All about Dragon Ball/Z/GT/Super
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Yea I feel terrible for Vegeta and I'm not even a big Vegeta fan.
The guy FINALLY caught up with Goku during the Resurrection of F saga only to be left behind again in the next arc with Goku learning to combine SSJB with Kaioken, then he closed the gape again by training to fight Goku Black and now once again in the arc after that Goku now has a all new form which once again leaves Vegeta in the dust, but I believe it was said once by Toriyama that Vegeta is his least favorite Z Fighter so that would explain things, Vegeta probably only get the prominence he has due his large fanbase and thats it.
Ya vegeta is my second fab after goku , then its piccolo and krillin
It is bad enough for him goku has kaoiken x10 to make him way stronger and the kaoiken x20 to make him even stronger again
Now he has a form ao far beyond kaoiken x20 he would probably knock vegeta ssjb out with a flick
And vegeta wouldn't be able to land a single hit on him anyway.
Hopefully vegeta will get the form later , but by then goku will have found a way to ascend further lol
It is bad enough for him goku has kaoiken x10 to make him way stronger and the kaoiken x20 to make him even stronger again
Now he has a form ao far beyond kaoiken x20 he would probably knock vegeta ssjb out with a flick
And vegeta wouldn't be able to land a single hit on him anyway.
Hopefully vegeta will get the form later , but by then goku will have found a way to ascend further lol
Plus Son Goku is the star of the show so he'd naturally get all the new bells and whistles. But the thought of Goku's new form combined with Kaio-Ken screams overpowered. If that happens then I demand Screwattack create a "Son Goku vs Superman 3." I just set myself up for disaster.
Superman will win no matter what happens , i mean goku shook the entire void world
Which canonically is stated to be infinite
So he shook infinity with an energy drained version of this new form
But superman will still win regardless
Which canonically is stated to be infinite
So he shook infinity with an energy drained version of this new form
But superman will still win regardless
Is your female friend single?
(Looks at your gender) So, how you doin'?
More then likely your bud has been keeping up with the show and saw the latest episode. Cruchyroll had a melt down when teying to upload the episode because everyone and their mother was trying to view it. As a DB fan it brought warmth to my heart. Then pure, unadulterated rage because I couldn't watch the episode during said down time period. :bored:
Yes, she is a single mother of a 4-year beautiful girl. Watching DB has been their favorite bonding time. She really is crazy about it, from her iphone case, pillows, shirts, bed sheets, etc. its all about Goku.
I am currently babysitting my 2-years old cousin, she doesn't want to go to bed.
Dark Drakan
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Yeah for sure. :thumbsup:
Vegeta has always been my favourite (obviously) and sucks that they always find a way to 'leave him behind' even when hes the most dedicated fighter and trains the most out of everyone. Shame Toriyama dislikes him so much as he has a great character arc over the course of the series.
Vegeta tears his body to shreds , goku trains smarter so he gains more.Plus its been stated multiple times goku has more potential and has faster growth and gains.Vegeta never accepts help , and he almost bever trains with anyone else.Goku also figures thigs out faster, he may seem dumb normally but when it comes to fighting he is a genius.That's the reason vegeta is always behind.If vegeta changed a few things they would progress at an equal rate , especially if they trained together all the time
What? Is this legit? I always thought Toriyama reflects himself in vegeta..
And how the hell can a writer dislikes his own character?
Dark Drakan
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Apparently so, been mentioned in quite a few interviews and such that he dislikes Vegeta. Im sure it was said before that he only kept Vegeta around for fan service reasons.
''When the artist was asked who is favorite characters were, Toriyama said Piccolo and Goku are about equal at his top spot. And, in the same response, the creator quickly said he was not Vegeta’s biggest fans.
“Out of all the enemies, Piccolo Daimaō is the one I like most, and even after that I like Piccolo the most. I like Piccolo about the same as I like Goku,” Toriyama said. “With Vegeta, well, I don’t like him all that much, but he was extremely helpful to have around.”
