DmC Theories

[Dante's Stalker]

The newest idea for a theory I'm playing with is with Vergil as the protagonist with no sign of Dante whatsoever, but plenty of mention/reference to Dante. Vergil suffering from memory loss and naturally the only thing he can truly remember is a name (Dante) which leads him to believe that the memories coming back to him (which he thinks he's recalling from a third/detached view) is of himself and that HE is Dante. Because he doesn't realize the memories returning are his memories of a separate individual who looks exactly like him, eg. no recognition of Dante at all. This is the theory I'm running with since Capcom said the game is AU, and the scenario would suit for AU.
And fans have been demanding more Vergil for years now, and backstory - everyone wants to know 'what happened before?' And if Capcom feel that Dante needs to take a backseat for a while, the second best character to take position as the protagonist is, as fans have stated before in the Nero vs Dante debates, no other than Vergil.

 

[The crazy demon]

The newest idea for a theory I'm playing with is with Vergil as the protagonist with no sign of Dante whatsoever, but plenty of mention/reference to Dante. Vergil suffering from memory loss and naturally the only thing he can truly remember is a name (Dante) which leads him to believe that the memories coming back to him (which he thinks he's recalling from a third/detached view) is of himself and that HE is Dante. Because he doesn't realize the memories returning are his memories of a separate individual who looks exactly like him, eg. no recognition of Dante at all. This is the theory I'm running with since Capcom said the game is AU, and the scenario would suit for AU.
And fans have been demanding more Vergil for years now, and backstory - everyone wants to know 'what happened before?' And if Capcom feel that Dante needs to take a backseat for a while, the second best character to take position as the protagonist is, as fans have stated before in the Nero vs Dante debates, no other than Vergil.

That theory can make sense

And i like it

 

[moseslmpg]

The theory doesn't work for a reboot though. There is no Vergil in the reboot as far as we know.

But with the amnesia theory in general, if Vergil can remember Dante's name, why wouldn't he remember his own name or at least know he isn't Dante? That has never made sense to me.

 

[Dante's Stalker]

There is no Vergil in the reboot as far as we know.

And just how much do we know?
Theories are theories, I'm not going to delve into it to explain my theory other than the voice at the end that says he's Dante sounds very much like Dan Southworth to me. We don't know ANYTHING about this game, seeing as it's AU anything goes until the game is released and debunks all the theories we've come up with.
That and I'm betting that photo taken of Reuben and Dan working together in mocap gear not too long ago was for this game.

 

[Vampi]

Uh, you can ask Moses, but he knows i'm Dan Southworth's biggest fan (at least i think i am). And i can tell you for one thing...that is NOT Dan's voice. Dan's voice sounds more nasally. This one sounds more deep and raspy like a smokers voice. Dan sounds nothing like that, since as far as i know he only drinks and he doesn't smoke.

Dan and Reuben have worked together on other video games as well. Dan and Reuben mo-capped for James Cameron's Avatar and also Resident Evil 5.

Also Reuben said on his Facebook page he has no involvement with the new DMC. I think he knew about the new DMC but just couldn't divulge it since Capcom is one of his employers. But he's not doing the voice that's for sure. He's said that he hopes in the future that he could once again voice Dante.

 

[Dante's Stalker]

^D: I cannot believe you just yanked the last thread of sanity I was hanging onto away from me! D: LOL, j/k
Well like I said, the voice sounds like Dan TO ME. It's got a drawl in it that makes it sound nasally to me, even if it is a gruffer version of it. Reuben doesn't quite sound like Reuben when he did Leon from RE either, and he didn't sound quite the same for Dante in DMC4 as he did for Dante in DMC3. The same could apply to Dan, since Capcom have a very clear and specific image they want to bring across, they might have told him that they want a more rugged Vergil, and because his character smokes he should sound like it too? Anyway, I think it's Dan's voice, and you're allowed to disagree with me but I'm not being swayed from what I think.

