DarkSlayer54
Well-known Member
Right after reading your post I noticed this video on the youtube page:
My thoughts after playing through DmC: Devil May Cry
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Chancey289
Fake Geek Girl.
I think more people would agree that the last good Sonic games were Sonic Adventure 1 and 2.
Chancey289
Fake Geek Girl.
No one really cared about Nero and they have every reason not to. Not just because he replaced Dante. This dude who looked exactly like Dante just seems pointless when he's just also trying to act like Dante and shares an uninteresting romance with a cardboard cut out girlfriend. He's pussywhipped. Plus all he adds is just what the demon arm could do because you're still slashing and shooting like you do with Dante. Then in DmC the demon grab and angel lifts are links to what Nero's arm and Vergil's teleportation introduced to combat so there you go.
How games have evolved into a medium that can rival production values just as much as movies then the standard that video games have set for them exist. I started playing games on the NES and the SNES was my very first console. Video games grew up just like I did at times for better or worst but still have a standard. When a series like Devil May Cry always tried to tell a story and actually attempt to fill in those areas then it all becomes part of the final product. I think Devil May Cry 1, 3, and DmC are good games in the franchise because it actually fills in everything Devil May Cry has to offer in a better manner. DMC 2 and 4 are the bad ones and they have every reason to be terrible and deserve no excuse. If DmC gave me an actual reason to hate it then I would spare no shortage of grief or flaming but the reason why I won't demean DmC because it is a good game that doesn't deserve it. It's not perfect but it sure is still damn good and one of the good Devil May Cry games. I can simply chalk up the people against it just upset because its different or isn't their own personal fanfiction no matter how they try to dice it.
I can still point out the flaws and bs that was in the original games as well as pointing out the flaws in DmC. I'm all for the continuation of the reboot because it is honestly the best way to go with this series at this point regardless what the butthurt fanboys may think. DmC improves on the originals no question in certain aspects and before you turn around and accuse me of not being a fan I assure you my nostalgic heartstrings still put the original Devil May Cry as my favorite in the entire series. One thing is for certain and it is not an opinion but an uncomfortable fact you just don't want to accept, DmC is a kick ass Devil May Cry game that is worthy of its name and better than 2 and 4. Quit praising 4 because it was a lazy cash grab and nothing more. This fanbase hated 4 anyway so this sudden change of heart is stupid.
As a fan of this franchise that's been playing the series since the VERY start, I think I know more about Devil May Cry than most and also know what its all about. DmC still delivers what Devil May Cry is all about but in a much needed refreshing manner. Hell, I actually liked that reveal trailer for DmC everyone got upset about because I saw Devil May Cry getting ambitious and I would be very narrow minded and ignorant of me to condemn it just because it's different. For every crappy reboot like Superman Returns we get also good ones like The Dark Knight and The Amazing Spider-Man. Thankfully DmC falls into the latter category still paying homage to its ancestors while offering a fresh take for the newer generation of gamers and as a veteran Devil May Cry fan I don't feel betrayed. Why should you? RE 6 was a betrayal. What they did with MegaMan was hurtful. I have no reason to defend Capcom but giving it to Ninja Theory was one of the more smarter decisions they made in a long time. I want DmC 2 and I don't care what everyone else says. Go back and play your sh!tty 4. I'm more excited to see where one of my favorite franchises of all time goes from here and I don't think that's a bad thing at all.
How games have evolved into a medium that can rival production values just as much as movies then the standard that video games have set for them exist. I started playing games on the NES and the SNES was my very first console. Video games grew up just like I did at times for better or worst but still have a standard. When a series like Devil May Cry always tried to tell a story and actually attempt to fill in those areas then it all becomes part of the final product. I think Devil May Cry 1, 3, and DmC are good games in the franchise because it actually fills in everything Devil May Cry has to offer in a better manner. DMC 2 and 4 are the bad ones and they have every reason to be terrible and deserve no excuse. If DmC gave me an actual reason to hate it then I would spare no shortage of grief or flaming but the reason why I won't demean DmC because it is a good game that doesn't deserve it. It's not perfect but it sure is still damn good and one of the good Devil May Cry games. I can simply chalk up the people against it just upset because its different or isn't their own personal fanfiction no matter how they try to dice it.
