So new DMC animated series are coming to Netflix

[V's patron]

Seeing all this extra footage. It interests me how much of the first season will actually cover the events of DMC3 proper. There's apparently only eight episodes and so far it seems like this will just be the prologue, introducing Dante and Lady as characters and likely ending with Vergil/Arkham as a teaser for a season 2.

If so, then that will be a curious decision and I'm not sure how both newcomers and existing fans will react to that once the whole season is out.

merging the manga with the early levels of 3 felt like a good way to streamline it.

 

[berto]

The extra footage has me a bit disinterested. There is the whole thing going on in the anime where they make it clear that Vergil was antagonistic about the amulets which I can assume is a set up for him wanting the two pieces in the show. It's a blatant establishment of behavior that's rather silly. Yeah, it's all over anime and comics where they foreshadow this attitude from the start to reflect in the present. The issue was that Vergil and Dante weren't these overdone 'characters' in the original story. They were kids. The scene in DMC1 where Dante remembers when they got the amulets as a birthday present they sound like just average ass kids who want chocolate. Turning them into these overdefined characters was silly and I'm losing interest with every step.

Me and a friend had this discussion after watching Prometheus. In the original Alien the whole cast was just a bunch of people. They had defining personalities but when you got down to it they were a group of average schmucks. Nothing overblown about their characters. The most defining thing about them was their facial hair. In Prometheus, though, people were so much more of a character; some bordered on stereotypes, especially the nerd and the Irish dude. While the crew of the Nostromos looked like average people walking down the street the crew of the Prometheus looked like characters in a movie. Same here. The kids in DMC1 sounded like kids while the kids in that music video looked like over dramatized characters in an anime.

 

[DoomSlayer87_Sss]

The closer it gets to this the more uneasy i feel about it, not sure why tbh. Hopefully watching it in japanese will help, and the combat and action will hold up and it won't have bad pacing or too much filler.

 

[Lain]

Personally, I think the greatest hurdle this show faces is the same one that say the upcoming live action God of War show faces. The games are essentially a power fantasy and to remove the gameplay is to remove the biggest reason why people enjoy them. From what we've seen of the footage so far, they haven't tried to compensate this by giving a deep insight into Dante's character or anything.

I will be very curious to see what (if any) lasting impact this show has on the franchise and its fans.

 

[V's patron]

@DoomSlayer87_Sss
I feel underwhelmed. It looks fine but it feels too safe for me. As much as people hated the reboot, the debut trailer had an x factor that got me theorizing. This series doesn't have that yet.

even though I like DMC3, it feels like its just riding its coattails than really doing its own thing.

 

[DoomSlayer87_Sss]

I honestly feel like i may come back to this when it is over, and appreciate the original anime more but who knows. I genuinely hope i am wrong and it blows me away, but i have a niggling feeling that it will underwhelm and i will have a lot of facepalm and audible sigh moments.

 

[Lain]

Rest in Peace, Strawberry Sundae...

 

[DoomSlayer87_Sss]

Nice little speed feat at least, him saving people mid explosion.

 

[Benny]

I had an ick when they first gave snippets of anime already had a scene mentioned a girl gave her number written on napkin to Dante and he used the napkin to wipe his mouth instead. Show isn't even on yet and character already has attitude, not a good sign. Sure maybe he can have some development later but jeez pick better scenes to advertise

Sigh

 

[Morgan]

Well, that do be a sneak peek that exists.... it comes across as sh*t marketing to have Vergil's appearance be a big teaser at the end of one trailer only to reveal it's a fake a week or two later, even if people did (somehow) guess it was a Plasma.

They should've gotten a better artist for the show. These characters don't look like themselves *except* for the color palette and their names. Vergil looks like if you told someone to draw Kazuya Mishima from memory but they played the first Tekken thirty years ago and vaguely have an impression of Lee Chaolan and have the two of them confused.

 

[berto]

Vergil looks like if you told someone to draw Kazuya Mishima from memory

Actually, except for the hair, I think he's supposed to look like Dante.

 

[XELNAGATYLER]

Well, that do be a sneak peek that exists.... it comes across as sh*t marketing to have Vergil's appearance be a big teaser at the end of one trailer only to reveal it's a fake a week or two later, even if people did (somehow) guess it was a Plasma.

They should've gotten a better artist for the show. These characters don't look like themselves *except* for the color palette and their names. Vergil looks like if you told someone to draw Kazuya Mishima from memory but they played the first Tekken thirty years ago and vaguely have an impression of Lee Chaolan and have the two of them confused.

I've criticized this show a lot, but I actually like how Dante looks, even though the costume itself is quite simplistic.

 

[Morgan]

Actually, except for the hair, I think he's supposed to look like Dante.

Which means Dante also looks like someone trying to draw Kazuya and resulting in Lee.

I didn't stutter, lmao.

The art style and part of the animation is Saturday Morning Cartoon levels of bootycheeks, which is sad because this is supposed to be a sneak peek that's meant to draw more people in to watching the show.

 

[DoomSlayer87_Sss]

Ya it is an odd mix, he has dante's hair from dmc1 and 2, but his face and body from 3, coat from 4 and clothes under that from DmC reboot

Not digging it so far, prefer his DMC3 hair

 

[Lain]

only to reveal it's a fake a week or two later, even if people did (somehow) guess it was a Plasma.

