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Dante and Raiden... DmC and MGR... Why choose?

Frazz said:
The narrative to me seems like a typical American blockbuster (I know plat are Japanese company) with the normal military gargle but the boss confrontation is well written! DmC's narrative has been kept under wraps so you wouldn't know much about it.
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I know I haven't seen much of DmC's narrative side. But initial impressions are what counts when viewing trailers.
If you don't like what the trailers/gameplay has to offer, then most likely you're going to steer clear from the game itself.

But again, that's just my opinion. At this point, I just prefer MGR over DmC because it's more appealing to me.

Frazz said:
I would think a lot of the MGR fans are DmC rejecters as it is almost nothing like MGS so why would the average stealth gamer like it?
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Well, for one thing, it isn't MGS. (Which has been established already). So of course it's different, just like a lot of people say that DmC is different than DMC. It's not the same.

But that doesn't automatically mean that most fans of the series wouldn't like MGR. And it definitely doesn't mean that most of the anti DmC side gravitated towards getting MGR just because they don't like DmC. I can see some of the antis doing this, but not most of them.

And who knows, seeing how this is a new take on Metal Gear, it could appeal to new fans as well. Which it did with me.
But I'm not liking MGR just because I don't like DmC. I'm liking it solely because I want to.
 
ChaserTech said:
I know I haven't seen much of DmC's narrative side. But initial impressions are what counts when viewing trailers.
If you don't like what the trailers/gameplay has to offer, then most likely you're going to steer clear from the game itself.

But again, that's just my opinion. At this point, I just prefer MGR over DmC because it's more appealing to me.



Well, for one thing, it isn't MGS. (Which has been established already). So of course it's different, just like a lot of people say that DmC is different than DMC. It's not the same.

But that doesn't automatically mean that most fans of the series wouldn't like MGR. And it definitely doesn't mean that most of the anti DmC side gravitated towards getting MGR just because they don't like DmC. I can see some of the antis doing this, but not most of them.

And who knows, seeing how this is a new take on Metal Gear, it could appeal to new fans as well. Which it did with me.
But I'm not liking MGR just because I don't like DmC. I'm liking it solely because I want to.
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I can respect that and btw I am glad you are being civil and capable of intelligent conversation! The thing is though DmC retains a lot of elements from the previous series whereas MGR holds no real gameplay similarities to MGS - it has its nods to it but it is still very different.
 
Also all I see on youtube and sometimes on these very forums is people saying that MGR is what they will get instead of DmC so the amount of them I have seen on DmC vids and other forums (there are like thousands of these posts) makes it apparent that anti-DmC people all want MGR just to get a DMC5 which is ridiculous!
 
Frazz said:
I can respect that and btw I am glad you are being civil and capable of intelligent conversation! The thing is though DmC retains a lot of elements from the previous series whereas MGR holds no real gameplay similarities to MGS - it has its nods to it but it is still very different.
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True, but it still doesn't mean that the fans of MGS won't automatically like MGR regardless.

Frazz said:
Also all I see on youtube and sometimes on these very forums is people saying that MGR is what they will get instead of DmC so the amount of them I have seen on DmC vids and other forums (there are like thousands of these posts) makes it apparent that anti-DmC people all want MGR just to get a DMC5 which is ridiculous!
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Now you're making it seem that all anti's want MGR instead of most, which is what you said earlier.
And I still don't think it's fair for you to generalize the MGR fanbase like that when it's clearly more than just some of the anti DmC fans supporting MGR. From what I've seen, it's people who appreciated Raiden as a character and they want to see how this game would do since they also want to play as him. This is coming from reading YouTube comments that I've seen on extremely popular trailers as well. And in fact, I've seen people talk trash about this game simply because it reminded them of Devil May Cry. And the people who don't like it are the people who are extremely ignorant (more so than the anti side of DmC). I have seen some DmC comments sprinkled here and there, but it's not a majority of people becoming interested in this game their disgust of DmC.

EDIT: I've also read comments that people generally like the game for what it is.

