Cabbage Detective
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can i have this? :3
DmC's Story is Terrible and here is why?
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AlchemistFromEden
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Demi-fiend
Metempsychosis
Cabbage Detective
Cabbages <3
lol thanks and that gif reminds me of batman arkham asylum :3
Go ahead. I got it from google, anyway. XD
Demi-fiend
Metempsychosis
Lionheart
Solid Ocelot
The only problem is that it's not satire in DmC. It actually takes it very seriously. Do you even know what the word satire means? It's to make fun of those sterotypical ideas/plots and what have you. DmC does not make fun of it, it actually makes people drink Virility, and Dante is their savior smacking the can out of their hands. The whole friggin theme of the game is that Mundus (who is an influential banker/loanshark) is ruling over the demons and the humans. Virility is a demonic thing (evil). This is not a satire, it's taken seriously, which is something satire never does. Just like The Matrix isn't satire, as it doesn't make fun of the idea that the world is not what it seems. It actually takes it seriously.
You really have a lot to learn, sorry to say.
And if you're still going on about Vergil having no motivation for doing what he did in DMC3, go play the ****ing DMC games and pay attention! Also, buy an imagination while you're at it.
''which is why actually writing critics are enjoying it''
I don't even know what you're saying there, as that doesn't seem to be a grammatically correct sentence. Writing critics? What? Yes, critics usually write stuff. That's what they do. I don't even...
I was talking about DMC's overall plot, not some of the elements present in it. Stop bringing up InuYasha. Sure, it's similar to InuYasha. So the F what? Who said that wasn't inspired by western stories either?
Yes, I was complaining about DmC's plot not being original. Nor is DMC's, but at least it has a plot that's not braindead. A plot that doesn't sound like it was made up by someone who lacks knowledge of the world, or some sort of pot-smoking hippie.
Maybe it would be more interesting to have you or Dante believe that people are being brainwashed
''no that wouldn't make any sense but there is a fanfiction section here if your desperate''
Why wouldn't that make sense? Don't you have an imagination? You know what, I'm not going to spell out for you how it would work, as that would just be lost on you. Kind of sad. If this is how it goes within game developing companies, it's not surprising DMC and DmC ended up with a mediocre plot. Nobody's even willing to listen to interesting ideas. I wonder if developers tell their employees to go to a fanfic thread too
Like Supernatural has parodied: ''I'm too old for this sh**!''
Lionheart
Solid Ocelot
The majority finding something creepy does not make it so. And yes, Bayonetta was an absurd character. Again, that was the point. Tameem's opinion isn't fact either. I really don't care how many people feel this and that, it's not a matter of democracy or something. These are opinions, and having a minority opinion does not make you wrong.
Cabbage Detective
Cabbages <3
Dr.house dafuq you doing here? XD'Cause elitists gonna elite... :ermm:
Lionheart
Solid Ocelot
Sadly, that seems to be the idea. And no doubt I'm in the wrong for some reason (because I have a different opinion), and the thread's going to get locked over it. Thanks, guys. I think I'll just go to a more civilized thread that allows each side to voice their opinion by not butting in and closing threads before they even started.
SPARTAN-999
! FIGHT LIKE A MAN SCUM !
When i play DMC gameplay comes first
Story is second
and to be honest i loved the combat in DmC as much as DMC 3 its gameplay DmC is got air combos like we have never seen before in a dmc game so i admire it for that but
i didnt like the cutscenes DMC 3 cutscenes WIN easily
and also the ending was a cliff hanger
and why the F*ck cant we taunt in this game ?
Story is second
and to be honest i loved the combat in DmC as much as DMC 3 its gameplay DmC is got air combos like we have never seen before in a dmc game so i admire it for that but
i didnt like the cutscenes DMC 3 cutscenes WIN easily
and also the ending was a cliff hanger
and why the F*ck cant we taunt in this game ?
Cabbage Detective
Cabbages <3
yeah I was rather dissapointed that there was no taunts in the game :c
SPARTAN-999
! FIGHT LIKE A MAN SCUM !
ofcourse ninja theory would give you the not in a million years joke after all the crap they took and the trash talk from the fans do expect them to say oh thank you for insulting us while we make a game for you but i think its imature
AlchemistFromEden
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AlchemistFromEden
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its not immature to playfully make a nod to a classic character's old design, it is however very immature to blow it out of proportion and make entire threads about it cursing their existence which has happened multiple times already -__-
TWOxACROSS
Hot-blooded God of Guns
The only problem is that it's not satire in DmC. It actually takes it very seriously. Do you even know what the word satire means? It's to make fun of those sterotypical ideas/plots and what have you. DmC does not make fun of it, it actually makes people drink Virility, and Dante is their savior smacking the can out of their hands. The whole friggin theme of the game is that Mundus (who is an influential banker/loanshark) is ruling over the demons and the humans. Virility is a demonic thing (evil). This is not a satire, it's taken seriously, which is something satire never does. Just like The Matrix isn't satire, as it doesn't make fun of the idea that the world is not what it seems. It actually takes it seriously.
You really have a lot to learn, sorry to say.
And if you're still going on about Vergil having no motivation for doing what he did in DMC3, go play the ******* DMC games and pay attention! Also, buy an imagination while you're at it.
''which is why actually writing critics are enjoying it''
I don't even know what you're saying there, as that doesn't seem to be a grammatically correct sentence. Writing critics? What? Yes, critics usually write stuff. That's what they do. I don't even...
I was talking about DMC's overall plot, not some of the elements present in it. Stop bringing up InuYasha. Sure, it's similar to InuYasha. So the F what? Who said that wasn't inspired by western stories either?
Yes, I was complaining about DmC's plot not being original. Nor is DMC's, but at least it has a plot that's not braindead. A plot that doesn't sound like it was made up by someone who lacks knowledge of the world, or some sort of pot-smoking hippie.
