My point with talking about Kat isn't to tell you about her being physically weak. It is to say that all humans in DmC or DMC are weak, hence they dont have capability to face a demonic threat. So if a demon like Dante went into DmC universe, he would be more than capable and the "Only we can kill demon king" is invalid, because anyone with enough power can kill Mundus.
Then why not Phinias, Sparda himself, or Eva? Why not all the angels gather to defeat him? Because he was in Limbo, and normal Angels can't cross into Limbo. Only Nephilim can, thus the only being that can kill demon kings.
Yes, because the hellgate makes him immortal. But once that hellgate is off, he could probably be killed. There is nothing by NTVergil or NTDante that is unique to killing NTMundus. The only big reason why they could kill him is because they had more power than humans, not because Mundus is weak to Nephilim powers.
Not only that, but because they could cross worlds in order to GET to Mundus. That's a Nephilim trait.
So you saying a human can't kill Mundus if they are lucky with circumstances (hellgate is destroyed), and they bomb him alot.
When would Mundus ever let his hellgate be drestroyed unless he was really ****ed? It would probably take more then just a bunch of humans he rules over to get him away from his hellgate. Plus Vergil didnt destroy it, he sealed it.
Thats you speculating. Nothing in DmC states Mundus is weak to Nephilim attacks. Its just that NTDante and NTVergl are nephilims which have more power than a human.
Thus, "The only beings that can slay a demon king" along with "Crossing into other worlds".
I'm afraid your wrong
NTDante knocked out cold, NTVergil stabs MCMundus
Dont attack him, wait until i expose his eyes
Core fight
I think Dante was smart enough to be able to know where the core is. Obviously he just could use his grapple to expose his eyes, and he could recover from that considering he's taken worse.
If by "he" you mean McMundus - He was busy getting back stabbed by NTVergil
If by "he" you mean NTDante - are you implying his plan was to "get rped by MCMundus until i know the gate is destroyed" ?
If so thats stupid plan.
He was fighting back, but he got destroyed.
Okay, I give you that.
Actually NTVergil said "We are nephilim, the only one who can slay the demon king", so NTVergil could defat MCMundus too.
The only ONES who can slay a demon king. I knew that one already.
It's possibly, noone is disputing that. But there seems to be a difference in power between DMC Mundus and DmC Mundus.
Yes. New Mundus is more down to Earth with his power since it got sealed, while Old Mundus was sealed in a marbel statue with most of his powers sealed as well.
Really? You think i am argumenting with nostalgia? It's not that noone isn't understanding the possibility, because i assure you everyone does, its that people dont believe NTDante would defeat DMC3Vergil.
Which I call crap since both Dantes are equal in their power, which means if DMC3 Dante could do it, DmC Dante could too, yet it's not clicking to anyone here.
That's not what a comparison of NTDante and DMC3Dante's regeneration before DT implies. Before DT, NTDante had pretty weak regeneration.
After DT his regeneration increased.
Either way both can regenerate so they're at least equal in the sense that they can.
Before DT
After DT
DMC3 Dante's regen was high.
I blame that on the grounds that its suppose to be an action game and logic is usually lost in it.
And since DMC3Vergil is Dante's brother, it's only logical to assume he has same regeneration as him. Plus if you look at when Dante slashes Vergil, he continues on standing. And he then goes on to fight. So his regeneration is around same level if not higher than Dantes.
NTDantes regen on other hand was signficiantly weak in beginning, even after he rested for around 2 hours it did not recover shallow scratch wounds.
That's because it was his own brother who slashed him in DmC. In DMC3 it was the same thing; vergil was slashed and he was gripping his chest in pain while stumbling to reach the edge of the cliff before his big leap of faith. And when did NT Dante rest for 2 hours anywhere?
Demon kings that die.
Old Dante wasn't a Nephilim so obviously old Mundus didn't die.
My opinion vs yours, id say DMC3 Vergils speed is faster.
Then your opinion doesn't hold much substance since reflexes can over come speed.
He was created to be able to beat a NTVergil, not a DMCVergil. Anyway evidence supports that original Dante has much more regeneration than NTDante.
So just because he heals faster, they're different? That's really flawed logic considering just because of regeneration. Both dante's were created to have the same power level at their ages, and obviously both can hadle each other's Vergils as such.
Is this what you call holding back?
Yes. He should have killed him while he was prattling on about "No one can have this Dante, it's mine."
"Not anymore"
"BLAM"
Shot dead.
It doesnt matter whether its in anime or not. The story of a weaker protaganist who goes on to defeat a stronger antagonist is happening all the time.
But because it's with new Dante and old Vergil, it doesn't count? Nostalgia creeping up I see.
It doesnt necessarily mean that the antagonist is weaker than the protaganist. Especially in DMC's case where its talk about two twins who both are bloody strong.
I never said Dante was weak. I said if Old Dante can do it, New Dante can too.
In beginning the protaganist is weaker than the antagonist. Even though the protaganist (Dante) has the will and a better cause to fight for, he still looses.
But then at end of story the protaganist has matched the power level that made a difference in beginning between himself and the antagonist. And that extra that makes him win is the cause.
Vergil fought for obtaining power for a bad reason it seems.
Dante wanted to stop Vergil from doing something bad in context to demons.7
Why are you explaining all this to me? I know this.
EDIT:
I don't get why you think because Dante defeated Vergil, that means NTDante would do the same thing.
Obviously.
1. Vergil defeated Dante in beginning
So? He won by the end, and new Dante's still got his DT to use.
2. Someone losing to someone else whos around your
level, doesnt mean your weaker. It just means something happened that caused you to lose. In DMC3's case Dante had a reason that made him withstand more.
Once again, you don't seem to grasp that both Dantes were made to be the same power scale at that time. But new Dante would have a better chance at that time because he would be taking it more of a serious threat.
and 3.
...Gilver fights Dante, proving himself equal. Deciding to settle the fight with drinking
