Origins of the Nephilim

[Elijah Guerrero]

i bet Mundus goes in there from time to time and gets down and dirty with her. We know he was angry and shocked to find out that she was killed by Dante.

 

[Innsmouth]

Well he has suitable size, besides i think he wants to have something fleshy instead of bony

 

[TWOxACROSS]

Which means nothing, since you provide no proof. It's not in the game, so stop pretending like it somehow relevant.

My apologies at not sifting through the multitude of DmC-related videos all over the internet to provide you with a piece of proof, simply because you refuse to believe it.

I may as well say that Dante is 28 since Tameem made mistake in claiming he's "decade younger than him"

An offhand comment from Tameem talking about how they didn't model a character after him is strikingly different to him stating something as an answer to a question.

Well you started this once again, an once again you back down from your position. You should seriously stop spreading self-insert facts. It's already on the edge with lies.

No where did I back down on my position, man. I said to stop attacking the person making the point, rather than debating the point itself, which is what you're supposed to do in a discussion.

Goblins are goblins. Nobody makes flying unicorns out of them and claim that since they mischievous they are goblins.

Sure, go ahead and take the most extreme end to make your point. Differences are differences, which can be stark or subtle.

Difference is that mythos and mythology are based like I said, on personifications, experiences of past generations, social aspects and natural catastrophes.

And also word-of-mouth, folklore, and fairy tales, which can change many aspects of the mythology depending on the region.

Slapping names left and right adds nothing.

I agree, but you're still ignoring the facts that LordOfDarkness laid out for you that corroborated my point - that a succubus was only more recently depicted solely as caliente mamacita. They were often really ugly in person, and so would sex up dudes in their dreams.

They completely passed the fact that succubus is called like that because she's supposed to be sex demon. It doesn't represented in game, it doesn'T mentioned and there is nothing that points at that.

As I and now Blue_Rose mentioned, there's the entire fact that Virility is marketed entirely around sex appeal and enhancement, and the definition of the word is sexual prowess. That's pretty clear connection, if you can't see it, you need glasses.

Then I go right back to talking about how just because we didn't see the succubus have sex doesn't mean she's not a succubus. I don't remember seeing Morrigan Aensland have sex in any of the games she appeared in, because there were more important things to do than f#ck. Morrigan sure flaunts her sexuality a lot more, but for someone like the DmC succubus, who isn't trying to sex Dante, why would she bother with such a triviality? He barged into his room and threatened to kill her.

It's clearly that the guy has 0 clue about mythology and just slapped it's name because they wanted to make it even more controversy, or just for fancy words. Did she projected beautiful woman image? no. Case closed.

It's a guy who knows more about mythology than a lot of nerds are willing to admit, because a lot of them still think that succubi are only supposed to be attractive, when that's a very contemporary rendition. And why didn't she project a "beautiful woman image"? Because Dante flies in threatening to kill her, and she's not trying to f#ck him. She's not trying to seduce anyone.

Even more unproved fun-fiction that's not in game.

What's being extracted from her is certainly a theory. What isn't is that Virility is a product based solely around sex, and it comes for something called a succubus. Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm~

Like i said both are just slapped definition and holds as much relevance to mythology as 90% of stuff in Supernatural.

Nephilim: yes. Succubus: read that definition about how them being a beautiful woman is a contemporary invention and not exactly how their mythology started out...

In modern fictional representations, a succubus may or may not appear in dreams and is often depicted as a highly attractive seductress or enchantress; whereas, in the past, succubi were generally depicted as frightening and demonic.

"In modern fictional representations" which means more recently. "Whereas, in the past" which means, what came first, how it originated. They were frightful and demonic creatures that projected the image of a beautiful woman well before they were simply beautiful women.

Well that literally won't be possible since she's immobile. Sooo..she can't have intercourse with men. + She exists only in limbo making it once again not possible by mortal men to achieve. Aside from it, it wasn't implied in any way in game, as such it's only raw speculation without any definitive base.

