Venom Teaser trailer

[ROCKMAN X]

Peter was never an outright jerk to Brock ever (it sounds like you don't really know the actual context at all really).

I was talking about every other media besides comic books. Peter has been a jerk to him in the 90's cartoon and the movie.

a chain reaction of terrible events to his wife leaving him, to his father disowning him and him being fired

So he basically blames all of his life's problems on Peter. What a great character, talk about being petty. So what do we have here? a roid rage manbaby who irrationally projects all his hatred towards the main character of the show, reminds me of a certain green haired DBZ character. But i can't quite put my finger on it...

motives did Carnage have besides being the joker with super powers?

Well, its a psychopath with Superpowers, its pretty entertaining to watch someone like that. Eddie brock is just loser who stalks spiderman like an obsessive ex, he's just a pathetic character. There's nothing likable or interesting about him whatsoever.

The reason why Venom is more popular is mainly due to him being a decently developed character

He's about as developed as Broly, who coincidentally is also getting a new movie.

 

[DarkSlayerVergil]

So he basically blames all of his life's problems on Peter. What a great character, talk about being petty. So what do we have here? a roid rage manbaby who irrationally projects all his hatred towards the main character of the show, reminds me of a certain green haired DBZ character. But i can't quite put my finger on it...

Or A guy who got dealt a horrible hand in life and channelled towards what he saw as the reason for it. No one said it was his anger was sensible, why do you think I said it was misguided.

Well, its a psychopath with Superpowers, its pretty entertaining to watch someone like that. Eddie brock is just loser who stalks spiderman like an obsessive ex, he's just a pathetic character. There's nothing likable or interesting about him whatsoever.

A psychopath with super powers can be entertaining but Carnage that's all he has and by your logic Broly is super entertaining considering he's a saiyan with a psychotic personality. Theirs nothing likable or interesting about Carnage really, Venom himself actually is a character unlike Carnage who's nothing but a knockoff Joker.

He's about as developed as Broly, who coincidentally is also getting a new movie.

Considering all the focus that Eddie has gotten that's a tremendous compliment towards Broly. Also you know who the real loser is?

 

[ROCKMAN X]

Or A guy who got dealt a horrible hand in life

This is the textbook cliched&tired "Life dealt me a **** hand, i guess i'll destroy earth!" excuse, this is so overdone in fiction. Its just a crap excuse given to an otherwise 1 dimensional character as an excuse for their villany.

You can't make me like characters who's motivations are not only "misguided"(being generous here) but also absolutely stupid. I'll give some props to Spiderman 3 which showed that Peter was directly involved with eddie brock's life so it makes more sense for him to confront peter. But no one likes that version of venom so who cares...

Broly is super entertaining considering he's a saiyan with a psychotic personality

Actually, broly doesn't have a personality and he has like 10 lines of dialogue in all 3 of his movies. People like broly&venom for only one thing, they look COOL&Intimidating. Many honest Spiderman&DBZ fans admit that and some like you pretend there's some depth to them when in reality, there isn't any. Venom&Broly are just roided out freaks who hate the main character of the show because the writers are TOO lazy to actually come up with legitimate reasons for the conflict. That's pretty much it.

 

[Erian1Mortal]

This is the textbook cliched&tired "Life dealt me a **** hand, i guess i'll destroy earth!" excuse, this is so overdone in fiction. Its just a crap excuse given to an otherwise 1 dimensional character as an excuse for their villany.

You can't make me like characters who's motivations are not only "misguided"(being generous here) but also absolutely stupid. I'll give some props to Spiderman 3 which showed that Peter was directly involved with eddie brock's life so it makes more sense for him to confront peter. But no one likes that version of venom so who cares...
Actually, broly doesn't have a personality and he has like 10 lines of dialogue in all 3 of his movies. People like broly&venom for only one thing, they look COOL&Intimidating. Many honest Spiderman&DBZ fans admit that and some like you pretend there's some depth to them when in reality, there isn't any. Venom&Broly are just roided out freaks who hate the main character of the show because the writers are TOO lazy to actually come up with legitimate reasons for the conflict. That's pretty much it.

I guess you haven't read any comics of Venom then... Eddie, while not my favorite Venom, has a lot more going for him then Broly. He hasn't hated Spiderman in like 10 years now, they buried their hatched when he became Anti-Venom and as far as I'm aware that hasn't changed even though he is Venom again. The character actually evolved beyond what you describe him.

 

[DarkSlayerVergil]

This is the textbook cliched&tired "Life dealt me a **** hand, i guess i'll destroy earth!" excuse, this is so overdone in fiction. Its just a crap excuse given to an otherwise 1 dimensional character as an excuse for their villany.

Everything's overdone it fiction at this point, you need to try a little harder than that Rock.

You can't make me like characters who's motivations are not only "misguided"(being generous here) but also absolutely stupid. I'll give some props to Spiderman 3 which showed that Peter was directly involved with eddie brock's life so it makes more sense for him to confront peter. But no one likes that version of venom so who cares...

