What was the real reason for DMC being rebooted?

[VergilNeroDante]

Nice, i have been in love with MGS since 1 regardless what everyon esays about the series and with Raiden, oh im excited about getting it, i looked into it so far and damn i like it so far xD cant wait and honestly that too will be my DMC until the 5th comes out! Which i have faith it will indeed!

 

[VergilNeroDante]

That would be nice, at least. To create a new DMC, I mean. To explain where Nero came from - and that can be explained, I assure you. I've come up with multiple explanations for his origins. Either that or they can make a game that focuses on Sparda or Vergil. Heck, they could even create a whole new story that involves other demons - perhaps relatives of Sparda's. That would be so friggin awesome.

It would be a game created by Platinum Games. Best case scenario, that is. I loved Bayonetta and of course DMC1.

Please inform me on your idea about possible ideas on how the original could continue!! I want to hear others ideas on the matter. I want to hear ones you came up with about Vergil, defiantely Nero and possibly Sparda

 

[YamatoWielder]

Yeah, I'm absolutely serious. It's a Platinum Games/Kojima Productions coalition. Hmm... coalition might not be the right word. Well, you catch my drift

Well, I kinda liked MGR but not much as DmC. I don't treat this as a new 'Devil May Cry' but more like Vanquish with Metal Gear characters. Oh yeah, it gets the "Cyborg Ninja" vibes for me. Nothing else.

And on continuing the original story, then good luck on Capcom with that.

 

[Lionheart]

Wow, alright, here goes XD

Nero might not have his own Devil Trigger yet. As you can see in DMC4, he has a combination of his own DT and Vergil's DT floating behind him. Note the halo on the blue floating demon behind him. Vergil or Nero Angelo didn't have that, while Nero does in concept art (my avatar). You can also see that Nero was, at some point, meant to have a full Devil Trigger like Dante. I think Nero is relying on the Yamato too much, or somehow needs his own weapon like Rebellion or Yamato to awaken his powers. Rebellion seemed to awaken Dante's DT, so the same could happen with Nero. I suppose DMC5 could focus on him being injured with something and getting his DT. Maybe you'd have to battle Dante and defeat him as a sort of 'the student surpasses the master' type of story.

That, or they could show how Sparda's rebellion went and what awesome demons he must've encountered. Perhaps a cameo from Berial Naah, guess not. I would remove his monocle, I think. It just seems silly to play as a posh monocle-wearing character.

Or perhaps play as Vergil to see what he did before DMC3. Or perhaps his soul survived after he was defeated as Nero Angelo and is fighting his way through some kind of hellish place.

I don't know, there's so much to imagine. I'm really not awake enough to think of more ideas
I wrote that Nero stuff in the thread Nero's Origins. Basically, he could be an experiment created by a scientist or somebody else, by combining Dante and Vergil's blood and creating some kind of clone. That, or Sparda's blood was used to create Nero. He could also be the offspring of a family member of Sparda's, possibly making him less powerful than Dante and Vergil.

 

[Nekodark]

My take on why the new game is coming out is they wanted to do a Devil May Cry game but the ones who would have worked on it was doing another project and since they wanted to do a new game they decided on a new take on it while saving the original canon for when they have idea's and time to do one, as well as if they are going to do another DMC they wanted to bring in new people who did not give the original game the time of day or was not on their radar and maybe DmC will make them wonder what the first canon was like.

So with DmC coming out it will give them time to work on if they want to the 5th game in the series and really pinpoint where they want to go with it since I have no idea where they were going with it and would love to see what they do while can't wait to see what this game coming out has done and the story that goes along with it since I am a big fan of stories in games not just the fighting. So yeah I think this game was like a placeholder/introduction for the main series so they could work things out with the original and have a new canon to play with as well.

 

[VergilNeroDante]

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Wow, alright, here goes XD

Nero might not have his own Devil Trigger yet. As you can see in DMC4, he has a combination of his own DT and Vergil's DT floating behind him. Note the halo on the blue floating demon behind him. Vergil or Nero Angelo didn't have that, while Nero does in concept art (my avatar). You can also see that Nero was, at some point, meant to have a full Devil Trigger like Dante. I think Nero is relying on the Yamato too much, or somehow needs his own weapon like Rebellion or Yamato to awaken his powers. Rebellion seemed to awaken Dante's DT, so the same could happen with Nero. I suppose DMC5 could focus on him being injured with something and getting his DT. Maybe you'd have to battle Dante and defeat him as a sort of 'the student surpasses the master' type of story.

That, or they could show how Sparda's rebellion went and what awesome demons he must've encountered. Perhaps a cameo from Berial Naah, guess not. I would remove his monocle, I think. It just seems silly to play as a posh monocle-wearing character.

Or perhaps play as Vergil to see what he did before DMC3. Or perhaps his soul survived after he was defeated as Nero Angelo and is fighting his way through some kind of hellish place.