Coming from a neutral side (I used to be completely anti) I looked at DmC and thought that it would suck. I gave it a chance, was slightly impressed by the visual aspects and that was it. Wasn't impressed by the gameplay, character designs, nor what I've seen in terms of story.

Then I looked at MGR and I checked out some gameplay footage and I found it to be fairly decent, more appealing to me than DmC. Combat seemed smooth and fluid as opposed to rough, stagnant, and unrefined. It even reminded me of Ninja Gaiden combat. (which I'm also a small fan of)
Heck I even like Darksiders II combat system more so than DmC's since it has a lot going for it.



Point being, you shouldn't generalize the MGR fanbase so quickly when I'm sure they are different than what you think it is.
 
Frazz said:
Also all I see on youtube and sometimes on these very forums is people saying that MGR is what they will get instead of DmC so the amount of them I have seen on DmC vids and other forums (there are like thousands of these posts) makes it apparent that anti-DmC people all want MGR just to get a DMC5 which is ridiculous!
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So buying the competitors game will result in Capcom making DMC5? Who the actual **** thought that would work?
 
Frazz said:
The narrative to me seems like a typical American blockbuster (I know plat are Japanese company) with the normal military gargle but the boss confrontation is well written! DmC's narrative has been kept under wraps so you wouldn't know much about it.

I would think a lot of the MGR fans are DmC rejecters as it is almost nothing like MGS so why would the average stealth gamer like it?
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I really don't like what Rising is doing and it's because I'm a massive Metal Gear fan. I want my stealth focused gameplay. It's funny if you look on the DMC facebook page they are giving Rising more attention than the Metal Gear fans are. I look at MGS stuff and I see them really all talking about Ground Zeroes and The Phantom Pain. Look at the DMC page and you see childish crying butthurt raging fanboys who still can't get over the reboot and they try to throw Rising stuff on it to act like it's the better game. They aren't Metal Gear fans so I know it's just their stupid bias hatred. I pretend Rising doesn't exist.

They're acting like P* games are the best company ever and I laughed when someone said Bayonetta was a "sophisticated masterpiece". That game was borderline pornography half the time and everything Bayonetta was was fetishistic. Funny how it tried to act like it was ironic because guess what P*, just because you're trying to be ironically fetish like, it doesn't mean someone isn't going to jerk off to it. The Rising fans really are just butthurt fanboys upset over the reboot and are only hopping towards Rising some of them truly think it will send them some kind of message. They're all being a bunch of babies if you ask me. Rising looks like the mediocre game compared to DmC. Screw Raiden and Rising. I'll take my Ground Zeroes instead.
 
Chancey289 said:
I really don't like what Rising is doing and it's because I'm a massive Metal Gear fan. I want my stealth focused gameplay. It's funny if you look on the DMC facebook page they are giving Rising more attention than the Metal Gear fans are. I look at MGS stuff and I see them really all talking about Ground Zeroes and The Phantom Pain. Look at the DMC page and you see childish crying butthurt raging fanboys who still can't get over the reboot and they try to throw Rising stuff on it to act like it's the better game. They aren't Metal Gear fans so I know it's just their stupid bias hatred. I pretend Rising doesn't exist.

They're acting like P* games are the best company ever and I laughed when someone said Bayonetta was a "sophisticated masterpiece". That game was borderline pornography half the time and everything Bayonetta was was fetishistic. Funny how it tried to act like it was ironic because guess what P*, just because you're trying to be ironically fetish like, it doesn't mean someone isn't going to jerk off to it. The Rising fans really are just butthurt fanboys upset over the reboot and are only hopping towards Rising some of them truly think it will send them some kind of message. They're all being a bunch of babies if you ask me. Rising looks like the mediocre game compared to DmC. Screw Raiden and Rising. I'll take my Ground Zeroes instead.
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I like to think of Bayonetta as Kamiya's wet dreams in video game form, not as a serious action game.
 
