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"I need more power"

Railazel

Well-known Member
What makes you think that Vergil would have beaten Mundus if he wasn't weakened by Dante?

Because Vergil's exhaustion was the only thing that prevented him from beating Mundus. That was kind of hinted at during the scene considering the oh-so-perfect timing of Mundus' appearance.

Anyways, to answer the OP's question, Vergil didn't have any plans for how he was going to use that power. Simply put, his motivation for attaining power was to be like his father:

"What are you going to do with all that power, huh? No matter how hard you try you'll never gonna be like father."

"We're wasting time!"

Dante's little lecture to Vergil hints that Vergil was probably inspired by the stories of his father which would lead to him dreaming of the day he would be just as powerful as his daddy (in the same way a young boy would want to be like his father). The murder of his mother was probably turned what would be a nice little goal into an all- out obsession.
 

DarkSlayerZero

DMC1 Dante>>>>>>2-4
Because Vergil's exhaustion was the only thing that prevented him from beating Mundus. That was kind of hinted at during the scene considering the oh-so-perfect timing of Mundus' appearance.

It took Dante+10 yrs of experience+Sparda Sword just to be on equal ground with Mundus, my boy Vergil has non of those.
 

TheRebelliousDevil

Well-known Member
What makes you think that Vergil would have beaten Mundus if he wasn't weakened by Dante?

The way he breathes after the fall just reveals how exhausted he is, and Mundus appears right then.
The battle against Vergil 2 with Beowulf was the hardest for me, even if it took me about 4 times to figure out Vergil 3's attack pattern. But after you do that, your victory is guaranteed.
 

Railazel

Well-known Member
It took Dante+10 yrs of experience+Sparda Sword just to be on equal ground with Mundus, my boy Vergil has non of those.

Who ever said Dante and Vergil were equal in strength? In DMC3, Vergil is initially stronger than Dante, but fighting without rest causes him to end in a draw the second time they fight and lose on their third rematch. In DMC1, Nelo Angelo almost defeats Dante the first time they fight.
 

D-Sparda

Nothing is true, everything is permitted
The way he breathes after the fall just reveals how exhausted he is, and Mundus appears right then.
The battle against Vergil 2 with Beowulf was the hardest for me, even if it took me about 4 times to figure out Vergil 3's attack pattern. But after you do that, your victory is guaranteed.
I don't know how what you said help your argument(especially the the second boss battle against Vergil part), but you should read the post above you.
 

DarkSlayerZero

DMC1 Dante>>>>>>2-4
Who ever said Dante and Vergil were equal in strength? In DMC3, Vergil is initially stronger than Dante, but fighting without rest causes him to end in a draw the second time they fight and lose on their third rematch. In DMC1, Nelo Angelo almost defeats Dante the first time they fight.

Nelo was whooping Dante, there isn't an almost, he disarmed and had Dante in a chokehold after the fight.
 

D-Sparda

Nothing is true, everything is permitted
True but in the other two fights Nelo didn't stand a chance. Dante wasn't even panting like he did with Mundus.
I must praise Dante to suddenly increase in power or learn from their first fight to defeat him easily on the second one.
 

Tony_Redgrave

TimeLord Detective
Moderator
I must praise Dante to suddenly increase in power or learn from their first fight to defeat him easily on the second one.

Or in their first battle he didn't try really hard. He probably thought this new-guy was about Phantom's level or something, which is why he lost easily.
 

D-Sparda

Nothing is true, everything is permitted
Or in their first battle he didn't try really hard. He probably thought this new-guy was about Phantom's level or something, which is why he lost easily.
If that's the case, then Dante almost blew his chance to face of against Mundus to avenge his mother's death.
I'm starting to find that a pretty common trope in some games.
Main characters are immune to logic.
 

TheRebelliousDevil

Well-known Member
I don't know how what you said help your argument(especially the the second boss battle against Vergil part), but you should read the post above you.

TheRebelliousDevil said:
The way he breathes after the fall just reveals how exhausted he is, and Mundus appears right then.

That surely did help my arguments. Also, an answer to the text in bold: it wasn't even meant to help my arguments.

Post above my previous post:
It took Dante+10 yrs of experience+Sparda Sword just to be on equal ground with Mundus, my boy Vergil has non of those.

I read it. And? Doesn't make sense to me.
 

Tony_Redgrave

TimeLord Detective
Moderator
If that's the case, then Dante almost blew his chance to face of against Mundus to avenge his mother's death.

Up until then he wasn't really serious. But from then on he adapted a more serious approach. (2nd fight with Phantom etc.)Maybe it was a lesson to him.
 

D-Sparda

Nothing is true, everything is permitted
That surely did help my arguments. Also, an answer to the text in bold: it wasn't even meant to help my arguments.
I don't see how. All you did his said what I already knew. What I wanted you to do his to prove that Vergil would have defeated Mundus if he was at full capacity.



I read it. And? Doesn't make sense to me.
I'm going to give you my version of what DarkSlayerZero said.

DMC1 Dante is clearly superior to DMC3 Vergil in terms of power, but to vanquish Mundus he needed to use his father's sword. At the end of the first round Mundus managed to get rid off the Sparda devil trigger of Dante. Second round, Dante still used the sword, but this time with all of his equipements. Third round Dante needed Trish's power plus his own combined to finish off Mundus to sealed him again.

The minute Vergil saw Mundus it sealed his fate. Exausted or not.

It'll be fun to fight with the Prince of Darkness. If my father did it. I should be able to do it too!
One of Vergil's badass quotes. He may have lost, but as a true warrior to the end.
 

Sparda's rejected son

For Edenoi!
Premium
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Ultimate Marvel vs Capcom 3 Vergil profile says Vergil wants more power because he feels bad that he couldn't save his mother. He wants power to protect his loved ones.
 

CoolDemon

X will never be Y
Ultimate Marvel vs Capcom 3 Vergil profile says Vergil wants more power because he feels bad that he couldn't save his mother. He wants power to protect his loved ones.
Which is exactly what me and Deamonslayer concluded without any facts.

Me and Deamonslayer are awesome :)

the rest of you - not so bad. Here's a kitten caption picture for ya :

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darkslayer13

Enma Katana no Kami
Ultimate Marvel vs Capcom 3 Vergil profile says Vergil wants more power because he feels bad that he couldn't save his mother. He wants power to protect his loved ones.

well Capcom said it so i guess that makes it canon. it's a bit annoying that the only official explanation for Vergil's motive was in his profile in a specific version of a crossover fighting game but DMC3 hinted at that motive so it makes sense.
 

TheRebelliousDevil

Well-known Member
I don't see how. All you did his said what I already knew.
You might have known it but I told it since I didn't do it before, and how could I know that you remember how Vergil exactly behaves after the fall?

I'm going to give you my version of what DarkSlayerZero said.

DMC1 Dante is clearly superior to DMC3 Vergil in terms of power, but to vanquish Mundus he needed to use his father's sword. At the end of the first round Mundus managed to get rid off the Sparda devil trigger of Dante. Second round, Dante still used the sword, but this time with all of his equipements. Third round Dante needed Trish's power plus his own combined to finish off Mundus to sealed him again.

The minute Vergil saw Mundus it sealed his fate. Exausted or not.

I don't think Vergil was that stupid to attack Mundus without his father's sword, which is the only weapon that can defeat Mundus and unseal the portal. Vergil even said "If my father did it, I should be able to do it too!"
 
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