I don't know, there's so much to imagine. I'm really not awake enough to think of more ideas
I wrote that Nero stuff in the thread Nero's Origins.

I like what i saw so far so i think whenever i can i will throw in my ideas as well, very simialr to your indeed lol

 

[Chancey289]

Nice, i have been in love with MGS since 1 regardless what everyon esays about the series and with Raiden, oh im excited about getting it, i looked into it so far and damn i like it so far xD cant wait and honestly that too will be my DMC until the 5th comes out! Which i have faith it will indeed!

No, Metal Gear Rising is a retarded idea and Kojima is hardly involved in that because he's working on the real Metal Gear games. Raiden is NOT the Cyborg Ninja, Gray Fox is period. I saw like 30 mins of gameplay for it and Rising drifts further from the Metal Gear roots than DmC does. I'm possibly a bigger Metal Gear fan and I fell in love with Metal Gear for Metal Gear reasons not for being a DMC rip off. You can tell all the silly bullshit that DMC has is invading my MGS and that's NOT what made Metal Gear! MG Rising I'm just going to let pass as I'm waiting for Ground Zeroes and whatever this Phantom Pain is. I don't care if the developers of DMC are making it because they aren't the people I want to touch Metal Gear. When I think Metal Gear I don't think about DMC so I would never want them to co exist. Plus an addition of dreaded quick time events, I can tell that this Rising game actually won't be the good one and I don't think you are a true Metal Gear fan. I think I know what I'm talking about when it comes to Metal Gear Solid. Been playing that **** from the very start.

 

[Lionheart]

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I like what i saw so far so i think whenever i can i will throw in my ideas as well, very simialr to your indeed lol

I do suggest reading some posts in the thread Nero's Origins. It kind of explains why I think so much more could've been done with Nero. That said, his Devil Bringer arm still doesn't make much sense to me. It seems like they just put that in to make the game more ground-breaking; to introduce a new gameplay element (snatch, and buster).

Thanks!

 

[Lionheart]

No, Metal Gear Rising is a retarded idea and Kojima is hardly involved in that because he's working on the real Metal Gear games. Raiden is NOT the Cyborg Ninja, Gray Fox is period. I saw like 30 mins of gameplay for it and Rising drifts further from the Metal Gear roots than DmC does. I'm possibly a bigger Metal Gear fan and I fell in love with Metal Gear for Metal Gear reasons not for being a DMC rip off. You can tell all the silly bullshit that DMC has is invading my MGS and that's NOT what made Metal Gear! MG Rising I'm just going to let pass as I'm waiting for Ground Zeroes and whatever this Phantom Pain is. I don't care if the developers of DMC are making it because they aren't the people I want to touch Metal Gear. When I think Metal Gear I don't think about DMC so I would never want them to co exist. Plus an addition of dreaded quick time events, I can tell that this Rising game actually won't be the good one and I don't think you are a true Metal Gear fan. I think I know what I'm talking about when it comes to Metal Gear Solid. Been playing that **** from the very start.

True, it probably has little to do with Metal Gear Solid. That said, my point, and I'm sure his point as well, is that this is what we'll be playing as a new Devil May Cry. Raiden is a cyborg now, but not necessarily a ninja, no. How can you call it a ripoff when it was meant to be like DMC? It was even created by Platinum Games. It's a hack and slash, that's what it is. No more, no less. Sure, as a hack and slash game, it looks like DMC a bit.

And relax, Metal Gear is not affected by MGR: Rising Revengeance. They're going to release MGS: Ground Zeroes, right? So what's the problem? Quick time events can be catastrophic to a game, but I haven't noticed them much in MGRR so far.

 

[Chancey289]

True, it probably has little to do with Metal Gear Solid. That said, my point, and I'm sure his point as well, is that this is what we'll be playing as a new Devil May Cry. Raiden is a cyborg now, but not necessarily a ninja, no. How can you call it a ripoff when it was meant to be like DMC? It was even created by Platinum Games. It's a hack and slash, that's what it is. No more, no less. Sure, as a hack and slash game, it looks like DMC a bit.

And relax, Metal Gear is not affected by MGR: Rising Revengeance. They're going to release MGS: Ground Zeroes, right? So what's the problem? Quick time events can be catastrophic to a game, but I haven't noticed them much in MGRR so far.

Well, I'm just going to pretend it doesn't exist because I don't play Metal Gear to play DMC. I can just play DMC. Like I said I love Metal Gear for Metal Gear reasons and I still hate Raiden. That Phantom Pain trailer gave me a nerdgasm though.

 

[DragonMaster2010]

Wow. I guess no supporter is excepted here, huh?

That's a real shame.

Well I won't waste my breath here any longer. Guess this thread is dead.