And it's a pity about Reuben. I would have loved to know he did at least the mocap for one or the other character. He's got a way about him, you know? :wub: Okay, am I digressing from the topic at hand here?

I think I am. Sorry!

 

[Vampi]

Uh...Reuben never voiced Leon...

I don't think its Dan's voice. Actually in sum way i know its not Dan since Dan is busy doing a webseries now called Divergence. He would've said sumthing about returning as Vergil if he was in the new game. But i doubt it.

I think Ninja Theory is only using their actors to be in the game. I know Andy Serkis is the first voice you hear in the trailer. That's a given since he's worked on pretty much every single Ninja Theory game.

 

[Dante's Stalker]

^ >.< Epic fail. I meant Chris.

 

[Vampi]

Reuben didn't voice Chris. He only mo-capped for him.

 

[moseslmpg]

And just how much do we know?
Theories are theories, I'm not going to delve into it to explain my theory other than the voice at the end that says he's Dante sounds very much like Dan Southworth to me. We don't know ANYTHING about this game, seeing as it's AU anything goes until the game is released and debunks all the theories we've come up with.
That and I'm betting that photo taken of Reuben and Dan working together in mocap gear not too long ago was for this game.

Yeah, my point is we don't know anything about this game, meaning Vergil might not be in it at all. And since it is a reboot, they would be most likely going with Dante for the protagonist since not many people know Vergil, especially not casual gamers.

If this was some kind of sequel or prequel, it might make sense, but it doesn't make sense to use a relatively unknown character for a reboot because it kind of defeats the purpose of a reboot. We just have to accept the fact that this guy is the new Dante and go from there.

BTW, the reason I don't think we have heard anything from Reuben and Dan is because they are working on DMC5...I hope.

 

[icmasticc]

Wow, I just thought up a crazy theory.

So this is apparently a re-imagining/reboot that's supposed to have a western flavor and that's where this theory came from. Here it is.

The voice that asks "What is your name" is Sparda. In the original series Sparda was originally part of hell's army and turned against them. In this new universe, Sparda is apart of the Limbo City Police Department. I think this world still supports the fact that humans and demons co-exist so Sparda is still a demon. The "Dante" in this game is still Sparda's son but showing very early signs of demonic ability. His father decides to force this demonic power to awaken by torturing him and putting him through pyscho-evaluation tests. This would explain why in the trailer, Dante has headaches while remembering the past because of the torture/experiments.

In the description Capcom gave, they said Dante was spurred on by a trusted relation and wants revenge at any cost. The revenge is not against Vergil, but against his father, Sparda, who forced his demonic power to awaken by putting him through experiments and torture. Vergil is probably the trusted relation who brought this to light and Dante is just now beginning to remember.

So now, Dante is out for revenge against Sparda and that is the premise of the game.

Of course this all theory but it just came to me so I decided to post it. What do you guys think? I know it's not complete but, meh lol.

EDIT-I forgot to say something too. This would also explain the reason Dante now hunts demons. He hates demons because his father tortured him when he was younger and he sees demons in the same light as him.

 

[moseslmpg]

You're right...that is crazy.

The description of the game seems to imply that the trusted relation is not the person Dino wants revenge against, so even if that were the case, the relation would have to be someone other than Sparda.

 

[Kalewi]

Theory: Long after Dante and Nero, demons are back but there ain't any devil hunters. Goverment knows about Dante and they begin experimenting. They use some random "bad" people in their tests. They infuse people with Dantes DNA, gathered from Rebellion and Ebony & Ivory. Finally they success with subject number 64432B. Subject starts to chance in look and personality. His hair starts growing white, his eyes changes color to red and he becomes sarcastic. He calls himself Dante. He also starts gaining supernatural abilities. He has some a very bad identity crisis. Goverment uses him as their weapon against demons. But they realise that Dante ain't so easy to control and Dante wants revenge on goverment. And so might the game begin...

Replace word "goverment" with word you want. Sparda, Mundus or anything you think possible.

 

[Meg]

^ How does DNA make you sarcastic? Take that out, but other than that neat theory.

