Is it really that bad?

[AlchemistFromEden]

While I do agree that every aspect of a game has to be good, stating what type of college you attend doesn't change the fact that what you said was as an opinion.

notice how dmc4 didn't win any awards and wasn't nominated for any, its not just my opinion that a small minority of the ENTIRE gaming fanbase considers its existence, take this forum for example, people like macabre(who seriously need a life if they say "i enjoy bashing this game more than i enjoy playing it") are seriously in the minority

 

[SugarMoon]

notice how dmc4 didn't win any awards and wasn't nominated for any, its not just my opinion that a small minority of the ENTIRE gaming fanbase considers its existence, take this forum for example, people like macabre(who seriously need a life if they say "i enjoy bashing this game more than i enjoy playing it") are seriously in the minority

But if I went by that mindset then I would think that DmC is the worst game in excistence considering how a majority of the fanbase hates it based on sells and the comments that I have seen.

 

[donteXdemon_killahX420]

DmC really is so worthless that the only defense its fanboys can muster is "b-b-but 4 was bad too"

While we're on the subject of awards and fanbases, who wants to talk about DmC being the worst selling DMC game of all time?

 

[Nero.]

Bugger off then dude, I've got plenty of fight left in me.
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You were better off not replying to me in the first place asswipe if you wanna continue to whine be my guest.

I noticed this forums a lot better when this game is not talked about it brings out the worst in people.

 

[Nero.]

notice how dmc4 didn't win any awards and wasn't nominated for any, its not just my opinion that a small minority of the ENTIRE gaming fanbase considers its existence, take this forum for example, people like macabre(who seriously need a life if they say "i enjoy bashing this game more than i enjoy playing it") are seriously in the minority

You're saying all this yet DmC is continuing to sell worse just saying....

 

[Mister Z]

I feel like it's threads like this what turns a would-have-been-nice-and-enjoyable-forums-where-everyone-could-share-their-thoughts-of-all-postures-and-debate-them-maturely-and-respectfully into YouTube comments section.

 

[WorkenOnMaLeft]

Why thank you chief. You enjoy DmC as much as you like. I'll go right on with my unfairly high standards.

did you like Bayonetta?

 

[AlchemistFromEden]

But if I went by that mindset then I would think that DmC is the worst game in excistence considering how a majority of the fanbase hates it based on sells and the comments that I have seen.

you're confusing the majority with the loud minority -_-

 

[Mister Z]

you're confusing the majority with the loud minority -_-

You seem to imply an awful lot that the "majority" of people in the fanbase thinks that DmC is a wonderful game and that those who disliked it are a tiny fraction in comparison. Do you have anything concise that proves this?

Besides, even if these anti-DmC individuals were indeed a minority, what drives you to think their oppinion is any less valid?
I don't know about you, but I'd take people like Macabre over many of the blindly supportive DmC fans. Even if I don't agree with most of what he says, at least he uses proper language, words his arguements properly, and most of all, backs them up. I have yet to see him personally attack anyone as well. He does his voice his own opinions strongly, but doesn't direct insults at anyone, unlike a lot of DmC supporters, whose whole arguements are often "I thought this game was great! Those haters can suck it, they're still mad that Dante doesn't have white hair!"

That's not to say there isn't any smart DmC supporters, because I have seen a lot, but my point is, any well-thought opinion, regardless of posture, is always, always more valid than the ammount of people who irrationally disagree with it.

 

[SugarMoon]

you're confusing the majority with the loud minority -_-

I'm not confusing anything. I just stated that what you said was an opinion and used DmC as an example based on what I've seen. Nothing more, nothing less.

 

[TWOxACROSS]

DmC really is so worthless that the only defense its fanboys can muster is "b-b-but 4 was bad too"

Please, there are people here who like the game who defend it, and do so without slamming the previous titles. I do it all the damn time.

And hell, what exactly constitutes "worthless" anyway...? If it's based upon "what I (general sense) wouldn't play" that's a very subjective opinion determined solely by the individual. You don't like it, that's you, but it's not some indisputable fact. Considering people have purchased the game (obviously owing to the sales) it's not worthless - people find it worth paying for, and find entertainment value in it.

Unless I magically lost money and gained a brand new game, and then had hours upon hours of fun with something that I found no redeeming qualities in...

 

[donteXdemon_killahX420]

No accounting for taste \(`~`)/

 

[TWOxACROSS]

No accounting for taste \(`~`)/

Dehhurrhurrrhurrr~ You're so much better than me for not liking something I do~ /sarcasm

Go **** yourself. Seriously (〜￣△￣)〜

 

[Loopy]

Dehhurrhurrrhurrr~ You're so much better than me for not liking something I do~ /sarcasm

Go **** yourself. Seriously (〜￣△￣)〜

Nah, that isn't necessary- just needs to lay off drinking Virility that's all. :troll:

Want stupidity then drink Virility. But I doubt Mundus would have sold much of it with that slogan. :lol:

 

[Shin Muramasa]

Ps, random question: is your image Beetlejuice? Looks kinda like him from that cartoon version.