I could care less if you like the character, I just don't like misinformation being spread is all. Also Eddie from SM3 is the last version you wanna use considering that version of Eddie got what he deserved for incriminating Spidey with fake photos. It's nice to know that you find characters that ask god to kill people for crap they got rightfully exposed for interesting.

Actually, broly doesn't have a personality and he has like 10 lines of dialogue in all 3 of his movies. People like broly&venom for only one thing, they look COOL&Intimidating. Many honest Spiderman&DBZ fans admit that and some like you pretend there's some depth to them when in reality, there isn't any.

Actually Broly does have a personality, as evident in M8 he has a twisted since of humor and considering that for the first half of the movie he was restrained into a docile state by his father it isn't really fair to use that. 2nd coming and Bio Broly aren't really relevant considering Broly is M10 is completely insane and Bio Broly wasn't even the original Broly.

Venom&Broly are just roided out freaks who hate the main character of the show because the writers are TOO lazy to actually come up with legitimate reasons for the conflict. That's pretty much it.

Broly was stabbed and left on a dying planet as a infant with Gokus crying being the last thing he heard before that traumatic event resulting in PTSD with Goku as the trigger. I know you're probably gonna say something like "That's just your head-canon" to which I bring up that most fans already believe that Broly hates Goku for upsetting him with his crying when they were babies so I see no reason why we couldn't simply add on the part about him being almost killed as an infant since it actually happened in the movie (something a lot of fans seems to conviently forget). Hell even in the first movie when Broly and Goku clash and Goku punches Broly in his abdomen, the same place where he was stabbed all those years ago Broly was instantly reminded of Gokus crying as the thing he remembers before being murdered.

@Erian1Mortal He already admitted that he rarely reads comics.

 

[AgentRedgrave]

So this movie's pg-13 now. Sad to say, I am no longer excited for this movie.

 

[Dark Drakan]

So this movie's pg-13 now. Sad to say, I am no longer excited for this movie.

I was reading about this yesterday and apparently Sony are pushing for this, some other sources claim Sony arent confident enough in the mass appeal of Venom as a character for some reason. So they want to open up the possibility of more ticket sales to a wider audience.

 

[Carlos]

I was reading about this yesterday and apparently Sony are pushing for this, some other sources claim Sony arent confident enough in the mass appeal of Venom as a character for some reason. So they want to open up the possibility of more ticket sales to a wider audience.

In this case, Sony's the dumb one. Venom is one of the most menacing villains of all time. Next to, of course... Carnage. (Or the other symboites).

This film could've just followed the Deadpool vibe in that it's rated R, and whatnot. However, I do understand the marketing standpoint with Venom. I don't necessarily like it, but eh, it is what it is. I understand where they're going with it.

But Venom is one of the most iconic villains of all time.

I'm sure, that if more people know that this was going to be rated R, fans will hit Sony with backlash at some point. People are going to go into Venom and be open minded, because they know "Venom," but the second that they realize some inconsistencies - I guarantee a backlash.

 

[Demi-fiend]

Hey Sony...

... I think I found a solution to your copyright problem. XD

 

[RedNether]

New clip from the movie.

 

[Erian1Mortal]

This movie died with it's age rating for me...
I believe we were advertised something that might get an M rating at the beginning... and now we got a rating of FSK12, wich either means they heavily cut the movie down or marketing was crappy. Really hurts to say this, but I'll have to wait for it to come to DVD.

 

[Morgan]

Watched the movie. Better than I was expecting it to be, even with its rating and no Spider-Man in it.

It's actually pretty funny the sort-of 'thing' that exists with wanting studios to take risks with stuff because people don't want to see the "same old thing" but then how quickly people swear off watching something when not adhering to the source material in the way they like. "Durr, how will a Venom movie work without the Spider-Man origin?" *Ideally* if the writing is worth a damn and there's actual talent behind it, they'll figure something out, same way Marvel hired a former drug addict to play a B-list hero after they sold the rights to their more marketable titles and ended up with a decade-plus franchise somehow. How was that logically supposed to work out? Who knows? It did anyway.

Point is the movie was better without having Eddie OR Venom revolve their whole existence on what Peter or Spider-Man did to them, unlike the mess that happened in Spider-Man 3.

 

[DragonMaster2010]

This movie died with it's age rating for me...
I believe we were advertised something that might get an M rating at the beginning... and now we got a rating of FSK12, wich either means they heavily cut the movie down or marketing was crappy. Really hurts to say this, but I'll have to wait for it to come to DVD.

I blame that on the fact that there was a chance that this movie could take place in the MCU, which is why its rating was lowered to PG-13.

 

[Morgan]

I blame that on the fact that there was a chance that this movie could take place in the MCU, which is why its rating was lowered to PG-13.

Not sure I buy that one.

1. A hard R limits the audience that can come to see the film on their own, and a PG-13 rating caters to the underage fan. IMO it'd be the height of arrogance for Sony to make a hard-R film as if they were going to put out their own Deadpool or a Logan. I don't think they'd have made good use of it outside of catering to super edgy people that think maturity means sex and blood and not actual other content or think the material needs to "grow up with them" when it's not about them.

