The flag issue

[ZeroLove]

Sorry then, I didn't know you weren't a jerk. I stand corrected.
You just make a huge deal out of nothing, imo. I don't know what car you're talking about though, but it doesn't really matter. From the posts I have read of yours on this forum, it generally looks like you just want to complain about something. Like you have a checklist or something. Complain about the hair, check. Complain about the clothes, check. Complain about the weapon, check. I was hoping to get away from that when I left the official Capcom message board, but I guess it is unavoidable.
Back on topic though, I think the Union Jack is nothing but a personal tribute. I don't think it's to tell anyone about them as a company, just to mark the new Dante as theirs. Or maybe it is just a design choice that has nothing to do with anything other than Ninja Theory being a British company and they simply felt like it would look cool. Anyways, it is their design of Dante and Capcom approved of it, right? Capcom, the rightful owners of Dante, approved of the new design.
You can like it or not like it, but it won't change anything. If you are like the other haters on the Capcom mb, then I know this won't budge your opinion one bit and you will probably just continue ranting about the things you don't like. So this discussion and this overall thread is pointless, imo. It's just a flag. Deal with it. Move on with your life. Do something joyful instead of being on a forum and complain about something you hate. It's Xmas for gods sake. You should spend your time with people you love and do something that makes you happy.
I don't think you are a jerk though. It just looked like you were picking on him for some grammar mistakes which I thought was really petty of you, especially when you made one yourself. Not everyone has English as their main language so spelling errors and grammar mistakes happens now and then. There are also people who write typically in 'internet typing', writing 'u' instead of 'you', stuff like that. Like I write 'imo' instead of 'in my opinion'. If you asked because you didn't understand the question, then I'm sorry for my post above.
And sorry for the wall of text.

 

[CoolDemon]

Dude there is no PURPOSE. The flag is a flag. The Union Jack. Great Britain's flag. Ninja Theory's country's flag. It's called nationalistic pride! There is no ulterior motive. This isn't some blockbuster movie. This is just normal. Ninja Theory's only saying "We're British!" in a way less obvious than actually writing it out on the box or in the game.
This isn't some propaganda technique. It's a tribute. A reference. An easter egg, if you'd take it that way!

Well that just proves what i said at end of my first post: That DmC is taking a british standpoint.

Sorry then, I didn't know you weren't a jerk. I stand corrected.
You just make a huge deal out of nothing, imo. I don't know what car you're talking about though, but it doesn't really matter. From the posts I have read of yours on this forum, it generally looks like you just want to complain about something. Like you have a checklist or something. Complain about the hair, check. Complain about the clothes, check. Complain about the weapon, check. I was hoping to get away from that when I left the official Capcom message board, but I guess it is unavoidable.
Back on topic though, I think the Union Jack is nothing but a personal tribute. I don't think it's to tell anyone about them as a company, just to mark the new Dante as theirs. Or maybe it is just a design choice that has nothing to do with anything other than Ninja Theory being a British company and they simply felt like it would look cool. Anyways, it is their design of Dante and Capcom approved of it, right? Capcom, the rightful owners of Dante, approved of the new design.
You can like it or not like it, but it won't change anything. If you are like the other haters on the Capcom mb, then I know this won't budge your opinion one bit and you will probably just continue ranting about the things you don't like. So this discussion and this overall thread is pointless, imo. It's just a flag. Deal with it. Move on with your life. Do something joyful instead of being on a forum and complain about something you hate. It's Xmas for gods sake. You should spend your time with people you love and do something that makes you happy.
I don't think you are a jerk though. It just looked like you were picking on him for some grammar mistakes which I thought was really petty of you, especially when you made one yourself. Not everyone has English as their main language so spelling errors and grammar mistakes happens now and then. There are also people who write typically in 'internet typing', writing 'u' instead of 'you', stuff like that. Like I write 'imo' instead of 'in my opinion'. If you asked because you didn't understand the question, then I'm sorry for my post above.
And sorry for the wall of text.

