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Y'know what? I can't accept this.

VOLPE

SSStylish Swordsman
He is unstoppable in DMC 2 and in shin megami tensei he is more than god like so any game set after that he will be ridiculous mind boggling powerful which means combat will be fantastic fun

it means making the enemies harder then ever and eleminating easy and normal and having sos being the "normal" and everything else being hard so dmd and maybe even making some new mode? i hate heaven and hell completely unneccessary and hell or hell is a bitch lol
 

Lionheart

Solid Ocelot
It's not the same. The backtracking we're talking about in the older DMCs was just kinda your typical old school gaming trope. Which was basically going back and forth in the same general areas in order to find a couple of things that if mated together would give birth to progress.

No, I never said it was. But for me, coming to the same place over and over is backtracking, and it's just as bad as going back the way you came from. If I were to make a DMC game, I would not include backtracking at all. Not even one room, if I could help it. I don't want to fight the same enemies and see the same spaces, just to get an item I wasn't able to get the first time.
 

VOLPE

SSStylish Swordsman
Well it is harder to fight em without JC exploits to be fair but the more you do it the better you will get and ten you will find faster ways and our own ways to kill em u gotta analyse everything on hell and hell first time through

Atm i have the strategy of using the demension slash to knock them back then switching to swordmaster and using overdrive quickly and then using shotgun moving away to set up for the demension slash again and then using the dt stinger and once ive got them down to one i have some fun with it as by that time im ****ed off lol
 

berto

I Saw the Devil
Moderator
DMC4: Go all the way forward through castles, forest, and a tower...now do it all again in reverse.
And with absolutely no difference in level design. In DMC1 the castle at lease morphed a bit and changed from day to night. DMC4 didn't even bother. The only change is rain in the forest and some clouds which looked lazy and uninteresting and it was obvious that it wasn't part of the original design while in DMC1 it was very obviously planed. DMC3 was even better since the entire tower twisted and rooms were no longer where you left them, and it was also obviously a planed and designed change, not a 'we ran out of money' situation.

It's not the same. The backtracking we're talking about in the older DMCs was just kinda your typical old school gaming trope. Which was basically going back and forth in the same general areas in order to find a couple of things that if mated together would give birth to progress.
Not quite. DMC1 is in the same league as other Capcom horror survival games like RE2 and Haunting Ground in staging and level design. The only difference with DMC1 and those games' level designs is the fact that DMC1 is divided by missions, and that was a last minute decision to distinguish it from RE.
 

VOLPE

SSStylish Swordsman
And with absolutely no difference in level design. In DMC1 the castle at lease morphed a bit and changed from day to night. DMC4 didn't even bother. The only change is rain in the forest and some clouds which looked lazy and uninteresting and it was obvious that it wasn't part of the original design while in DMC1 it was very obviously planed. DMC3 was even better since the entire tower twisted and rooms were no longer where you left them, and it was also obviously a planed and designed change, not a 'we ran out of money' situation.


Not quite. DMC1 is in the same league as other Capcom horror survival games like RE2 and Haunting Ground in staging and level design. The only difference with DMC1 and those games' level designs is the fact that DMC1 is divided by missions, and that was a last minute decision to distinguish it from RE.

DMC3 did it right the levels changed so much you couldnt even call it back tracking it was more like im lost and need to find out where im going and everything has been mismatched and nothings where i left it lol
 

Jak

i like turtles
Supporter 2014
ok. time to diffuse this situation. i agree with the op 90%. its apparently the last time i got to see my icon, and that is NOT...the way i want to remember him. i see DMC4 dante as a parody of himself. and thats coming from me of all people. the ****-head that always tells people to lighten up. but jesus h christ, i can't stand DMC4 dante. however, there are those who love him and see him as the ideal version of the character. i can't challenge that because thats just who they are and how they feel...but srsly? chaps? you hate the way donte looks but you're perfectly ok with chaps? if the guy i most hated in this world was drugged and he was unknowingly wearing chaps, i'd help him take those off.
 

DragonMaster2010

Don't Let the Fall of America be Your Fall
ok. time to diffuse this situation. i agree with the op 90%. its apparently the last time i got to see my icon, and that is NOT...the way i want to remember him. i see DMC4 dante as a parody of himself. and thats coming from me of all people. the ****-head that always tells people to lighten up. but jesus h christ, i can't stand DMC4 dante. however, there are those who love him and see him as the ideal version of the character. i can't challenge that because thats just who they are and how they feel...but srsly? chaps? you hate the way donte looks but you're perfectly ok with chaps? if the guy i most hated in this world was drugged and he was unknowingly wearing chaps, i'd help him take those off.

Well it's not like I'm trying to convince people to agree with me. I'm just more so saying if this was the last carnation of classic Dante we'll see then that's a bit disappointing.
 

Caiden

Well-known Member
Compared to Dante in other DMC games I don't really like or dislike him. He is just kind of there for me. I think DMC3 Dante is a much better character since we see him go through a change while still keeping his attitude. DMC4 Dante has some funny situations and some really bad*** moments but at the same time it can be bit much. Personally I will always remember DMC3 Dante as my favorite. He might not be great in DMC4 but I still like him more than DmC Dante.
 

Jak

i like turtles
Supporter 2014
Well it's not like I'm trying to convince people to agree with me. I'm just more so saying if this was the last carnation of classic Dante we'll see then that's a bit disappointing.
i gothcu cuz. i'm agreeing with you. i didn't say you were trying to convert people. i was just reminding everyone that we all have our own mind thingies in our minds. so...yeah. sorry if that came out as something different
 

DMCGamer1989

Well-known Member
I understand where Dragonmaster is coming from and I respect his opinion as a Devil May Cry fan. But this thread has really gone to hell. Like, past the point of simply criticizing a disliked character and nearing complete hate. Guys, seriously, not cool. And no, I've heard it all before, so before anyone says anything of the sort, bashing DmC Dante is just as bad. Let people enjoy their respective Dantes and only give contructive criticisim, I think we've had enough people passing off their perspectives, however "educated" they are as facts. Some people like the relatively well developed DmC Dante and some like the fun and ambiguous DMC Dante.

And for the record... Tumblr is a horrible place to discuss Devil May Cry based on the posts I've read. We have the worst of both sides of the fanbase there, I'm not generalizing, just reiterating what I've seen. We have people giving horrifyingly pretentious pseudo reviews and people thinking they're literrary geniuses for understanding a plot that basically tells you everything on the get-go and trolls that just **** you off for a quick giggle. Though I've seen some good discussions there.
 
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Caiden

Well-known Member
I understand where Dragonmaster is coming from and I respect his opinion as a Devil May Cry fan. But this thread has really gone to hell. Like, past the point of simply criticizing a disliked character and nearing complete hate. Guys, seriously, not cool. And no, I've heard it all before, so before anyone says anything of the sort, bashing DmC Dante is just as bad. Let people enjoy their respective Dantes and only give contructive criticisim, I think we've had enough people passing off their perspectives, however "educated" they are as facts. Some people like the relatively well developed DmC Dante and some like the fun and ambiguous DMC Dante.

No one should be trying to act like anything said here about Dante is a fact. Anyones thoughts and feelings about Dante are going to be completely opinion based.
 
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