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Vergil DMC 4 set prior to DMC 3

scionicspectre said:
*raises hand* I'll admit, I'm one of the people who was hard to convince.
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Well, it's not our fault Vergil looks like he belongs in grad school.

He's 18? In what, dog years??


Anyway, they might make the twins older in DMC3 -- now that his face looks more... photogenic.

Graphical enhancements on existing characters are a pain if even just one detail ends up being out of place...
 
I can attest to that as someone who regularly updates low-polygon models. ^^; It can be rather demanding to focus on that in addition to every other consideration that needs to be made while modeling. That's why I tend to prefer a flexible workflow that starts with a sculpt.

Even still, they have the brilliant work of the CG artists to work with, so I'd say I envy their wealth of reference.
 
DragonMaster2010 said:
I thought that was reference to that manga of DMC3 that took place a year before the game
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Yeah, but that's since been written out of canon. Now that both the Deadly Fortune novel and Vergil's (short) DMC4SE storyline have taken place before DMC3, people are now starting to think that it might refer to this, instead.

Sure, Dante and Vergil may have met a year ago -- but unless everyone was hallucinating those Alice in Wonderland demons (what?), Vergil and Dante could've met anywhere in relation to the hellgates or temen-ni-gru.
 
Foxtrot94 said:
Bitterness?
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I dunno why, but this vibe that they do everything to undermine their own games is strong for me. I mean WE know it's stupid decision. And they know it as well. So why? Why they insist on doing it? Why not put a little more effort in your own game? They could sell solid million with it, if they shown a little more effort.
 
Innsmouth said:
I dunno why, but this vibe that they do everything to undermine their own games is strong for me. I mean WE know it's stupid decision. And they know it as well. So why? Why they insist on doing it? Why not put a little more effort in your own game? They could sell solid million with it, if they shown a little more effort.
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Ok, but what does bitterness have to do with it?
 
Foxtrot94 said:
Ok, but what does bitterness have to do with it?
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I just have feeling that they trying to find a way to leave old franchises behind like they did with DS, Onimusha and Dino Crisis. Maybe they were so ****ed by both DMC4 and DmC controversies so they decided to put as least effort as possible
 
Awake said:
Greg has confirmed that Vergil will have a story that sets place before DMC 3 but his battles are non canon
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Good. None of the wild theories about it being set after 3 or 1 ever made any sense.

Vergilius said:
Yeah, but that's since been written out of canon.
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Since when? Last I checked, the manga were canon.
 
Innsmouth said:
I dunno why, but this vibe that they do everything to undermine their own games is strong for me. I mean WE know it's stupid decision. And they know it as well. So why? Why they insist on doing it? Why not put a little more effort in your own game? They could sell solid million with it, if they shown a little more effort.
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It's hard to do everything when you got no money in the bank to do everything.
 
Capcom is only looking to make the safest bets possible no matter how out of touch it also sounds.

My guess that when it comes to the digital only release over here in the west, it's because Capcom is thinking a little bit like Square-Enix. They care a little more about their local Japanese audience than they do their international. They don't have much money to get Limited Editions shipped everywhere, so they keep the release strictly to a part of the world where they think it will sell more. The one getting the short end of the stick, is the side they don't want to risk losing more money than they have to on. Bitterness? Get real.

Is it very valid of an excuse? I don't know. It seems rather silly, but this is Capcom. We know they can be one of the companies out of touch with the industry and total idiots. But at least just be content that you're getting it in the first place. I doubt this Special Edition will make big bank anyway. There's no way it'll break a million that's for sure.

It's just one of those many smaller projects that don't cost much to make, but will help keep Capcom afloat. Any little thing will help them at this point.
 
Veloran said:
DMC2 is way, way into the future, and totally unrelated to Vergil in any way, so I don't see why that would be the case.
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They need to address DMC2 sooner or later and while Vergil was not part of it, doesn't mean he can't be made in some way one of the wheels that set the events of the game in motion or that his fate will tie in to events of that game's possible sequel.

Arius could have come from Fortuna originally, and left island as result of something happening while Vergil was there. Agnus' research, focusing a lot on Yamato and pieces of Nelo Angelo's armor, could have served as basis for creation of Secretaries. And so on.
 
Viper said:
They need to address DMC2 sooner or later and while Vergil was not part of it, doesn't mean he can't be made in some way one of the wheels that set the events of the game in motion or that his fate will tie in to events of that game's possible sequel.

Arius could have come from Fortuna originally, and left island as result of something happening while Vergil was there. Agnus' research, focusing a lot on Yamato and pieces of Nelo Angelo's armor, could have served as basis for creation of Secretaries. And so on.
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That all seems pretty forced though. If they have to address DMC2, they better make a new game entirely instead of forcing Vergil into it in the SE.
 
Foxtrot94 said:
That all seems pretty forced though. If they have to address DMC2, they better make a new game entirely instead of forcing Vergil into it in the SE.
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Well those were my quick ideas to show there is a way if one tries it, and last I checked I'm not Capcom's official writer. XD
But why is it forced? I think from the pen of a good writer it could be a nice example of butterfly effect, butterfly flapping it's wings on one side of the world causes hurricanes on the other. Some small event occuring at certain point in time and space, almost insignificant when it happened, becomes the starting point of something grand.
 
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