having an actual connection to Divine Comedy as a direct link, rather than JUST the indirect link of DMC Dante. Also, I believe that above, they were saying that DMC Dante and DmC Dante are based off of the same source as in, both DMC 2,3,4 Dantes (specifically 3, though) AND DmC Dante are based off of DMC 1 Dante. Therefore the connection to Zeus and Odin actually makes a lot of sense. Plus, DmC Dante CAN BE DMC Dante in a Parallel Universe....different origins maybe, different events, but same guy. It's like, you in a parallel universe would not be the exact same....that would be stupid..what would the point of PARALLEL universes, both fictional and physical, be?

EXACTLY!
I'm glad there are SOME people here who get it!

 

[GamblingGambitCloud]

It's POSSIBLE that Ninja theory may have used SOME ideas from Divine Comedy. And it's even possible that they may have come up with ideas from looking at Dante's Inferno the game as well.

But DmC Dante is first and foremost based on DMC 1 Dante. If there can be more than one source as you suggest then DMC 1 Dante is the primary source.

I am curious, what ideas in DmC do you think is borrowed from Divine Comedy?

P.S If DmC is based off Divine Comedy directly then that would make DmC a parallel universe of Divine Comedy.

how so? It could be directly based off of D.C. with aspects of DMC sprinkled in...and who says that DmC is in fact based off of DMC 1 and NOT DMC 3? I'm hearing a lot of assumptions here. Let's just list facts that we know. A wise man once said, let's shape theories to fit facts and not facts to fit theories.

 

[V's patron]

I think it should also have aspects of the anime/manga space hunter cobra as that anime was the basis of dmc according to kamiya and resident evil as dmc started out as a resident evil game.

 

[CoolDemon]

how so? It could be directly based off of D.C. with aspects of DMC sprinkled in...and who says that DmC is in fact based off of DMC 1 and NOT DMC 3? I'm hearing a lot of assumptions here. Let's just list facts that we know. A wise man once said, let's shape theories to fit facts and not facts to fit theories.

Good point. But DMC 3 Dante is pretty much the same Dante as DMC 1. Considering DMC 3 story is before Vergil goes to demon world and DMC 1 after. And the character of DMC 1 Dante is pretty much preserved in DMC 3. But if DmC's primary source is D.C and secondary is DMC then DmC is more a D.C game like Dante's Inferno than a DMC game. And if i am wrong about something i will admit it. Unlike SOME people i am not condescending for no reason at all.

But let me repeat, if DmC is directly based of D.C (primary source) then it makes DmC more a D.C game than a DMC game. Because Dante's Inferno is a D.C game. And if DmC is directly influenced by D.C then...

 

[Asmodaius]

Devil May Cry 1-4 Dante = DMC Dante.
Devil May Cry reboot = DmC Dante.

Alright?

And if i am wrong about something i will admit it. Unlike SOME people i am not condescending for no reason at all.

But let me repeat, if DmC is directly based of D.C (primary source) then it makes DmC more a D.C game than a DMC game. Because Dante's Inferno is a D.C game. And if DmC is directly influenced by D.C then...

How cute of you to include me in the conversation when it was rather unnecessary. I must have struck a nerve or something.
I have yet to see you admit you are wrong with anything we've discussed so far. It really does seem you blindedly believe in everything you say, even if people have time and time again proved to you that it is wrong.

Meh, what's the point in discussing with you anyways, you keep going in the same loop without even trying to understand what others are saying. There's no point in trying to make you understand, you have already completely settled with your own ideas of how everything is.

I've said my part, so I might as well just leave this thread for now until something worth discussing comes up.

 

[CoolDemon]

I keep telling myself what's point of replying to you when you have been condescending in past for no reasons and don't seem to want to stop, and also don't realize when you word yourself incorrectly which causes misunderstandings. And it's cute of you to include me in your post too:

EXACTLY!
I'm glad there are SOME people here who get it!

