Really, NT have butchered the DMC Mythos enough.
Let's make it snappy and make Dante cool again before we re-butcher Vergil's character
Let's make it snappy and make Dante cool again before we re-butcher Vergil's character
Which Vergil you'd like to see: villain or hero? [SPOILERS]
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Well, NT leave the redemption option open with the DLC. If we accept that Eva is in fact a representation of Vergils good or Angelic side, "she" is still there, buried away. If there is a DmC 2 with Vergil as the big bad, his redemption may make a better ending than his death. The last levels could actually be fought in his mind/soul, with Dante having to free "Eva" and save his brother from himself.
For DmC2 i want to see Vergil be evil and his good half is talking to him to try and regain control.it would be a race to find sparda and get force edge at the end Vergil and Nelo Angelo split off which would be the final boss and would be like the arkham fight where it is 2 player. Then Dante and Vergil are bros open a shop and hunt demons and help humans rebuild that which was destroyed. Both are playable with their own stories(bosses are mirrored for say dante vs vergil and vice versa) Nelo angelo would not be dead and as a post dlc it would show him manifest onto a man he believes is a good host. Which would set up for DmC3 where it is nero struggling to control nelo who makes him believe Dante and Vergil to be the enemy. Nelo had promised that if he did what he said he would help Nero save kyrie who is close to dying. Near the end Nero gains control over him (epic boss battle) but does not get rid of him. There would be a final boss that is not Nero but a greater evil cant think of who and i dont want mundus to be brought back as a final boss. The aftermath is nero joins dante and vergil, dante is the one that waits in the shop for people to come to give him jobs, vergil plans out jobs and where to take out the demons and nero goes around and finds himself jobs. All three are playable with seperate stories.
i just wanna c Sparda for once, like the actual Sparda, and he cleans up his own damn mess XD
I would like Vergil to be against Dante, to prove that he is the true Son of Sparda.
Also, I'd like to see him gaining more power, to the point in which we aren't sure if Dante can beat him.
Speaking of which... that gives me a great idea.
In DmC2, we should only be given slight nods to Vergil.
Have the conflict be an external force that Dante has to deal with not involving anything personal. Maybe it's a job Dante was given from his newly formed business, Devil May Cry. The job should involve Angels in some way.
My point being, is that we should hear rumors during the story that Vergil is gaining power, as well as an army to fight Dante and the humans, and to achieve ultimate power.
DmC3 could be more about Dante and Vergil.
Also, I'd like to see him gaining more power, to the point in which we aren't sure if Dante can beat him.
Speaking of which... that gives me a great idea.
In DmC2, we should only be given slight nods to Vergil.
Have the conflict be an external force that Dante has to deal with not involving anything personal. Maybe it's a job Dante was given from his newly formed business, Devil May Cry. The job should involve Angels in some way.
My point being, is that we should hear rumors during the story that Vergil is gaining power, as well as an army to fight Dante and the humans, and to achieve ultimate power.
DmC3 could be more about Dante and Vergil.
I thought Vergil already was the hero of sorts? I mean he did get the idea of giving mankind its freedom back. Sure, he did it with the mindset that he was going to rule over them afterward, but he did say he would treat them with respect. What's wrong with him acknowledging that he's not human, that he's stronger than a human and that he wants to protect them? I mean, really, if Dante didn't go all 'you're a douche, waaaah, you didn't tell me about this beforehand', then it wouldn't have been such a horrible thing. Would it?
I think Dante jumped to conclusions. Who says Vergil wouldn't have been a good ruler? He did say that they would be nothing like Mundus. I mean, think about it. Kat probably wouldn't have minded being a subject to Vergil (or Dante).
....okay, maybe she would.
Man. Whatever. I'm siding with Vergil.
Also, I don't see Vergil as hero or villain. I think he's in between. Does bad things with good intentions. Or does good things with bad intentions. Depends on how you look at it.
I think Dante jumped to conclusions. Who says Vergil wouldn't have been a good ruler? He did say that they would be nothing like Mundus. I mean, think about it. Kat probably wouldn't have minded being a subject to Vergil (or Dante).
....okay, maybe she would.
Man. Whatever. I'm siding with Vergil.
Also, I don't see Vergil as hero or villain. I think he's in between. Does bad things with good intentions. Or does good things with bad intentions. Depends on how you look at it.
The point, Dante's Stalker, is that there is no clear hero or villain.
Dante represents rebellion, for either the good and bad, while Vergil represents powerful order, for the same reasons.
The player is allowed to come to their own conclusions.
For me, I don't think anyone has the right to rule over anybody. I believe in true equality.
No matter how powerful the higher power may be, they should have more humility than to rule.
Rather, they should stay as silent guardians.
Dante represents rebellion, for either the good and bad, while Vergil represents powerful order, for the same reasons.
The player is allowed to come to their own conclusions.
For me, I don't think anyone has the right to rule over anybody. I believe in true equality.
No matter how powerful the higher power may be, they should have more humility than to rule.
Rather, they should stay as silent guardians.
sooo ur tellin' me we got demonic Assassins n Templars?
I thought Date was pretty clearly a type 2 Anti-Hero whereas Vergil was either a type 4 Anti-hero or a type 2 Anti-Villain
Well: http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Analysis/AntiHero?from=Main.SlidingScaleOfAntiHeroes
They changed it, so Dante's a classical Anti-hero, Neutral turned good.
Vergil's a type 3: a pragmatic Hero or :http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/SlidingScaleOfAntiVillains
A type 1 Anti Villain: A noble Villain
They changed it, so Dante's a classical Anti-hero, Neutral turned good.
Vergil's a type 3: a pragmatic Hero or :http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/SlidingScaleOfAntiVillains
A type 1 Anti Villain: A noble Villain
At first I wanted him to be an anti-hero but after playing Vergil's Downfall last night, I want him as a villain now. He's half Nelo-Angelo now, the ending made him look evil, and the brother rivalry...oh how I forgot about that.
Reminds me of this.
50 Cent- Dante, Ja Rule-Vergil.
Reminds me of this.
So, like a person battling is own dark side personified is totally owned by Bleach even though the sh!t's been done many times even before that even existed. The previous DMC series was the real anime rip off as every single game seemed to just use very trite premises and trends that also just basically ripped off from many different franchises. Besides, Bleach sucks anyway.
Agreed.
The most we should see of him in the next game is some nods or references to him.
I would like the story to be more self contained.