Is Vergil good or evil in DMC3? And Why?

[Loopy]

I don't think I could say if Vergil was good or bad.
I don't think Vergil would see himself as evil. Everything he has done is to live up to the legacy of his father and gain power. To Vergil, that would not be evil, regardless of what he had to do to achieve that. Especially considering what made Vergil want to become like Sparda. He had his mother die and his brother gone, so he's feeling guilty for that happening. Vergil's thinking that if he had been powerful enough, maybe he could have saved his mother and brother.

Like Vergil says: Might controls everything - and without strength, you cannot protect anything; let alone yourself.

The actions that the player would see as evil stem from a need to gain the strength to protect, and he'll do anything for that.

I've seen comments here saying Vergil killing points to him being evil, but Vergil does justify his killing. Arkham...he didn't like the guy anyway. Vergil was only with him because Arkham was useful. But as soon as Arkham showed weakness by not killing Lady, Vergil had no use for him. Besides, it's not like Arkham was good either. He killed his wife and tried to kill his daughter to gain demonic power.
Then there was Beowulf. The demon attacked first, plus I think killing Beowulf was a chance for Vergil to see if he was as powerful as Sparda.

The only thing I can see as 'good' would be when Vergil tells Dante to get out of the demon world before he is trapped....that's it...

 

[VOLPE]

I don't think I could say if Vergil was good or bad.
I don't think Vergil would see himself as evil. Everything he has done is to live up to the legacy of his father and gain power. To Vergil, that would not be evil, regardless of what he had to do to acheive that. Especially considering what made Vergil want to become like Sparda. He had his mother die and his brother gone, so he's feeling guilty for that happening. Vergil's thinking that if he had been powerful enough, maybe he could have saved his mother and brother.

Like Vergil says: Might controls everything - and without strength, you cannot protect anything; let alone yourself.

The actions that the player would see as evil stem from a need to gain the strength to protect, and he'll do anything for that.

I've seen comments here saying Vergil killing points to him being evil, but Vergil does justify his killing. Arkham...he didn't like the guy anyway. Vergil was only with him because Arkham was useful. But as soon as Arkham showed weakness by not killing Lady, Vergil had no use for him. Besides, it's not like Arkham was good either. He killed his wife and tried to kill his daughter to gain demonic power.
Then there was Beowulf. The demon attacked first, plus I think killing Beowulf was a chance for Vergil to see if he was as powerful as Sparda.

The only thing I can see as 'good' would be when Vergil tells Dante to get out of the demon world before he is trapped....that's it...

I think that about sums it up lol vergil is not completely evil he is merely selfish cruel and goal driven and will achieve his goals through whatever means he chooses no more no less he will continue down his path and do whatever he has to to reach his goal on that path but thats it

 

[Chancey289]

He's so selfishly power hungry that he's willing to unleash a horde of demons that will pretty much massacre the populace and he doesn't care.

Sounds pretty bad to me. You know, I had a pretty f#cked up life and childhood myself but you don't see me trying to unleash demons to murder everyone.

 

[TerrorA]

He's so selfishly power hungry that he's willing to unleash a horde of demons that will pretty much massacre the populace and he doesn't care.

Sounds pretty bad to me. You know, I had a pretty f#cked up life and childhood myself but you don't see me trying to unleash demons to murder everyone.

(brofist)

 

[VOLPE]

he wanted sparda's power regardless of the risk or anyone else like i said hes not completely evil but he def doesnt care about anyone other then himself and possibly his family as well beyond that hell do what he wants for his goals and when you think of humans as less than cattle you can see why he spared lady in dmc3(he didnt even find her worth the time to kill her) and raising the tower(who cares about them i want my fathers power) not evil just cruel and goal driven

 

[Zey]

I find Vergil more a Chaotic Neutral than anything.

 

[VOLPE]

I find Vergil more a Chaotic Neutral than anything.

Hmm never considered that angle but doesnt a chaotic nature imply he would cause chaos in any situation vergil only concerns himself with his path and goal he doesnt really go out of his way to cause choas though he doesnt care if that is a result

 

[TerrorA]

I find Vergil more a Chaotic Neutral than anything.

'Che. More like True Selfish.

 

[Zey]

Hmm never considered that angle but doesnt a chaotic nature imply he would cause chaos in any situation vergil only concerns himself with his path and goal he doesnt really go out of his way to cause choas though he doesnt care if that is a result

He's an unpredictable individualist that wouldn't care much about the cost to achieve his selfish goals, I think he fits.

 

[VOLPE]

very true good point

 

[seraphmaycry]

I love how everyone's ignoring that Vergil did something Dante and Nero don't do. HE BEAT ON A DEAD BODY, PEOPLE!