Remember the part about a succubus projecting the image of a beautiful woman? Goes right in line with how Kat can project herself where the hell ever. Not to mention the fact that we've seen firsthand that a very large amount of demon can fit inside a skin suit (Lilith), and those skin suits are exactly how demons persist outside of Limbo. There's a wealth of possibilities and a lot of evidence to support that a DmC succubus could slip into a skin suit and go out for a night on the town, if she were so inclined. Then of course, there's the devs mentioning themselves that that's pretty much how she works; we just so happen to encounter her in a room at a time where she's not sexing people up.

i bet Mundus goes in there from time to time and gets down and dirty with her. We know he was angry and shocked to find out that she was killed by Dante.

I finally have a reason to use this emote! :vomit:

 

[Blue_Rose]

i bet Mundus goes in there from time to time and gets down and dirty with her. We know he was angry and shocked to find out that she was killed by Dante.

Well we've seen Lilith in Mundus's "line of fire", so I would hate to witness this uncanny abomination of an intercourse. :vomit::hungover:

 

[TWOxACROSS]

Well we've seen Lilith in Mundus's "line of fire", so I would hate to witness this uncanny abomination of an intercourse. :vomit::hungover:

Oh gawd. Stop talking about it! It'll go away if you do!

 

[Innsmouth]

My apologies at not sifting through the multitude of DmC-related videos all over the internet to provide you with a piece of proof, simply because you refuse to believe it.

Well than there is nothing to debate. No proof - no argument.

An offhand comment from Tameem talking about how they didn't model a character after him is strikingly different to him stating something as an answer to a question.

Which still was made, and more legit that some vague explanation of some developer that suppose to exist somewhere there.

No where did I back down on my position, man. I said to stop attacking the person making the point, rather than debating the point itself, which is what you're supposed to do in a discussion.

You either use valid facts or you try to make stuff on your own. But than if you assume something you won't state it as a fact.

And also word-of-mouth, folklore, and fairy tales, which can change many aspects of the mythology depending on the region..

even than core aspects remain same. DmC Succubus lacks them. That's whole problem with it.

They were often really ugly in person, and so would sex up dudes in their dreams.

Actually it's wrong. They did had sex with them, so they gather their semen.

As I and now Blue_Rose mentioned, there's the entire fact that Virility is marketed entirely around sex appeal and enhancement, and the definition of the word is sexual prowess. That's pretty clear connection, if you can't see it, you need glasses.

Except like I said it's realistically not possible due to stuff I already explained.

Then I go right back to talking about how just because we didn't see the succubus have sex doesn't mean she's not a succubus. I don't remember seeing Morrigan Aensland have sex in any of the games she appeared in, because there were more important things to do than f#ck. Morrigan sure flaunts her sexuality a lot more, but for someone like the DmC succubus, who isn't trying to sex Dante, why would she bother with such a triviality? He barged into his room and threatened to kill her.

If something not stated in game or any media connected to it, it doesn't exist. Simple as that. As for Morrigan, she did in comics. So it's more legit than anything in DmC.

It's a guy who knows more about mythology than a lot of nerds are willing to admit, because a lot of them still think that succubi are only supposed to be attractive, when that's a very contemporary rendition. And why didn't she project a "beautiful woman image"? Because Dante flies in threatening to kill her, and she's not trying to f#ck him. She's not trying to seduce anyone.

Actually succubi still mainly human in appearance to be able to have sex in the first place. This being told, original succubus was Lilith who first was human in appearance, so it's pretty obvious that guy just picked some scraps of info and just slapped them atop. It's their decision but it still has nothing to do with real mythology.

What's being extracted from her is certainly a theory. What isn't is that Virility is a product based solely around sex, and it comes for something called a succubus. Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm~

It's still based on assumption which makes it's just assumption not the fact.

Nephilim: yes. Succubus: read that definition about how them being a beautiful woman is a contemporary invention and not exactly how their mythology started out...

Umm actually first succubus supposed to be Lilith who had human appearance before her fall. Here's also oldest source for her appearance: http://dbcfaa79b34c8f5dfffa-7d3a62c...2.rackcdn.com/wp-content/uploads/lilith-2.jpg

"In modern fictional representations" which means more recently. "Whereas, in the past" which means, what came first, how it originated. They were frightful and demonic creatures that projected the image of a beautiful woman well before they were simply beautiful women.

Check one link atop.

