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Were the reviews really paid or people aren't buying it?

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IncarnatedDemon

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That's pretty much my constand fear when I design a character. What if it's been done bofore? What if people think it's a rip-off??! :p

But not everyone might be aware of it. And you said before that Hollow Vergil does not necessarily have to be a Bleach rip-off, so looking at examples of other might-or-might-not-be rip-offs kinda illustrates that point, doesn't it?
Looking at other rip offs doesn't give you idea whether it's a rip off Bleach or not.

You'd need to know who designed HollowVergil or came up with idea, then do research on what nationalty he or she is.

Or even try to find stuff relating to Hollows in British culture since NT is a british studio.


Looking at other rip offs isnt really the solution. As rip offs can be very obvious or they can be subtle.
 

Alittleacorn

Smile it confuses people
That's pretty much my constand fear when I design a character. What if it's been done bofore? What if people think it's a rip-off??! :p
God I am exactly the same when I'm writing original material. I try to keep it original, but every once and while I just go "wait! that's too much like that show! AAAAH!" and change things around. Even down to what I visualise a character in my mind, I'm like this. :lol:
 

SugarMoon

It's One on One.
God I am exactly the same when I'm writing original material. I try to keep it original, but every once and while I just go "wait! that's too much like that show! AAAAH!" and change things around. Even down to what I visualise a character in my mind, I'm like this. :lol:
Remember that avatar of that big breasted chick I had at one point? Maybe not but still, I designed her and I've had so many people compare her to Jessica Rabbit lol. It happens. Just gotta roll with it. :cool:
 

Demi-fiend

Metempsychosis
Supporter 2014
That's pretty much my constand fear when I design a character. What if it's been done bofore? What if people think it's a rip-off??! :p

But not everyone might be aware of it. And you said before that Hollow Vergil does not necessarily have to be a Bleach rip-off, so looking at examples of other might-or-might-not-be rip-offs kinda illustrates that point, doesn't it?

God I am exactly the same when I'm writing original material. I try to keep it original, but every once and while I just go "wait! that's too much like that show! AAAAH!" and change things around. Even down to what I visualise a character in my mind, I'm like this. :lol:

Dear God, the both of your need to calm down. Let your characters flow. And damn the consequences. :ermm:

Edit:

Remember that avatar of that big breasted chick I had at one point?

How could I forget? :shifty:

It happens. Just gotta roll with it.

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Sunaka Marién

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Looking at other rip offs doesn't give you idea whether it's a rip
Bleach or not.

You'd need to know who designed HollowVergil or came up with idea, then do research on what nationalty he or she is.

Or even try to find stuff relating to Hollows in British culture since NT is a british studio.


Looking at other rip offs isnt really the solution. As rip offs can be very obvious or they can be subtle.
It might not be the solution to the problem - I never said it was - but it does illustrate the point that Hollow Virgil does not necessarily have to be a rip-off, with the reasoning that things like that happened before.
And if a rip-off would be subtle, I don't think it would be labeled as a rip-off, but as an inspiration.
God I am exactly the same when I'm writing original material. I try to keep it original, but every once and while I just go "wait! that's too much like that show! AAAAH!" and change things around. Even down to what I visualise a character in my mind, I'm like this. :lol:
Yeah, it just makes you crazy, doesn't it? >_<
 

IncarnatedDemon

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It might not be the solution to the problem - I never said it was - but it does illustrate the point that Hollow Virgil does not necessarily have to be a rip-off, with the reasoning that things like that happened before.
And if a rip-off would be subtle, I don't think it would be labeled as a rip-off, but as an inspiration.

Yeah, it just makes you crazy, doesn't it? >_<
So your saying because rip offs happen that HollowVergil being a rip off may not be a rip off because ripping off happens so much that its normal? Did i understand you correctly?

Subtle rip off
http://www.factpile.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/01/dante-vergil-vs-inuyasha-sesshomaru.jpg

Obvious rip off
http://bleachness.livejournal.com/446299.html


HollowVergil seems like a subtle rip off.
 