2. The arbitrary standards of the MPAA concerning what gets a rating just makes it that Venom doesn't have any "gratuitous" violence and brighty-colored blood in it, nor lingering shots of dismembered corpses, but the idea of violence happening still sticks around. Like: The Dark Knight was PG-13, and the audience still understood perfectly that the opening scene involved clown-faced dudes getting blasted with guns, or that the Joker shoved a pencil into a dude's eye, and some trucks and things (and Rachel) got blown up. Harvey burnt half to death on screen and they showed his skinless burnt face later in the movie. A PG-13 isn't exactly sunshine and rainbows.

3. The comics that everyone loves Venom in still adhered to the Comics Code for as long as that thing lasted (and he debuted while it was in effect IIRC) meaning the source material was still good to put out to kids and the artists had to find creative ways around showing what they needed to and also getting the issues on shelves. The director of this just had to do the same thing with their budget: do a bunch of takes of symbiotes doing symbiote stuff and find the right one that gets the point across while still being watchable to the undeniable contingent of teens that pick up comics and whose parents are shelling out the cash for. The cartoons and the PlayStation games with Venom in them had to do this too.

They could go fo hard-R worthy content if they wanted to ever make a stand-alone Carnage movie because murder is what *that* guy is all about.

Or I dunno, just show a woman pleasuring herself in the next Venom or one of the minor characters is gay. The MPAA does have its ridiculous double standards.

 

[DragonMaster2010]

Not sure I buy that one.

1. A hard R limits the audience that can come to see the film on their own, and a PG-13 rating caters to the underage fan. IMO it'd be the height of arrogance for Sony to make a hard-R film as if they were going to put out their own Deadpool or a Logan. I don't think they'd have made good use of it outside of catering to super edgy people that think maturity means sex and blood and not actual other content or think the material needs to "grow up with them" when it's not about them.

2. The arbitrary standards of the MPAA concerning what gets a rating just makes it that Venom doesn't have any "gratuitous" violence and brighty-colored blood in it, nor lingering shots of dismembered corpses, but the idea of violence happening still sticks around. Like: The Dark Knight was PG-13, and the audience still understood perfectly that the opening scene involved clown-faced dudes getting blasted with guns, or that the Joker shoved a pencil into a dude's eye, and some trucks and things (and Rachel) got blown up. Harvey burnt half to death on screen and they showed his skinless burnt face later in the movie. A PG-13 isn't exactly sunshine and rainbows.

3. The comics that everyone loves Venom in still adhered to the Comics Code for as long as that thing lasted (and he debuted while it was in effect IIRC) meaning the source material was still good to put out to kids and the artists had to find creative ways around showing what they needed to and also getting the issues on shelves. The director of this just had to do the same thing with their budget: do a bunch of takes of symbiotes doing symbiote stuff and find the right one that gets the point across while still being watchable to the undeniable contingent of teens that pick up comics and whose parents are shelling out the cash for. The cartoons and the PlayStation games with Venom in them had to do this too.

They could go fo hard-R worthy content if they wanted to ever make a stand-alone Carnage movie because murder is what *that* guy is all about.

Or I dunno, just show a woman pleasuring herself in the next Venom or one of the minor characters is gay. The MPAA does have its ridiculous double standards.

For the most part, I say the MCU because that was always in the talks with Sony and the MCU. If Venom did well then they'd bring him into the MCU but now who knows if that'll still hold true.

 

[Demi-fiend]

I do not see a bright future for this universe...

 

[ROCKMAN X]

I do not see a bright future for this universe...

Some may say... it may be as dark as the DARK Universe's future!

Seriously though, all these hopeless attempts to build a new MCU is a TrainWreck. Though i'm glad this movie exists, Venom memes are the best like a rotten tomato in the wind.

 

[Dark Drakan]

Critics might be slating it but it hasn’t done too badly in regards to sales so far...

Venom Breaks October Record With $10 Million Preview Night

Venom has earned the record for the highest grossing film in North America during an October film preview window with a $10 million preview night on Thursday. The previous October preview record was set by Paranormal Activity 3 at $8 million in 2011.

As reported by Variety, Venom is expected to earn upwards of $70 million by the end of its opening weekend, which would put it above the current opening weekend gross for an October film set by Alfonso Cuaron’s Gravity when it earned $55.8 million in 2013.​

 

[Foxtrot94]

Critics might be slating it but it hasn’t done too badly in regards to sales so far...

Sales are not indicative of quality. It's true for films just as much as videogames.

 

[LordOfDarkness]

Usually critic ratings and sales are what determines if something is a flop or not. In the outcome of having made a ‘bad’ movie in the eyes of critical reception, I’d still rather make at least my money back on the movie’s budget and then some. These people are definitely in the business for money making, not kind words. Although don’t get me wrong, those do help and that’s all well and good. But they definitely want to make a profit moreover be concerned if everyone loved the movie.