Remember the part about a succubus projecting the image of a beautiful woman? Goes right in line with how Kat can project herself where the hell ever. Not to mention the fact that we've seen firsthand that a very large amount of demon can fit inside a skin suit (Lilith), and those skin suits are exactly how demons persist outside of Limbo. There's a wealth of possibilities and a lot of evidence to support that a DmC succubus could slip into a skin suit and go out for a night on the town, if she were so inclined. Then of course, there's the devs mentioning themselves that that's pretty much how she works; we just so happen to encounter her in a room at a time where she's not sexing people up.

Kat just can switch between astral and physical planes. It's not some hologram projection. As for whole story about skin suits, once again it's not stuff from the game. I remember they just told Lilith supposed to be satire on face and body surgeries and stuff. So you once again making more stuff up.

 

[LordOfDarkness]

Guys this thread is to discuss Nephilims. The origins of Nephilims and Nephilims in general. Not succubi or the like.

 

[Innsmouth]

ok....sorry. got caught in it again :/

 

[Chancey289]

And you were wrong again. I don't understand it. :facepalm:

Choosing to ignore things in an attempt to benefit your nonsense is just crazy talk. Like, it's not even funny. What is with you? *sigh*

Just seeing that crap is exhausting.

 

[Innsmouth]

And you were wrong again. I don't understand it. :facepalm:

Choosing to ignore things in an attempt to benefit your nonsense is just crazy talk. Like, it's not even funny. What is with you? *sigh*

Just seeing that crap is exhausting.

And how many times I have to ask you to keep off my back? If you have personal issue with me either write PM or leave it. If it's so exhausting to you, there is ignore button which spares both of us lot of trouble.

 

[Chancey289]

Dude, it's just no one can have a discussion with you because you just plug up your ears and flat out ignore everything the other party says. Multiple people have proved you wrong here yet you still just stand by your nonsense. What's your deal? It doesn't make sense.

 

[Innsmouth]

Dude, it's just no one can have a discussion with you because you just plug up your ears and flat out ignore everything the other party says. Multiple people have proved you wrong here yet you still just stand by your nonsense. What's your deal? It doesn't make sense.

I can have discussion with people who won't state their opinion as a fact. Debating with someone who think that everything he says is a impregnable fact, seriously pointless. And you can say all you want, I don't even like arguing for nothing. Just now you once again say it's nonsense, which basically proved that one who plugs ears is you. You just jumps on wagon without even looking who started whole argument.

 

[Chancey289]

*sigh*

 

[Dark Drakan]

No need to get personal guys, discussions are for discussion rather than beating people over head with opinions, at least try to be civil towards each other.

 

[Ronin]

Back to the business about the nephilim please? Why couldn't they explain about them being giants that were destroyed by the great flood until they somehow returned as a new breed in the later centuries?

 

[Jak]

i love that DmC has it's own mythology and that here, in fact the nephilim aren't only a different type of race but that the lord of demons had them killed and not god. i really would have loved to learn more of them.

 

[Elijah Guerrero]

i love that DmC has it's own mythology and that here, in fact the nephilim aren't only a different type of race but that the lord of demons had them killed and not god. i really would have loved to learn more of them.

same here

 

[TWOxACROSS]

Back to the business about the nephilim please? Why couldn't they explain about them being giants that were destroyed by the great flood until they somehow returned as a new breed in the later centuries?

It's not really a matter of "why couldn't they" so much as their version of the nephilim are not the same in the biblical sense. In DmC's universe, nephilim were always the offspring of angels and demons, so no need to justify and explain why they weren't giants sired by angels and birthed by humans.

 

[Ronin]

It's not really a matter of "why couldn't they" so much as their version of the nephilim are not the same in the biblical sense. In DmC's universe, nephilim were always the offspring of angels and demons, so no need to justify and explain why they weren't giants sired by angels and birthed by humans.

I would like for the new breed of nephilim to be born in a DMC movie.

Though with the giants perished by the great flood and with David defeating the last of their kind... a Philistine, Goliath. The nephilim were a memory. Until a new breed of nephilim were born by a traitorous demon and an angel.

Perhaps with Sparda, he'll be the only demon to see the light. A witness of Christ and turns on his evil master and kind for the side of good. And Eva would be his other support too.