I'm afraid that we can't make this discussion on this topic, but some things you pointed out are just misleadings or incosistent by what i've seeing you saying on this forum, that have already been discussed before. I just would like to point out where are these misleadings and inconsistences are:
I'm a Devil May Cry fan. Why do people want to establish some line of separation. You guys seriously think this is some civil war or something. This is retarded. Yea, I like DmC but, I also like the original series. I don't know how many times I've said I still love the very first Devil May Cry more than any of them.
You've pointed to the
DMC fanbase to begin with, Chancey. And it's true that you say that you love the first the game, but you're one of the people that already said that the old series is better buried in his own grave than receiving new titles, kinda contradictory a fan wanting to a series he says he love dying for the sake of one that has nothing to do with the old one (i'll explain why DmC being sucessful and DMC still living is nothing likely to happen).
DmC is STILL a Devil May Cry game and I never viewed as some replacement. After all, they've clarified so many times the original series isn't gone forever. Maybe you missed that.
Nope, it's not. It's a different world, totally different characters, plot and even downgraded gameplay. And you really think that Capcom would run two Devil May Cry series seeing how expensive it is to make a game nowadays? You're just playing dumb or trying to do some sort of damage control? If DmC was a sucess, DMC would not have a high probability to see the light of the day anymore and it's clear for everyone that knows just a little about the business world and videogame industry, make two different franchises runs is very different than make separated storylines for cartoons, they're not that expensive. Capcom knows this very well and they just said this to calm down the fans they've ****ed with the decision to reboot this so differently from the original.
I can see the intention behind a more contemporary Devil May Cry and one that isn't trying to be that generic anime anymore and take it for what it is. And I've just grown use to DMC changing. No Devil May Cry has never been a true sequel or prequel to the first game that started it all and it's always just been a mixed bag. This is why I don't want to accept DMC 3 (even though I still enjoy playing it) It contradicts the entire established canon up until that point in favor of a really annoying generic anime look and totally losing the spirit of that first game and overall doesn't make any sense.
1 - No one asked for a more contemporary Devil May Cry, and you say a lot about that "generic anime" thing but never really explained what makes it looks like this and why it could be a bad thing. And that complaint of your seems inconsistent, as DMC1 Dante is your favorite Dante and he has that "anime" thing going on too: he's "overpowered", has long white hair, gigantic swords, demon forms, he even fights with Mundus flying all over around and shooting demonic energy and even a kinda of a "dragon" made of demonic power on him. If you don't like Devil May Cry for his "anime-ish" setting, you're basically saying that you don't like the old series at all. And the canon thing: it's just a matter of fixing it, no big issue here, the only game that seriously broke things up were DMC4.
2 - Devil May Cry world never changed so abruptly since DmC, obviously it has taken a different path from the first one but on that we agree. But DMC build his own personality with the first 3 games, DMC started with ideas to do a Resident Evil game and got changed to the point of being the first DMC, it needed to build more of a unique thing as a game and it was reached with DMC3, even if you didn't like the direction it have taken, it's STILL Devil May Cry, it's still Dante and his same world and basicaly the same foundations of the series was there (the idea of Dante as a character, similar but strongly upgraded gameplay, an attempt to explain Dante's past, presentation of his brother and their story), they've just developed it more (Dante was already a cocky and joking character in the very first DMC, in the very first cutscene he pretends that is nearly dying with Trish's attacks to him, then he just gets up with a sword impaling his chest like nothing had happened).
And I never focused on anyone particularly here. But there is no denying the DMC fanbase has now pretty much gone up there in the fandumb right next to Sonic fans. So yea, I'm going to talk some sh!t about them because this ongoing reaction to just an experimental reboot is WAY over dramatic and also sure as hell is not as bad as some people want to make it out to be.
I know that you not aimed any particulary member on this forum, but indirectly you've talked about "the majority" of the DMC fans who don't accept DmC. If you see complaining because they're trying to kill one of your favorite franchises (without even trying to make an ending for it) for the sake of a new series as fandumb, i don't know what is liking something anymore, seriously. The same way DmC fans don't want to see DmC dying because of the market failure (neither i want, i would like to see Capcom at least finishing what they've started if they plan to continue with DMC or kill the franchise once and for all), we do not want to see DMC die because of Capcom's greed and lack of respect to their fans. Capcom would not run two hack'n'slash franchises, they're not that profitable (in the businessmans views), if they had launched a new IP out of DmC ideas all that "civil war" would not be happening by the time, although i can't say if the reception on the market would be better or worse without the "Devil May Cry" name being used.
There's not a single person I've seen give a logical reason why something like DMC 4 is considered better. And it's so weird why so many people have a change of heart about that game. Everyone hated it, what happened? The game didn't magically get better. It still sucks. DmC is one of the better games in the series. Not my favorite but a game that shines in its own right that does also surpass the originals in some aspects and an encouraging building block to take the series from here on out regardless of which version would return. Quit acting like DmC did nothing right. That's complete bs.[/
I would say that they're nearly tied up, but i think this too is a discussion to be made (it was already made before, but whatever) in another topic, and i don't have played DMC4 for a long time until now, i've just rushed through the game (played on my friend's X360) so i'm not the best person to make this comparison. But i know by seeing things that DMC4 mechanics and design (even made by half because of Capcom rushing the team) is way better and balanced than DmC's one, and DmC itself has a much more consistent (but not that great too) story, but it's a simplistic answer that means nothing if i can't argue too long here and show some content to reinforce what i'm saying, we need another topic to discuss this if you're willing to discuss. I would digress, but if you want some answers and clarifications i'm here for this.