Alittleacorn

Smile it confuses people
Dear God, the both of your need to calm down. Let your characters flow. And damn the consequences. :ermm:

How could I forget? :shifty:



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Okay, I'm going to write a story about a singer named Ric-er Richard, a blazing red-ah brunette. And eeerm, he creates a new song called um...never....always gonna give you up, always gonna let you down.

And he'll have a love interested name Un-aaah! Ursula! URSULA! Who loves dancing around fences and, and stuff.

Yep:cool: totally in show business
 

IncarnatedDemon

Well-known Member
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They'll never know the difference... :shifty:
Actually i do. And you got that picture from the link i posted.


But mypoint was: subtle rip offs are hard to find out if its a rip off or not.

I dont think Dante character is a rip off from Inuyasha because Dante was Cobra and Blade combined.
Plus Dante's white hair = japanese folklore white hair represented supernatural i.e meant u were possesed by a demon.

But i think Vergil in DMC 3 was kinda rip off from Inuyasha
+ Rebellion
+ Yamato

And some other things.
 

Demi-fiend

Metempsychosis
Supporter 2014
And you got that picture from the link i posted.

Yes. Yes, I did.

Was I ripping you off? :(

Edit:

I dont think Dante character is a rip off from Inuyasha because Dante was Cobra and Blade combined.
Plus Dante's white hair = japanese folklore white hair represented supernatural i.e meant u were possesed by a demon.

Dante is a combination of Blade and Alucard. That's double-threat right there. :/

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"I'm not Dante, I swear!"

Edit:

Oh, and Fierce-Deity Link

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"Step off, posers."
 

SugarMoon

It's One on One.
So your saying because rip offs happen that HollowVergil being a rip off may not be a rip off because ripping off happens so much that its normal? Did i understand you correctly?

Subtle rip off
http://www.factpile.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/01/dante-vergil-vs-inuyasha-sesshomaru.jpg

Obvious rip off
http://bleachness.livejournal.com/446299.html


HollowVergil seems like a subtle rip off.
For some reason that Bleach/Incartnate incident ticks me off. I really don't know why.

P.S. I forgot how interesting Bleach's style looked. I'm in love with it.
 

Sunaka Marién

Well-known Member
So your saying because rip offs happen that HollowVergil being a rip off may not be a rip off because ripping off happens so much that its normal? Did i understand you correctly?

Subtle rip off
http://www.factpile.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/01/dante-vergil-vs-inuyasha-sesshomaru.jpg

Obvious rip off
http://bleachness.livejournal.com/446299.html


HollowVergil seems like a subtle rip off.
No, you misunderstood. What I was trying to say is that, the images Acorn posted were examples of characters that might seem like a rip-off at first, but might in not really be rip-offs, but just character desings that are coincidally very similar.
So if we assume that these character desingns were in deed not rip-off, but just coincidences, we can also assume that this might be the same case with Hollow Vergil.
About subtle rip-offs: Ah, ok, if that's your definition of subtle and obvious rip-off, I understand what you mean :3
For some reason that Bleach/Incartnate incident ticks me off. I really don't know why.

P.S. I forgot how interesting Bleach's style looked. I'm in love with it.
Me too (on both of the things you said). I was just sitting here throwing quite a tantrum when I first heard of that Incartnate stuff :mad:
 

IncarnatedDemon

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Dante being a rip off is another discussion.
Since i dont know much about Cobra i cant say if hes a rip off or not.

I know though
white hair = japanese folklore
red clothes = Kamiya wanted him to be flashy
Half demon = Blade is half vampire so wasnt a rip off from Blade's hybrid

But again i have little to contribute to such things as i havent watched or read Cobra manga.
 

Demi-fiend

Metempsychosis
Supporter 2014
"Wasn't a ripoff of Blade's hybrid"?

"Another discussion"?

Must be nice, being able to change the rules at your convenience. -_-
 
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