I have no reason to act in a logical manner here if no one knows how to be logical.

Goodbye, little humans.

 

[VergilNeroDante]

No, Metal Gear Rising is a retarded idea and Kojima is hardly involved in that because he's working on the real Metal Gear games. Raiden is NOT the Cyborg Ninja, Gray Fox is period. I saw like 30 mins of gameplay for it and Rising drifts further from the Metal Gear roots than DmC does. I'm possibly a bigger Metal Gear fan and I fell in love with Metal Gear for Metal Gear reasons not for being a DMC rip off. You can tell all the silly bullshit that DMC has is invading my MGS and that's NOT what made Metal Gear! MG Rising I'm just going to let pass as I'm waiting for Ground Zeroes and whatever this Phantom Pain is. I don't care if the developers of DMC are making it because they aren't the people I want to touch Metal Gear. When I think Metal Gear I don't think about DMC so I would never want them to co exist. Plus an addition of dreaded quick time events, I can tell that this Rising game actually won't be the good one and I don't think you are a true Metal Gear fan. I think I know what I'm talking about when it comes to Metal Gear Solid. Been playing that **** from the very start.

You might be a more fan than I but honestly i dont care whether you are or not, regardless MGRR wont have anything to do with the actual Metal Gear anyways, sure im looking forward to Ground Zeroes as well so either way i will get both, enjoy both and have fun with both. So until GZ comes out i will entertain myself with MGRR. And Raiden wasnt that bad of a character.

 

[Lionheart]

It's a bit of a shame that some people can't think without getting emotional about it. That comment before that of VergilNeroDante made me laugh. To respond to that comment, I'd say there is room for DmC supporters. Why not? This thread is called What was the real reason for DMC being rebooted? It's a simple question, and everybody can respond if they like.

Also, it's 'accepted', not 'excepted'.

No need to feel intimidated by people who are not 'pro DmC' like me.

 

[Nelo The Great]

Man, i dream of one day creating an external studio that makes reboots of series that had potential, like various capcom titles, but was executed very poorly, like various capcom titles

 

[VergilNeroDante]

Well thats not a bad idea honestly, anything could be redone into something better, you just need to apply the right elements at the right time to grasp the player to have them at the edge of their seat wanting more.

 

[V's patron]

I dont think there is a bigger reason for the reboot other than they wanted to experiment and draw in a bigger audience.

The emphasis on "westernization" was probably from keiji Inafune who was into western gaming or them reacting to fan complaints of 4 because a lot of people thought it was too anime-ish or Final Fantasy-esque.

i feel the second is a cop-out of sorts, them passing the blame onto something else rather than acknowledging that they made a mistake. DMC4 was a poorly told story regardless of its anime influences.

 

[VergilNeroDante]

Well they could have done better yes, but they chose not to explain anything, but i still enjoyed the game. What if, in the next installment they made it where Nero could pull enemies towards him and pull himself to them (wouldnt matter which enemies it was except bosses) kind of like wht this new Donte is able to do, if they really need to make Nero aerial based in combat with some ground basics and leaving Dante ground based with some aerial, Vergil possibly both.

 

[Loopy]

I don't think Japan is bothered enough to consider DmC to be a fu-k you. It's only a game, and Japan is about a lot more than video games and pop culture.

While it is true that Japan does prefer their own product over foreign ones, they are open to embracing Western ideas and adapting them to suit their own culture.They realise that to keep up with the rest of the world, they need to open up and not be insular.

As for Western titles, it's not like the west relies on Japan to keep sales of their games up. They're a small island nation. There are plenty of sales in US and Europe to support Western games.

As far as the DMC brand is concerned, I guess Capcom felt it was as far as they could go.They wanted NT to take charge of design and creativity. Capcom was not forced to do this, and they helped NT with combat mechanics.

With DMC4, the graphics were excellent, the action direction was also excellent, but it fell short with the plot and shoving Nero in with hardly any explaining, plus shoving Dante to the side. DMC has always been about Dante.

But I am hoping DMC and DmC can continue.

If i wanted realism i'd be watching television.

What is realistic about a human and demon hybrid killing demons?

 

[VergilNeroDante]

Well with hope, i can at least believe the original DMC will return with something amazing, though some state that its never going to happen, but i havent read anywhere were Capcom stated that they are not creating anymore DMC games because they cant come up with anything. So until then i have the greatest of faiths that DMC 5 will come out in the near future.

 

[Loopy]

There hasn't been any official statement saying DMC will be gone, not yet anyway.

I have a feeling that once NT are done with DmC, Capcom will drop them.I don't mean this in a nast way, btw. ^_^

Reason for thinking this is that Capcom felt that their weak aspect was telling a story and doing it in a Western way, with that sort of visuals and style. Now that they have worked with NT and learned how to do it, then Capcom could carry on either DMC or DmC using what they learned from NT.