When Dante kills a demon, he lets their body fade away and tries out his new weapon ON THE AIR OR STILL LIVING ENEMIES, NOT THEIR CORPSES!!!

wait wait wait im sorry but how is that any different? i mean dante and nero both would probably have done the same if they got to try their new weapons out on a living corpse and in DMCverse demons are evil therefore demon corpse=good and smashing demon corpse=fantastic if you have some spare time.

it's not like dante and nero are honorable warriors.

also unrelated to the quote but


The thing with calling someone good or evil is it's rather subjective i mean if dante killed nero only the people who actually think about the series would stop and consider it as "bad" simply because capcom portrays him as the hero everytime hell he could trish, lady or random people and most people would be like "whatever, it's dante"

besides it's not like dante is a saint he kills plenty i mean think about the frosts in DMC1 they where described as the royal guard of mundus in the monster library or whatever it was called so basically they are doing there job and minding their business thinking about casual demon stuff (whatever that is) and some guy in a red coat comes along and they get told it's dante and they have to kill the guy who repeatedly beat other, stronger minions of mundus i can't imagine why they would want to kill him,can you? but they do so anyway because it's their job and they have no choice they are then killed without so much as a chance to defend themselves

evil demons huh? trish is full demon and she didn't need some vodoo magic to join the "good side" that is, the side with dante on it oh and on a relevant note the exact some **** happened witht he gatekeeper bosses in dmc3 they were minding their own business some were okay with it like cerberus others were made unable to speak by the actions of a cruel dictator (agni and rudra) and some where angry as hell to smell the TRAITOR now if you are in a faction regardless of if you chose it or not you sure as hell are NOT going to like the idea of someone switching sides, destroying your team and then for the finalee giving you all a perma-ban by smashing the ground with the almighty ban-hammer.

fun fact: religion had people being burnt alive and it was considered "right" but that was in a time long ago we know live in a enlightened soceity where people shun the despicable troll AKA the little guy who wants some attention too.

 

[JessenReinhart]

what if vergil succeeded in DMC3? what will he do with all that power? eliminate every demon? conquering the world?

 

[VOLPE]

what if vergil succeeded in DMC3? what will he do with all that power? eliminate every demon? conquering the world?

He would rule over humanity as a demon lord and take his fathers power and kill mundus in the name of his father and mother and then rule the demon world as well

 

[darkslayer13]

He's an unpredictable individualist that wouldn't care much about the cost to achieve his selfish goals, I think he fits.

Vergil lacks morality but he does have honor and a focused goal. Lawful doesn't always mean following other peoples laws. Vergil would probably be classified as Lawful Evil due to the lack of a Lawful not rational enough to be moral alignment.

 

[VOLPE]

Vergil lacks morality but he does have honor and a focused goal. Lawful doesn't always mean following other peoples laws. Vergil would probably be classified as Lawful Evil due to the lack of a Lawful not rational enough to be moral alignment.

Thats the word vegil is cold and immoral

 

[VOLPE]

He doesnt care if people get hurt while he is going for his goals..he doesnt go out of his way to do so but if it happens he doesnt care all that matters to him is his quest for power if you get in his way you die if your negativily affected by it he doesnt care all that matters is what he wants...so selfish cold and immoral but also honorable and diciplined

 

[berto]

I think that calling Vergil 'evil' is a complete oversimplification of a rather complicated character; It'd be no different than saying Lady is just some slut because of her outfit.

Is he evil? Yes. Is that all? No, not even a little, and to dismiss him as that and nothing else is doing a great disservice to the character.

I love how everyone's ignoring that Vergil did something Dante and Nero don't do. HE BEAT ON A DEAD BODY, PEOPLE!

When Dante kills a demon, he lets their body fade away and tries out his new weapon ON THE AIR OR STILL LIVING ENEMIES, NOT THEIR CORPSES!!!

Seriously? That's you're gripe, that he beat a dead body? It was the body of a demon. You know what that is, don't you? Demons are malice, evil, they are that which feeds of suffering and pain, they are not nice. They are worse than murderers, worse than Nazis, worse than slave owners, worse than pedophiles, worse than people who talk during the movie. Kicking around the dead body of one of those doesn't exactly rack that high on my list of no no's.

 

[MKH Spartan]

I think that calling Vergil 'evil' is a complete oversimplification of a rather complicated character; It'd be no different than saying Lady is just some slut because of her outfit.

It's not slutty, it's practical lolz.

 

[ROCKMAN X]

I think that calling Vergil 'evil' is a complete oversimplification of a rather complicated character; It'd be no different than saying Lady is just some slut because of her outfit.

LOL WUT ?? Vergil is a very simple character mind you i like the Rebooted version much more because he has more of a character depth then the original.

Lady is only slutty in DMC 4 in DMC 3 she wasn't like that at all she had a character in DMC 3.

basically lady in DMC 4 is just there for being a sex appeal.

No, not even a little, and to dismiss him as that and nothing else is doing a great disservice to the character.

Dude.. he's a 2d character idk what's so hard to understand here !

> He unleashes Evil (Knowing that it will kill many humans)
> He Attempts to end his competition (His own brother)
> He wants to gain power at the expense of human world merging with demon world
> He is selfish and wants power but doesn't want to share it with others.

All these actions scream loud&clear that he is a in fact EVIL.

 

[VOLPE]

He may be evil to a point but hes not completely evil otherwise hed kill everyone not just those in his way