SOURCE
A family that watches Dragon Ball together stays together.
But didn't a recent (a few years old at this point) interview have Toriyama speak better about Vegeta. Something about having him be a main character at some point? I'll have to look up the quote within Kanzenshuu's endless supply of translated quotes.
But didn't a recent (a few years old at this point) interview have Toriyama speak better about Vegeta. Something about having him be a main character at some point? I'll have to look up the quote within Kanzenshuu's endless supply of translated quotes.
I remember that, but I think that was BEFORE he said the he dislikes Vegeta thing, I believe that was stated during the Resurrection of f movie release which gave hope that Vegeta may finally play a prominent/lead role in the movie (which he somewhat did with obtaining SSJB), but the dislike Vegeta part came up later during the Universe 6 vs Universe 7 arc if I'm not mistaken.
Ok now you got my brain ticking because I remember that quote around the Battle of Gods movie. I have to search Kanzenshuu!
So I noticed that the show keeps mentiong Jiren's "glare and his "willpower." Perhaps these two intertwined things are the key to defeating Jiren! The Pride Trooper tends to unleash his biggest attacks whenever his eyes flicker, open wide, and/or etc. I'd say a well timed Solar Flare would spell doom for him.
Granted this is merely a theory mind you.
Granted this is merely a theory mind you.
Clearly jiren doesn't have uktra instinct either, he had to focus on hit to block and attack time skip.
Plus hit actually caught him off guard
So jiren is just insanely fast and strong , but if goku masters the form he will beat him
Plus hit actually caught him off guard
So jiren is just insanely fast and strong , but if goku masters the form he will beat him
That sums up the difference between their characters, since the beginning. Vegeta is a "soldier" while Goku is a "student". Goku's been brought up to expect and believe that there's always someone stronger than he is, and betters himself by training. He has no problem training under those stronger than he is, and exploring new ways, learning techniques from them, because he doesn't have pride in that way that he sees doing that as debasing. Losses reaffirm that he needs to train and improve in order to do better next time. And every next time, he knows a new thing. Whether it was the use of weighted clothing or the Afterimage Technique/Phantom Star back in Dragonball, to the Kaioken and Spirit Bomb in DBZ.
Whereas Vegeta was brought up never to fight a battle he couldn't lose and therefore only faced weaker opponents, because all fights were more or less to the death. He only ever trained by himself-- he caught up to Goku recently because he's trained under Whis, which meant actually having someone stronger than him observe his fighting and point out his mistakes/flaws. Vegeta's "strategy" for training and fighting until then was doing the same thing, but harder. What really is the difference between Galick Gun, Big Bang Attack, Final Burst Cannon, Final Flash, and Gamma Burst Flash? They're all just bigger versions of the previous thing (FBC is GG but improved, FF is a more powerful version of Final Crash that he used on Recoome, GBF is FF but with hands inverted, Final Shine is FF but with only one hand).
Goku is a variety of foods, while Vegeta is a tortilla.
His fighting style has never deviated from being ki-centric and brute force, rushdown type. Meanwhile I still remember when Goku countered Roshi's Drunken Fist with an improvised "Crazy Monkey"/"Angry Dog" fighting style. When will Vegeta ever do that?
As for this episode, Hit went out like a champ. But I found it completely disrespectful that they reused the "Jiren vs Kale" animation for him. He should've gotten something more original.
Wow that was a fantastic analysis , very well put and i wholeheartedly agree
http://www.gameinformer.com/b/featu...preciation-for-the-dragon-ball-franchise.aspx
I liked DBZ as a kid but never got into it as an adult. I thought this article was fun and thought it was worth sharing.
PS. Super saiyan 4 was my favorite design.
I liked DBZ as a kid but never got into it as an adult. I thought this article was fun and thought it was worth sharing.
PS. Super saiyan 4 was my favorite design.