You picked on me because you assumed i am a jerk.
And now you assume i don't know of internet language.
English is my third language.

I asked Z218 to understand him better - this is second time i am telling you this. You picked on my grammar mistake because of nothing. Though i wish you picked on my grammar in a friendly matter though as i hope to write better english.

Honestly it's sad i am discussing such thing. But why are you guys discussing it as well? It's weird. I don't celebrate Christmas by the way.

 

[ZeroLove]

:O!!!
Not celebrating XMAS?!?! Now THAT is sad! :'(
Anyways, I apologised and admitted I was wrong. If that's not enough, then there's nothing else I can do. I just hope you wouldn't take it so personally, but you do seem like a passionate person when it comes to things that doesn't matter to many others. Anyways, I'll say it again then. I'm sorry for assuming you were a jerk. Being on very bad mb's it is easy to assume people are jerks, because many of them are. I am all in for just getting back on topic then if you are.

 

[Vezild]

Well that just proves what i said at end of my first post: That DmC is taking a british standpoint.


You picked on me because you assumed i am a jerk.
And now you assume i don't know of internet language.
English is my third language.

I asked Z218 to understand him better - this is second time i am telling you this. You picked on my grammar mistake because of nothing. Though i wish you picked on my grammar in a friendly matter though as i hope to write better english.

Honestly it's sad i am discussing such thing. But why are you guys discussing it as well? It's weird. I don't celebrate Christmas by the way.

Discussing what CD? About this flag jazz? Because it really is sad.
The flag proves NOTHING except NT is British.
They are a gaming company, not some alien race. You're pulling these ideas from thin air my friend. Right out of your gluteus maximus.

 

[CoolDemon]

Discussing what CD? About this flag jazz? Because it really is sad.
The flag proves NOTHING except NT is British.
They are a gaming company, not some alien race. You're pulling these ideas from thin air my friend. Right out of your gluteus maximus.

Flag alone proves nothing yes. But there is punk theme in DmC. And Punk movement started in UK.

 

[Vezild]

Flag alone proves nothing yes. But there is punk theme in DmC. And Punk movement started in UK.

So? Did it not continue in the US? Did it not become huge all over? I love punk rock. Do I love Great Britain? Nope. I'm not even British. Again, straight out of the arse.

 

[ZeroLove]

Flag alone proves nothing yes. But there is punk theme in DmC. And Punk movement started in UK.

Really? I thought it was German. Germany is known for all that metal music and the festivals and all, so I thought it came from there. I don't think Dante looks punk though, he looks more pop to me.

 

[Vergil'sBitch]

Punk definitely british.... Sex pistols and all that, plus the government, monarchy and the underdogs treated like s**t. Definitely british.

 

[Vezild]

Really? I thought it was German. Germany is known for all that metal music and the festivals and all, so I thought it came from there. I don't think Dante looks punk though, he looks more pop to me.

Punk rock and heavy metal are too very different things my man.

 

[CoolDemon]

So? Did it not continue in the US? Did it not become huge all over? I love punk rock. Do I love Great Britain? Nope. I'm not even British. Again, straight out of the arse.

Tameem Antoniades said that DMC Dante is no longer cool. And that they must make him cool according to today. THAT's Ninja theory's reason for making DmC Dante into a punk character.
Punk movement was in 1970s in UK, and 1990s in US.

DMC Dante was created in 2001. If your gonna update a character according to what's cool nowdays will you base it on a Punk movement that was in 1970s/1990s? But Tameem said they would update Dante to make him reflect what's cool nowdays.

But instead they go and update him with old style?

 

[V's patron]

@cooldemon- thanks but i think i rather put that on his t-shirt than his jacket.

Should dante be punk?

 

[Vezild]

Tameem Antoniades said that DMC Dante is no longer cool. And that they must make him cool according to today.
Punk movement was in 1970s in UK, and 1990s in US.

DMC Dante was created in 2001. If your gonna update a character according to what's cool nowdays will you base it on a Punk movement that was in 1970s/1990s? But Tameem said they would update Dante to make him reflect what's cool nowdays.