 

[Richtofen]

Based on an interview on another thread here...this IS a reboot and this IS Dante. It's not a clone or someone pretending to be him. He's younger, and I'm looking forward to what this new reality will be like. And as far as we know, it is a stand alone so ANYTHING is possible. I favour that idea a lot.

Also, I doubt Ninja Theory would throw away all the details about Dante's life...they can change it but they wouldn't discard it. It's still in a designing stage, so lots of details will be changed from now till it will be released.

My theory though on the whole thing...Dante is being remote controlled by this 'government'. They captured him, brainwashed him for their bidding. The rehibilitaion program could really be something akin to...putting him in his place. Since his demonic powers start to awaken, the 'chip' implanted withing his head is starting to wear and Dante is regaining his memory back piece by peice. So when they ask his name..."My name is Dante" hell ensues shortly after.

I could be entirely wrong but this sounds like a cool idea =)

 

[moseslmpg]

Is anyone else concerned by the fact that Dino's world doesn't actually seem to be in peril? It seems like the game will amount to little more than a revenge quest for him, which doesn't seem very noble or heroic.

And apparently, now Capcom is saying that this is our Dante, but younger. So it is a reboot and a prequel at the same time, which is impossible.

 

[Vampi]

Is anyone else concerned by the fact that Dino's world doesn't actually seem to be in peril? It seems like the game will amount to little more than a revenge quest for him, which doesn't seem very noble or heroic.

And apparently, now Capcom is saying that this is our Dante, but younger. So it is a reboot and a prequel at the same time, which is impossible.

LOL even this Dante's motivation seems shallow now as Dante's reason for being in DMC 4. It's such a waste of a character.

Why does this new reboot/prequel/whatever the hell always has to focus on Dante?

Vergil would've been a better fit for this darker grittier DMC. But no, they had to ruin Dante.

This Dante is in a way fanservice but at the same time not.

 

[Richtofen]

As I said earlier...This could be a stand alone game that could refresh the series again. So really...anything is possible at this point until there is more info to debunk our theories.

So don't bash a game that isn't even going to be out for a couple years. You've seen trailers that are still in a rough shape, the game is still being developed. Which is why I dislike people who think they know everything about the game from a trailer and a few pics. YOU don't know how the story begins OR ends. YOU don't know the gameplay. What right do you have to judge it? You don't UNTIL you've played it through and through, only THEN can you really say what you want. I'm not excluding myself from this either, I don't know the gameplay or story. I've accepted this fact already and moved on instead of being judgemental over every little fact. There is so much potential for this game, and it's still in early designing.

I can understand why people are afraid if the game is a total dud but that's a risk everyone is taking right now, mainly the company. My only wishes are to wish them the best and I hope they are able to pull off a spectacular reboot of DMC.

 

[moseslmpg]

I was just voicing my apprehension about this character's motivation, which are valid as any, given this is the theory thread.

I don't buy the whole "this is a rough draft" idea though. They have had a year and a half, which is probably much longer than past teasers have had, so they obviously have some story in mind. The environments of the trailer were too specific for them not to.

Anyway, fine if Dino is fighting the government or whatever, but if the trailer is right, nothing much seems to be wrong with the city except all the graffiti, which apparently Dino contributes to. hopefully this won't turn out to be a secular affair, and we will get to go to Hell. I'm guessing the Angel Wing towers are somehow connected to Hell or something.

So far it just seems as if Dino has escaped some facility, and the government is trying to recapture him. The mannequins seem like recon and recording units more than demons.

 

[Kalewi]

^ How does DNA make you sarcastic? Take that out, but other than that neat theory.

I just tried to say that the subject slowly transform to Dante. So he starts transforming mentally too and thats why he becomes sarcastic( which is big part of Dantes personality). Because his mental change he remembers things that he should't and that is why he has those headaches.

Sorry if I say strange things here but thats because I'm from Finland and from place where all the strange people come from :lol: and that place is called "Savo".