I don't know if he answered you or anyone else did, it's not Betelgeuse. It's Freaky Fred from Courage the Cowardly Dog and he is indeed very freaky.

On-topic: I think this is really subjective. We have stubborn people on both sides along with more tolerant ones and then there are ones who are here to stir up trouble.

 

[Mister Z]

Dehhurrhurrrhurrr~ You're so much better than me for not liking something I do~ /sarcasm

Go **** yourself. Seriously (〜￣△￣)〜

No offense dude, but ever wondered why people say "don't feed the trolls" over and over again on forums? It's because it's true! Do not feed them!

 

[Loopy]

I don't know if he answered you or anyone else did, it's not Betelgeuse. It's Freaky Fred from Courage the Cowardly Dog and he is indeed very freaky.

On-topic: I think this is really subjective. We have stubborn people on both sides along with more tolerant ones and then there are ones who are here to stir up trouble.

Ahh, thanks. I was wondering who that was:lol: I'll have to check that dude out....preparing to see him in my nightmares.

Yep, it is subjective.....really subjective.^_^

 

[Macabre]

So you think DmC is a piece of profound fiction? :/

I know that Antonaides claims that it's a much deeper story than the previous DMC canon, so I critique it as such.

notice how dmc4 didn't win any awards and wasn't nominated for any, its not just my opinion that a small minority of the ENTIRE gaming fanbase considers its existence

...that's a pretty weird run-on sentence you've got going there chief, but I'll try to decode it. Nobody said that DMC4 won awards, we said that, within the same time frame, it drastically outsold DmC, and didn't divide the fanbase nearly as violently. The fact that it has more replay value, better graphics, better bosses, more creative monster design, more gameplay features and a more diverse difficulty variance than DmC is a happy bonus.

, take this forum for example, people like macabre(who seriously need a life if they say "i enjoy bashing this game more than i enjoy playing it") are seriously in the minority

AFE, people can enjoy conversation more than video games. People can enjoy badminton more than sex. People can like DMC4 more than DmC. It's a big world.

You seem to imply an awful lot that the "majority" of people in the fanbase thinks that DmC is a wonderful game and that those who disliked it are a tiny fraction in comparison. Do you have anything concise that proves this?

Besides, even if these anti-DmC individuals were indeed a minority, what drives you to think their oppinion is any less valid?
I don't know about you, but I'd take people like Macabre over many of the blindly supportive DmC fans. Even if I don't agree with most of what he says, at least he uses proper language, words his arguements properly, and most of all, backs them up. I have yet to see him personally attack anyone as well. He does his voice his own opinions strongly, but doesn't direct insults at anyone, unlike a lot of DmC supporters, whose whole arguements are often "I thought this game was great! Those haters can suck it, they're still mad that Dante doesn't have white hair!"

That's not to say there isn't any smart DmC supporters, because I have seen a lot, but my point is, any well-thought opinion, regardless of posture, is always, always more valid than the ammount of people who irrationally disagree with it.

I would like that post, but I don't want to seem any more pompous than I already obviously am.

While you can point to sales and say that they can objectively denote a game's success (If not it's quality), it's a bit of a fallacy to claim more of a fanbase agrees with you than not. Even if you opened a poll thread an idiot on either side could stuff the ballot box. I think we'd all be better off if we avoided using broad generalizations on just how many people agree with us. Hell, if you're right it makes it more likely that people won't agree with you in my experience.

did you like Bayonetta?

I did enjoy it, but it had some pretty clear flaws much like the rest of Platinum's work. I liked the over-the-top aesthetic and the silly humor, and the gender/sexuality inversion stuff was really great. Still I felt that the environments lacked diverse interactive elements and the deliberate plot-constipation was a bit exasperating at times. It seems like a concept that could do with some refining, so I'm looking forward to 2 despite the fact that I have little intention of getting a Wii U.

My favourite Platinum game is probably Mad World, for every reason other than gameplay. Wrap your head around that.

Or rather just listen to that godly sound track.

 

[WorkenOnMaLeft]

snip.

ugh i really tried to like that game.believe me i did. but i coud not take the voice acting and the script. jesus i thought everything was horrible even for that style. it felt like a bad parody of over the top aesthetics. even the gameplay was vastly over hyped in my opinion, every weapon had essentially the same moveset as far as i remember. btw i was gonna say that if you enjoyed that game then your standards arent very high after all but since you dont seem to be worshipping it simply because Kamiya made it il stop myself.

 

[Macabre]

ugh i really tried to like that game.believe me i did. but i coud not take the voice acting and the script. jesus i thought everything was horrible even for that style. it felt like a bad parody of over the top aesthetics. even the gameplay was vastly over hyped in my opinion, every weapon had essentially the same moveset as far as i remember. btw i was gonna say that if you enjoyed that game then your standards arent very high after all but since you dont seem to be worshipping it simply because Kamiya made it il stop myself.

Which one, Bayonetta or Madworld?

Hell they both have problems, but I like 'em.