But instead they go and update him with old style?

That has nothing to do with the conversation you and I were just having. You totally changed the subject. And you know what? DmC seems more modern than the original series for reasons that have nothing to do with punk rock.
Besides the most punk I see here is his hair.

 

[Vezild]

@cooldemon- thanks but i think i rather put that on his t-shirt than his jacket.

Should dante be punk?

It's not a question of "should" but "is". Because if you ask should Dante be punk, it means you have control which none of us have.

 

[CoolDemon]

That has nothing to do with the conversation you and I were just having. You totally changed the subject. And you know what? DmC seems more modern than the original series for reasons that have nothing to do with punk rock.

No, your saying that Punk movement went over to other parts of world. And i agree. But is Punk movement only thing in world? There world HAS TONS of things that's cool.
UNITED states are 52 states not 1. And there is so many trends.

This has exactly with what we are discussing. I am trying to prove to you that DmC has a british standpoint. That they influenced "What's cool" based on UK.
Your making it seem as if Punk movement is the only "movement" or thing in the world. We live in 2011, Punk movement was in 1970s in UK and 1990s in US.
Realistic art style makes things look modern. Not that it has anything with what we are discussing.

And Tameem expressed DMC Dante was old, and that's their reason for making DmC Dante a punk character. Punk movement is probably dead in many places other than UK where the clothing have become "normal". Because it started there.

 

[Vezild]

No, your saying that Punk movement went over to other parts of world. And i agree. But is Punk movement only thing in world? There world HAS TONS of things that's cool.
UNITED states are 52 states not 1. And there is so many trends.

This has exactly with what we are discussing. I am trying to prove to you that DmC has a british standpoint. That they influenced "What's cool" based on UK.
Your making it seem as if Punk movement is the only "movement" or thing in the world. We live in 2011, Punk movement was in 1970s in UK and 1990s in US.
Realistic art style makes things look modern. Not that it has anything with what we are discussing.

Explain to me how I've been saying the Punk movement's the only movement in the world. You're changing the subject all over the place, shovings words down my throat, and proving nothing because you're just avoiding the truth. YOU CAN'T PROVE ANYTHING.
And the US has 50 states and a territory or two.

 

[Railazel]

Has anyone came to the conclusion that the flag might serve litle to no purpose at all? I mean they could have put it there just to put it there, its not like they have any major reason to rep their country. In fact, there is nothing strongly concluding that they are even trying to rep Britain at all, that's just our assumption.

 

[ZeroLove]

Tameem Antoniades said that DMC Dante is no longer cool. And that they must make him cool according to today. THAT's Ninja theory's reason for making DmC Dante into a punk character.
Punk movement was in 1970s in UK, and 1990s in US.

DMC Dante was created in 2001. If your gonna update a character according to what's cool nowdays will you base it on a Punk movement that was in 1970s/1990s? But Tameem said they would update Dante to make him reflect what's cool nowdays.

But instead they go and update him with old style?

This topic really isn't about the flag, is it? You're really offended about what Tameem Antoniades have said, huh? Why do you take it so personally? Why do you have this inner hatred and why do you keep feeding it on a mb like this? If you want to talk about these things in private then you are more than welcome to write me an IM, because your negative vibes are really bad and it would be nice if we could find a way to balance them out. It's not good for you and it's not good for the other users on this forum.

 

[CoolDemon]

Explain to me how I've been saying the Punk movement's the only movement in the world. You're changing the subject all over the place, shovings words down my throat, and proving nothing because you're just avoiding the truth. YOU CAN'T PROVE ANYTHING.
And the US has 50 states and a territory or two.

Do you even know what we are discussing?

 

[Vezild]

Has anyone came to the conclusion that the flag might serve litle to no purpose at all? I mean they could have put it there just to put it there, its not like they have any major reason to rep their country.

Couldn't have said it better myself.

 

[Vezild]

Do you even know what we are discussing?

Do you???? Because I don't know anymore.