Why the Nero hate?

[Dante Redgrave]

Red Queen is a highly customize version of the standard Order blade, but it was still a human made weapon, not a demonic one. That thing should have crumbled on impact the way he deflected Berial's thrust. Sparda blood or not, a quarter breed wouldn't be able to do that, let alone be transforming on the level he was into a demonic form.

 

[Valcorn]

Except Agnus created the Order's swords with alchemy and what ****, thus those swords were likely made from Vergil's fragments as well.

 

[Dante Redgrave]

Where did they say that Agnus made the order's weapons? He's a researcher who deals with demon energy applied to the knights, not to common weapons. So...yeah, citation? The fact still stands; Red Queen should have friggin' crumpled from Berial's sword impact.

 

[meg5493]

Where did they say that Agnus made the order's weapons? He's a researcher who deals with demon energy applied to the knights, not to common weapons. So...yeah, citation? The fact still stands; Red Queen should have friggin' crumpled from Berial's sword impact.

but it was modified

 

[Dante Redgrave]

I'd have to check the stats again, but Red Queen was modified with an advanced version of the rev system already build into the standard swordarm of the Order Knights, which was designed to injected a highly flamable fuel from ports along the blade to cause more damage, and little more than that.

 

[Valcorn]

http://devilmaycry.wikia.com/wiki/Order_of_the_Sword

 

[Dante Redgrave]

~checks~ Okay, been a while since I looked on the DMC4 files. However, please cite me where it suggests he made the Caliburns and Durandals from Vergil's fragments, because that was only a year prior when Nero Angelo destructed and released Vergil's soul, and Agnus has been weapons designer and alchemist for the Order for YEARS prior to that.

 

[Valcorn]

No, Agnus' comments made it seem like he was in possession of Yamato for a while, unless Capcom officially confirms the timeline, DMC4 isn't set 1 year after DMC1

 

[Dante Redgrave]

So you continued outright ignore dev team and director inteviews made after the games development finished(october 2007, four months before release was the date of Kobayashi's ten year time gap between dmc3 and dmc4, after development had essentially finished), and confirmed timeline of one year between dmc1 and 4 as the anime was the events between them, again confirmed by Kobayashi, who wrote some episodes of the anime, thus CEMENTING it's canonical status...

So yeah, DMC4 is one year after DMC1, and Dante was 29, not nearing forty. While Agnus may have had Yamato for some time(how the hell he even got it is a mystery since Nero Angelo's Zweihander is NOT Yamato, and this Yamato would probably have been left somewhere in the Demon World after Vergil was killed and soulforged into Nero Angelo), the fragments of Vergil's soul would not have been for more than a year at best...how they even GOT pieces of the soulforged armor brings up MANY questions... You may have your pwn personal canon, but the offical canon says Mallet Island and the resealing of Mundus in DMC1 was one year prior to DMC4 occuring.

 

[Lionheart]

No, Agnus' comments made it seem like he was in possession of Yamato for a while, unless Capcom officially confirms the timeline, DMC4 isn't set 1 year after DMC1

Actually, he only said ''It has only been a few years since I began this research… Could we isolate and bind demonic power, it could enable us to conquer the world! And that, that is the wish of His Holiness!"

So he's talking about his research, not the Yamato. And the guys at Capcom said DMC4 takes place approximately ten years after DMC3. Dante was 19 in DMC3, so we can safely assume he's around 30 years old. Definitely not 35, at least.

 

[Valcorn]

"approximately a decade" may be 15 years later.

 

[Lionheart]

"approximately a decade" may be 15 years later.

They literally said approximately ten years, not a decade (even though that's the same thing). And no, if they meant fifteen years, they would've said 'approximately fifteen years', not approximately ten years.

 

[Valcorn]

Maybe Trish's statement of "20 years ago, you lost your..." wasn't literal, maybe it was "about 20 years ago"

 

[Caiden]

Your trying too hard.

 

[Valcorn]

Your trying too hard.

Not quite hard enough. Anyways, at this point this thread should be renamed to "fanfic may cry"

 

[Caiden]

There is evidence to back most of these theories. That puts them above most fanfics.

 

[Lionheart]

Not quite hard enough. Anyways, at this point this thread should be renamed to "fanfic may cry"

Weren't you the one who put out the most unsubstantiated theories? It's pretty easy to accuse people without looking at yourself.

 

[Valcorn]

No, because Nero being Vergil's kid has some official weight to it.

 

[Lionheart]

No, because Nero being Vergil's kid has some official weight to it.

Again, no, it doesn't. You might like to think it does, but it doesn't. We've been over this already.

If he were Vergil's son, Capcom would just say so, and maybe even continue with the old DMC series. Instead, they decided to reboot the franchise. Gee, I wonder why? >_<

 

[Dante Redgrave]

No, because Nero being Vergil's kid has some official weight to it.

WHAT official weight? A non-canon novel writen by an ex employee AFTER he already left the company with vague and contridictory "hints"? Dante was 29 in DMC4, that carries offical weight since the director had said just four months before release "DMC4 takes place ten years after DMC3", and Istuno, DMC3's director, stated that Dante and Vergil were 19 in DMC3. Which, by the way, also puts official weight to the idea that Sparda has at more kids than just Dante and Vergil in the 2k years he was in the human world, since there are legends about a set of twins that cannot be Dante and vergil.