Chancey289 said:
I really don't like what Rising is doing and it's because I'm a massive Metal Gear fan. I want my stealth focused gameplay. It's funny if you look on the DMC facebook page they are giving Rising more attention than the Metal Gear fans are. I look at MGS stuff and I see them really all talking about Ground Zeroes and The Phantom Pain. Look at the DMC page and you see childish crying butthurt raging fanboys who still can't get over the reboot and they try to throw Rising stuff on it to act like it's the better game. They aren't Metal Gear fans so I know it's just their stupid bias hatred. I pretend Rising doesn't exist.

They're acting like P* games are the best company ever and I laughed when someone said Bayonetta was a "sophisticated masterpiece". That game was borderline pornography half the time and everything Bayonetta was was fetishistic. Funny how it tried to act like it was ironic because guess what P*, just because you're trying to be ironically fetish like, it doesn't mean someone isn't going to jerk off to it. The Rising fans really are just butthurt fanboys upset over the reboot and are only hopping towards Rising some of them truly think it will send them some kind of message. They're all being a bunch of babies if you ask me. Rising looks like the mediocre game compared to DmC. Screw Raiden and Rising. I'll take my Ground Zeroes instead.
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Very well put! :) I don't mind Rising but it is not as creative or interesting as DmC to me. I also love the MGS series and tend to look forward to Ground Zeroes and The Phantom Pain! They look EPIC :)
 
nightrunner_ks said:
So buying the competitors game will result in Capcom making DMC5? Who the actual **** thought that would work?
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Quote from Batman Begins: "just some nut"! In all seriousness I do not know where these people get their logic... shows how crazy people can be!
 
Heh...all I have to say is that the fans of the old DMC games made me not like MGR in the first place. If they didn't really compare it to DmC, I would've liked it.

VergilNeroDante said:
Just stop complaining already, I'm sure lots are tired reading your inferior reasons to complain about someone's opinion. If you just can't look past this and forget about the apparent 'insults' towards your materpiece then your just a deluded individual who has nothing better to do than complain. You have 12 days left for your game to come and I honestly don't care on the matter, I have the classics to enjoy while you dwell yourself in a corner, drooling over this rehashed crap. Get over it and stop complaining and move on dude, enough is enough. If I truely wanted to bitch to the extent that would have gotten me banned then hey I would have been gone already. I don't think everything about a reboot is bad, I enjoyed Castlevania Lords of Shadows and loved it and it was a reboot.

Stating that Dante is stressed out which caused him the white hair, you overlooked that and took it out of context, I was just being a smartass on how many times he said F you, which again you took out of context, overall you are the one who can't take a simple joke towards a game you think will reboot a series and make it the next best hack n slash. Go pry yourself in a corner where others won't hear your bitching.
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You are so wrong in so many levels.
 
GF9000000Returns said:
Heh...all I have to say is that the fans of the old DMC games made me not like MGR in the first place. If they didn't really compare it to DmC, I would've liked it.
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Don't base your opinions on a game through its fanbase or community. Base it on the game itself. Don't let other people fill your mind with doubt, but experience the game yourself.
 
ZeroLove said:
Don't base your opinions on a game through its fanbase or community. Base it on the game itself. Don't let other people fill your mind with doubt, but experience the game yourself.
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And I did by playing the demo a few weeks ago and the game felt clunky, it really did. I'm like "Is this really the game that people d*ck-ride and worship over DmC?"
 
GF9000000Returns said:
And I did by playing the demo a few weeks ago and the game felt clunky, it really did. I'm like "Is this really the game that people d*ck-ride and worship over DmC?"
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Hmm, I haven't tried the demo yet. It hasn't shown on my PSN. Am I the only one, or has it generally not been released on European PSN? Anyone who knows this?
 
ZeroLove said:
Hmm, I haven't tried the demo yet. It hasn't shown on my PSN. Am I the only one, or has it generally not been released on European PSN? Anyone who knows this?
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Two ways you can get the demo, buy the ZOE HD Collection and the Rising demo is included or have a Japanese PS3 since it is only released on the JP PSN right now.
 
You don't need to have a Japanese PS3 to use the Japanese PSN. You just make a new user, a new PSN account, and set it being in Japan. There's plenty of guides on how to do it on YouTube :p
 
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