 

[GamblingGambitCloud]

^guys guys guys....stop the fighting...we want this forum to be as peaceful as possible

 

[DeamonslayeR]

^guys guys guys....stop the fighting...we want this forum to be as peaceful as possible

yeah Gamblinggambitcloud (is there a short version ) is right guy's lets keep the forum peacefull

 

[Angel]

Ok, seriously now. This has got to stop. Asmo and CoolDemon, you are both intelligent and articulate members who really ought to be above this sort of thing. You don't see eye to eye and that's cool - but biting at each other and deliberately wording your posts to garner some sort of adverse reaction is the sort of thing I'd expect from far less mature people. You are both better than that so please let's see an end to all this nonsense. Agree to disagree, ignore each other, take a weekend break together - I don't really care, just stop needling each other and turning every thread into a row between the two of you.

 

[wallenb]

Devil May Cry 1-4 Dante = DMC Dante.
Devil May Cry reboot = DmC Dante.

This is the easiest way to understand.
They're two Dante's. PARALLEL UNIVERSERSE or just made by different people
DMC1 is the source before the D.C. because in comparison, its too much of a stretch and takes a lot of imagination.
As for DMC23 and 4. The story is incomplete and theres nothing Capcom is going to do about it.
NT has Capcoms permission to make a new Devil May Cry game. Even though its not a direct cannon of the original. It's stands on its own, in its own way, which is approved by Capcom.

 

[Meg]

Considering the fact that this thread is about why the reboot happened and not about which Dante is the right Dante or whatever we are better off just dropping the issue or making a new thread for it since its off topic. Okay?

 

[lorddemolatron]

Considering the fact that this thread is about why the reboot happened and now about which Dante is the right Dante or whatever we are better off just dropping the issue or making a new thread for it since its off topic. Okay?

Exacly my point of view Meg. But some people never grow up

 

[Asmodaius]

take a weekend break together

I suggest we go to Hawaii. Always wanted to go there, and they seem like such a peaceful people living there, so maybe they could reflect that on us. ^^

DMC1 is the source before the D.C. because in comparison, its too much of a stretch and takes a lot of imagination.

Yeah, this sounds rather reasonable. However, the names are inspired from the Divine Comedy along with other holy/biblical origins. The very story of the Divine Comedy and the story of Devil May Cry are rather different from one another though, so yeah, I definately see your point.

 

[CoolDemon]

I want to make one thing clear. It may seem like i am ignorant or arrogant, but i have understood things that have been said by many people. I have disagreed MOSTLY to one thing and that's DMC and DmC Dante is not based off same source because DmC Dante is based off mostly by DMC Dante which makes DMC Dante the source of which DmC DAnte is based on.

I have been cool with Asmo, and everyone else who discussed with me about DmC Dante and DMC DAnte. If you guys think i am narrow minded person, then i am sorry to hear that. Because believe me it's not the case.

Just wanted to say my last words in this thread.

 

[V's patron]

I think it should be more of a loose adaptation of the divine comedy rather than a straight up adaptation like dante's inferno was.
any ones thoughts.

 

[Tony_Redgrave]

Well, DMC always was a loose adaption. I mean, it had an underworld and devils and some names taken from Divine Comedy, but otherwise it's another thing altogether. Divine Comedy served only as an inspiration for DMC, whereas Dante's Inferno IS a version of the Divine Comedy.

 

[wallenb]

I still say the reboot was needed when the new hardware came out. As for as the story and Dante being rebooted, that will be revealed when the game is released. DMC 4 should of had a more structured control scheme because thats what devil may cry was. Easy to play but difficult to master and dmc 4 dante just made new comers confused with all the styles and what not. And the story for dmc4 was trying to hard to get away from what made all the other dmc games great, and thats Dante.

 

[berto]

The plot in DMC is loosely based off the Devine Comedy, mostly only Inferno, but the character of Dante was based off a manga character named Cobra from Space Adventure Cobra and on Blade from the original Blade film. It was also Blade, not the Matrix, where DMC got it's insperation.

This new Dante would never be based on a manga character, it's not cool enough to be based on manga characters so it's not NT's Dante, and I see nothing of Blade in this Dante.