I can still point out the flaws and bs that was in the original games as well as pointing out the flaws in DmC. I'm all for the continuation of the reboot because it is honestly the best way to go with this series at this point regardless what the butthurt fanboys may think. DmC improves on the originals no question in certain aspects and before you turn around and accuse me of not being a fan I assure you my nostalgic heartstrings still put the original Devil May Cry as my favorite in the entire series. One thing is for certain and it is not an opinion but an uncomfortable fact you just don't want to accept, DmC is a kick ass Devil May Cry game that is worthy of its name and better than 2 and 4. Quit praising 4 because it was a lazy cash grab and nothing more. This fanbase hated 4 anyway so this sudden change of heart is stupid.
As a fan of this franchise that's been playing the series since the VERY start, I think I know more about Devil May Cry than most and also know what its all about. DmC still delivers what Devil May Cry is all about but in a much needed refreshing manner. Hell, I actually liked that reveal trailer for DmC everyone got upset about because I saw Devil May Cry getting ambitious and I would be very narrow minded and ignorant of me to condemn it just because it's different. For every crappy reboot like Superman Returns we get also good ones like The Dark Knight and The Amazing Spider-Man. Thankfully DmC falls into the latter category still paying homage to its ancestors while offering a fresh take for the newer generation of gamers and as a veteran Devil May Cry fan I don't feel betrayed. Why should you? RE 6 was a betrayal. What they did with MegaMan was hurtful. I have no reason to defend Capcom but giving it to Ninja Theory was one of the more smarter decisions they made in a long time. I want DmC 2 and I don't care what everyone else says. Go back and play your sh!tty 4. I'm more excited to see where one of my favorite franchises of all time goes from here and I don't think that's a bad thing at all.
ChaserTech
Well-known Member
Just because you weren't a fan of Sonic Colors and Sonic Generations, doesn't mean they weren't good Sonic games. They have changed heavily over the years and brought new things to the table in terms of Sonic gameplay.
Especially when it comes to actual animations and voice lines within the games. Especially from SA1. The animations within SA1 were really terrible at the time, including the lip syncing.
Dante47
Well-known Member
Sonic Colors and Generations were excellent.
I've always felt that the Adventure series was highly overrated and one of the major reasons Sonic '06 failed so heavily.
ChaserTech
Well-known Member
If I recall correctly, Sonic 06 actually had development problems. Basically for being rushed. It would have been a lot better if Sega took their time on it.
It's really hard to take you seriously when you have posts full of heavily pushed opinions.
And to be honest, I have lost a lot of respect for your points since you keep doing this. You've even outright said you were a better player than me in DMC overall without providing actual proof of this. If you really want people to take your words with more than a grain of salt, you really need to refine your points without trying to force your opinions into every little thing. Especially saying stuff like:
"One thing is for certain and it is not an opinion but an uncomfortable fact you just don't want to accept, DmC is a kick ass Devil May Cry game that is worthy of its name and better than 2 and 4. Quit praising 4 because it was a lazy cash grab and nothing more. This fanbase hated 4 anyway so this sudden change of heart is stupid."
Chancey289
Fake Geek Girl.
You took more offense to me saying that than I actually care about. All I'm saying was that everything you do in Devil May Cry are things I have seen already. Been there, done that, got the t-shirt. I don't give a sh!t whether you actually believe me or not and I won't go out and play a game I despise like DMC 4 just to prove myself to you. You admit you came in at DMC 3 where I've been with this series since my Devil May Cry demo showed up with Code Veronica. 4 is a piece of sh!t and that's not an opinion, it's a fact. You may like it but that doesn't excuse it for being a cash grab with Devil May Cry, literally being half a game, and lackluster in every sense being a disgrace to one of my favorite video game series ever.
ChaserTech
Well-known Member
So you knew about how to execute combos, pull of advanced techniques in a stylish manner which would require multiple hours of playtime even though you quit DMC4 the moment you finished it?
I'm sorry but:
Time spent playing a series =/= Skill.
That is an opinion whether you like it or not.
ChaserTech
Well-known Member
A lot of people talk about how DMC4 was "unfinished". However I haven't seen documentation about this. I tried googling it but the only thing that I've seen in terms of being unfinished were the DMC comics.
And yes, the boss battles were really good in my opinion. Even fighting them with Dante proved to be fun whenever I played against the bosses with Dante.
Dante47
Well-known Member
Well, I should have clarified that it felt more unfinished in terms of story as opposed to it's gameplay.
I did enjoy backtracking into the bosses as well, but they felt significantly easier once you knew there weaknesses after playing as Nero. But Dante's move set kept it fresh enough to keep me going.