It's less impressive a guess when we realised that the people who attended some kind of Comic Con thing with Shankar were instead granted an extended version of the previous trailer which showed the full scene and so they always knew that it was a Plasma and were trying to farm aura by "predicting" the Plasma reveal ahead of time.

 

[berto]

Which means Dante also looks like someone trying to draw Kazuya and resulting in Lee.

I didn't stutter, lmao.

The art style and part of the animation is Saturday Morning Cartoon levels of bootycheeks, which is sad because this is supposed to be a sneak peek that's meant to draw more people in to watching the show.

Yeah, no denying the similarities. Dante looks more like this guy than his video game designs.

They went through a fe designs, too. So weird that they stuck with this one that looks more like Nero, especially when Nero's voice is coming out of this guy.

Personally, I don't like any of them but they went with an odd choise, just the same.

 

[Morgan]

It's less impressive a guess when we realised that the people who attended some kind of Comic Con thing with Shankar were instead granted an extended version of the previous trailer which showed the full scene and so they always knew that it was a Plasma and were trying to farm aura by "predicting" the Plasma reveal ahead of time.

It's funny since Plasma has never worked like this, ever. When it replicated Dante in DMC1, it couldn't get rid of its telltale electric blue color and single red eye. So somehow people thought they could get away with "predicting" a monster working in a way we've never seen, when no one in their right mind would actually extrapolate that Plasma was magically Doppelganger. Every single aspect of this is lame. Even the part where Adi couldn't even keep that detail to himself, so shame on him. Learn2hype, dude.

Yeah, no denying the similarities. Dante looks more like this guy than his video game designs.

They went through a few designs, too. So weird that they stuck with this one that looks more like Nero, especially when Nero's voice is coming out of this guy.

Personally, I don't like any of them but they went with an odd choise, just the same.

They all look weird, which only furthers my belief that they needed a new artist entirely.

I get the whole "canon kitchen sink" and this being a separate universe from any of the games, but that seems to be the biggest failing so far when we're being blessed with the Kazuya Hairline version of Vergil who was apparently experiencing a receding hairline even as a child (along with the notion that both children aren't children but miniaturized versions of their adult selves, and their personalities and clothing styles largely haven't changed since eight years old), and an 18yo Dante who can look both 18 and 38 in a single frame the minute wrinkles appear in his face, while Vergil permanently looks 38. And both of them have the sharpest jawlines ever despite being their youngest non-child iterations we've ever seen.

It couldn't be that hard to get someone who could capture his actually youthful, almost-babyface features from the highend models they used in 3's CGI renders.

Or in the 2D concepts in Note of Naught

Even the manga artist of the time captured that.

This latest style is like they're trying to cheekily acknowledge the meme of "Dante looks different in every game he's been in", but they're bad at it.

 

[berto]

This is obviously a Japanese hair style. Asian, at the most. Dante was made to look like a Japanese boy band member in 3, according to the artist, and his hair do is the same. This anime has nothing as Japanese as that. It's all 2000's America inspired. They even have that one spin shooting a hole in the ground from Underworld.

We only got a day and a half left to go. Midnight Pacific time, I think it's how Netflix operates. We'll see it all goes down before long. We don't even know if they'll release it weekly or all at once, now that I think about it. How would one even find out, I wonder. Thinking about it in those terms, that tomorrow is the day, I have to admit, I didn't even notice. I don't think I've been this apathetic about a DMC release in ages. Even crappy things got my attention before. Now, I'm kinda just here for this out of obligation.


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[Morgan]

This is obviously a Japanese hair style. Asian, at the most. Dante was made to look like a Japanese boy band member in 3, according to the artist, and his hair do is the same. This anime has nothing as Japanese as that. It's all 2000's America inspired. They even have that one spin shooting a hole in the ground from Underworld.

You can say that, but fans actually knowing that detail requires them to look at outside media. Without the explicit point of reference, people were likening Dante's hairstyle to Justin Bieber, or straight up calling it emo, because long-ish hair that covered the eyes was just called that. Americans weren't regularly listening to J-Rock and knowing about Japanese boy bands unless they were weeaboos.

And it being 2000s America inspired doesn't preclude Dante from actually looking his age or looking like an American boyband member. There are lots of those. At least three of them looked like copypastes of each other, then Green Day came up, and hovering somewhere in the same general orbit was The Jonas Brothers.

Is this really where we're at now? All fans needed was time, and suddenly the "This can't be too Eastern/Japanese! We must appeal to the West" malaise is received (not by you specifically, but general fandom) with open arms and a cry of "this guy understands the assignment! THIS is Dante!"

That DMC is a property in Japan created by the Japanese with their quirks and was still received well overseas suddenly no longer matters; what fans are clamoring for now (as I said, inmates running the asylum) is for some Westerner to give their take on him, loaded with Americanisms to the exclusion of anything remotely perceived as Japanese (save for the fact that the show is "an anime"), portraying Dante as an insecure tryhard with an attitude who calls himself a heartthrob, because his thing is that he straddles the line between being "a hottie that pulls all the girls" and "he fumbles in front of the opposite sex every time", Schrodinger's Playboy, the lamest echo of every fanfiction of him that has romantic elements in it ever, and people are assured that "no, this is what makes him cool, I swear!"

JFC I miss DMC1.

 

[V's patron]

looking back, I wanted two different things from Netflix DMC- a fresh new take and 3 as a starting point. I didn't realize how contradictory they were till now.