Maybe it would be more interesting to have you or Dante believe that people are being brainwashed
''no that wouldn't make any sense but there is a fanfiction section here if your desperate''
Why wouldn't that make sense? Don't you have an imagination? You know what, I'm not going to spell out for you how it would work, as that would just be lost on you. Kind of sad. If this is how it goes within game developing companies, it's not surprising DMC and DmC ended up with a mediocre plot. Nobody's even willing to listen to interesting ideas. I wonder if developers tell their employees to go to a fanfic thread too
Like Supernatural has parodied: ''I'm too old for this sh**!''
Uhm...Lionheart...It takes itself seriously only in the story it's telling, not explicitly in the themes it deals with. And by "taking itself seriously only in the story it's telling" I mean that it doesn't ruin the narrative at the expense of a random joke, or trying to make Dante cool by surfing on a missile or something. The jokes the narrative has are grounded in that narrative, and not simply things done specifically for humor's sake. They're contextual (and sometimes subtle), like the ingredients in Kat's spraypaint, or the brotherly ****ing contest near the end.
It only takes itself seriously because it tries to keep up a consistent narrative with a clear goal and tone, like any story should. However, satire is there in spades in what Dante and The Order are combating.
And if you really wanna get into what "satire" actually means, good ol' google does wonders.
google search "satire definition said:
Definition 1 says "the use of...irony, exaggeration...to expose and criticize...stupidity or vices, particularly in the context of contemporary politics and other topical issues."
DmC's ironic exaggerations of demons being responsible for society's ills like conspiracies of stuff in our food, nationalist propaganda on the airwaves, and interests in fleeting, sometimes self-destructive vices like sex, drugs, and booze, sure sounds a helluva lot like satire.
Hell, you yourself wrote pretty much the same definition, but then took it in some weird direction to prove your incorrect point.
Again...DmC is a satire of societal ills, Alex Jones has even been quoted as saying that "DmC pokes fun at societal ills." "Pokes fun," as in "makes fun of," as in "with a somewhat humorous context." It's a friggin' video game, and it was never NT's intention to try and triumph awareness or change in society with DmC. All they did was create a video game bad guy out of conspiracies and sociopolitical issues by giving them a fantastical and satirical bent.
In the end, it's all inspiration for something - in this case, the inspiration for a demonic overlord who rules with an iron fist is inspired by society's apathy, greed, and nutjob conspiracies, which inadvertently makes it somewhat relatable to others while making it believable that the evil things that happen in the world are the cause of a malevolent presence.
I know I thought it was interesting; I hate Bill O'Reily and the crap FOX News spews, I watched my house be taken away by a greedy bank (they didn't give my parents any time to save the house), and I hate a lot of the vapid fads that people so easily waste their lives on. DmC's story was okay with me because it made fun of things that I make fun of, while also being an interesting take on a franchise I know.
Though I find you overly defensive of DmC at times, throwing hate at haters in many a post... This is actually a reasonable response.
AlchemistFromEden
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TWOxACROSS
Hot-blooded God of Guns
F*cking. Exactly.
Lionheart
Solid Ocelot
Most of what you wrote does not even apply to what I was saying.
''Uhm...Lionheart...It takes itself seriously only in the story it's telling,''
Yes, and the themes tie into that.
All I was saying is that DmC takes that stuff very seriously, and doesn't actually make a satire out of it. Bayonetta and DMC are satires. Doing a Shakespearean play very badly (like in DMC4) is satire. Bayonetta being the typical sexbomb woman, even going as far as to have lollipops around constantly, THAT's satire. I don't feel like explaining DmC is not satire again.
I realize how it works.
''DmC's ironic exaggerations of demons being responsible for society's ills like conspiracies of stuff in our food, nationalist propaganda on the airwaves, and interests in fleeting, sometimes self-destructive vices like sex, drugs, and booze, sure soundsa helluva lot like satire.''
Only it isn't. If it were, it would poke fun at it (usually debunking it), and I don't mean in a few cases like when Dante and Vergil don't listen to Mundus and all. In fact, that's exactly what makes it NOT a parody/satire. That they actually take it so seriously that they don't listen to Mundus when he spews all kinds of stuff. In actuality, the entire game is based around that idea, and the world (Limbo) actually IS brainwashed (kind of). If it were satire, it would turn out that's not the case.
I'm out of here, sorry.
''Uhm...Lionheart...It takes itself seriously only in the story it's telling,''
Yes, and the themes tie into that.
All I was saying is that DmC takes that stuff very seriously, and doesn't actually make a satire out of it. Bayonetta and DMC are satires. Doing a Shakespearean play very badly (like in DMC4) is satire. Bayonetta being the typical sexbomb woman, even going as far as to have lollipops around constantly, THAT's satire. I don't feel like explaining DmC is not satire again.
I realize how it works.
''DmC's ironic exaggerations of demons being responsible for society's ills like conspiracies of stuff in our food, nationalist propaganda on the airwaves, and interests in fleeting, sometimes self-destructive vices like sex, drugs, and booze, sure soundsa helluva lot like satire.''
Only it isn't. If it were, it would poke fun at it (usually debunking it), and I don't mean in a few cases like when Dante and Vergil don't listen to Mundus and all. In fact, that's exactly what makes it NOT a parody/satire. That they actually take it so seriously that they don't listen to Mundus when he spews all kinds of stuff. In actuality, the entire game is based around that idea, and the world (Limbo) actually IS brainwashed (kind of). If it were satire, it would turn out that's not the case.
I'm out of here, sorry.
SPARTAN-999
! FIGHT LIKE A MAN SCUM !
Come on if you are a game director why dont u be professional instead of bumping heads with forum teenagers
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