Lionheart
Solid Ocelot
I'm not your buddy, guuuuy. Not your pal, buddy. Wow, I made a mistake. Sorry I'm not an automaton like some. Or an American/Englishman, for that matter. Don't try to act cool when you make mistakes too, like ''90s'' when it's actually '90s.
Yes, that explains why nobody I know has heard of Inuyasha. I don't think it's as ''well-recognized'' as you think.
Go to the '80s? We're talking about contemporary games here. The fact is, a lot of games, if not all of them, are inspired by some older game or by a mythological story. I'm sure that wasn't always the case, but then, that's pretty logical. Things do start out as something new, at some point.
Lionheart
Solid Ocelot
That's a false claim, no way around it. I already spoke to a number of people who really liked him. I did too. I thought it was courageous of the developers to create a character that shows his emotions more (and a larger number of emotions). I'll admit Kyrie was nothing more than the damsel in distress that was used only as leverage by Sanctus, but that doesn't magically make the entire game ****.
Again, that's an opinion.
And nobody's 'praising' DMC4. That's what you make of it. Nobody's saying DmC is utter crap. Again, that's what you make of what I and other people are saying. You've got some unresolved issues with people who don't like DmC, that much is clear. Fact is, we all have opinions. Yours is no more valid than mine or anyone else's. DmC being ambitious isn't really what I see. It's mainly just another hack and slash game, I'd say. It doesn't really do anything new. Again, I'm not saying it's a bad game.
Opinion. Nobody knows whether it was needed. Furthermore, I think just about everyone here has played DMC from the start, or has played every DMC.
RE4 was the betrayal. They all of a sudden decided to turn an established series with a large fanbase into something quite different. I don't feel any respect for changing a product that drastically without thinking about the existing consumers (and without a truly good reason), and honestly, RE6 is about as good as RE4 - well, a bit worse.
''More smarter'' decisions, eh?
I'm sure you don't. But just dismissing things isn't going to do you any good in life, either. Nobody's trying to make you think DmC is a bad game, so I wonder how confident you are that it's a good game. If you were fully confident, you wouldn't have written that sentence. Either that, or you think it's somehow morally bankrupt to buy DmC/DmC 2, which nobody said.
Soupie
Well-known Member
I don't see why not. We would all benefit greatly from it.
ChaserTech
Well-known Member
Cool, I'll make a thread about it in a bit.
Chancey289
Fake Geek Girl.
You think Resident Evil 4 is on par with 6? Are you f*cking kidding me? Let me say that again ARE YOU MOTHERFUCKING KIDDING ME?! Resident Evil 4 is the best in the entire series and I've played and beat EVERY SINGLE Resident Evil game. Thing is with Resident Evil is that it always did suffer from its fair share of problems as the formula does not age well. Resident Evil had rather clunky controls and you don't know how many times the camera in RE has been an issue. You shoot at things off screen half the time. Resident Evil adding this over the shoulder view was a welcome change and it played better but and I will get on my knees and thank Resident Evil 4 making my most hated gaming activity escort missions actually tolerable. Thing is with Resident Evil 4 is that it was still aware it was a survival horror game and kept what made Resident Evil Resident Evil.
It's Capcom fault they strike gold and no idea how they did it. Resident Evil 4 was a step in the right direction in terms of how you play but again Capcom has no idea how to keep what made something like 4 so great. 5 was ok at best and the co-op with a buddy is the only way to find a little bit of enjoyment but it tried so hard to be 4 in all the wrong ways. Then 6 comes around and entirely abandons its survival horror roots for a mediocre action game which it should be ashamed because this is the series that coined the term survival horror. To say 4 is a betrayal to the series is one of the stupidest things I've ever heard because how many people will honestly back you up in their right mind saying Resident Evil 4 was bad? I hope nobody. I've been a Resident Evil fan since it first showed up and I've beaten every RE game in existence. Even the bad Gameboy games so I assure you I know Resident Evil. You have no clue what you're talking about.
Chancey289
Fake Geek Girl.
The completionist in me came through where I SSS every level on the hardest difficulty and all I'm saying is what you pull off in your videos are nothing I haven't already pulled off. I don't give a f*ck whether you believe me or not because its just a game to me and I'm having more fun with DmC at the moment. Go ahead and enjoy that lazy piece of crap that shouldn't even be worthy of the Devil May Cry name. I'd rather one of my favorite series go out strong and die instead of see another DMC 4.
nightrunner_ks
You are not in control
Your avatar is somewhat...noteworthy...