my dmc 5 idea ( yes another dmc5 idea thread)

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you seem to be confused about two things.

1. at this point credo is a low ranking solder so he is not in charge.
2. ziz is younger than vergil. he is just wise beyond his years ( and yet somehow still childish) dispite his fighting skill and great knowlege he is barely older than you

( i mention both of those things before but i also mentoned alot of other things around the same time so it's understandible that you missed them.)

i should be able to correct those errors without any major changes to the mission.



Vergil walks back into the meeting room with Credo, Ziz, Nero, Kyrie, and Beryl. Ziz is laughing hysterically, while Credo regards him coldly.

C: You destroyed that clock tower. Why?
V: To be perfectly fair, I didn't. The walking jewelry store I defeated did.
C: What?
V: Yeah. Some blue crystal being. He blew himself up. Not my fault.

Ziz stands up, clapping.

Z: Bravo! That was some grade-A entertainment! Maybe even better than my anime collection...

Several soldiers run into the room, knocking Vergil out of the way. Credo walked up to the commander and took a passing glance at Vergil.

Leon: We've detected something in the mines, . It seems to be trying to open a gate of some kind. The place is heavily guarded. I need as many solders as i can get.so far no one has been able to get inside. It's as if the place is sealed to humans.
C: Commander, i know someone that can help.
Credo walks over to Vergil.

C: i hate the idea of asking for your help. but it appears that i will need it.
V: Don't we need that wannabe pope's permission?
L: his holieness dosn't concern himself with mundane miltary matters. i have enought athority to approve this.

The scene changes to a briefing room. There is a map of the mines, along with a crude second map of the catacombs beneath it. There was a large red cross on the second map.

L: This is the mine's entrance. It's also where most of the demons are. This is where my men will distract the demons so that you and I can get inside.

Vergil stands up.

V: Wait, you never told me I had to work with you.
L: I think you'll find me an able swordsman. I've taken on demons far more powerful than you, and, as you can tell by my standing here, won those battles.
V: Feh. Let's hope your bark is smaller than your bite.
L: Now, this cross here. This is the gate that a large, armored, humanoid demon is trying to open. We've named him "Shadow Gear".
V: What an original name...
L: Oh, shut up, you brat. Why don't you learn some discipline? Didn't your mother and father raise you better?

Vergil gets up and punches Leon.

V: You don't EVER mention my parents. EVER.

Vergil turns to the other soldiers.

V: Well? What are you all standing around for? GET GOING!

The soldiers frantically scramble out of the room, terrified.


Z: wow, i couldn't even get any of those guys to laught at my jokes.
V: thats because you aren't funny
Z: kyrie likes my jokes.
V: so, your sense of humor is the same as a 9 year old.
B: are you two going to just sit there all day
V: im not exactly enthusiastic about this idea.
Do it for Duke, alright?
V: Who?
B: That Blitz who sacrificed himself for you. Do it for him, if you won't do it for us.
V: Ugh... Fine.
Devil May Cry ZERO 3
Mission 9: Darkness
Survive the abyss and be reborn.

Note: Leon, Ziz, and Beryl are all your allies for this mission.

Vergil, Leon, Ziz, Beryl, and the army of soldiers are hiding in the nearby forest. The mine's entrance waits like an angry maw, waiting to swallow up those foolish enough to enter. Hundreds of Blades, Hunters and Assaults guard the doorway, along with something that appeared to be controlling the rest. It was much larger, but retained the same basic shape. However, it could control the wind, as evidenced by it's brutal execution of a soldier who'd failed his task. He was shredded by a sudden gust of wind.

V: That's... Pleasant.
L: We should avoid him, if possible.
Z: you guys are no fun.
B: just take a nap or something until it leaves,
Z: ( laughs) fine we'll do it your way. at least until i get bored

They wait until the greater demon leaves into the mines. Leon stands up and holds his sword forward.

L: CHARGE! All of you, head for the entrance! Protect the escorts!

All the soldiers run for the entrance. Time for gameplay...
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Mine Outer Wall

You are surrounded by Blades, Hunters and Assaults. However, you also have three allies. Leon, Ziz, and Beryl. Keep fighting until a cutscene plays.
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L: We can't fight here! Push forward!

Vergil and his army push ever forward, slicing through demons until they get inside the mine and close the door.

V: That was close. From now on, let's not do something so reckless.
Z: no i think we should do that again
( beryl just sighs)
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Mine Entrance

Not much to see here. Simply move forward to meet a new enemy.

NEW ENEMY
Fallen Knight
Angelic warriors who fell from grace. They attack with wicked sickle and sword swipes.

After three are destroyed, the door opens.

Refinery

CUTSCENE

The larger demon from before is frantically searching for something. It thrashes about, ripping machinery from their mounts and throwing them.

V: Hey, don't you know that's public property?

The demon turns to face the foursome.

D: Who are you?

It's voice, despite it's well muscled form, is female.
Z: hey, big musculer demon you guys were scared of is a girl... definitly not my type.
( eveyone ignores ziz)
V: I'm here to seal off the gate in these mines. Now, why don't you step aside so we can get through.

N: Never. I, the great Nethus of Air, will not let you pass.
The gang gets ready for a fight.

All: Have it your way.

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BOSS BATTLE
Nethus, demoness of Air
She has two health bars, and she's no pushover, even with four members fighting at once. She can command gusts of air, along with formidable claw combos. After a fierce fight, she'll fall.
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CUTSCENE

Nethus kneels defeated. Without a word, she screams as her powers begin to rip her apart. When her body is nothing but scraps of flesh on the floor, her soul turns into a sword. Vergil grabs the sword as one word flashes into his mind.

"...Windcutter..."

V: Nice. A new toy.
Z: hey, how come you get to have it.
B: can you even carry more weapons,
Z: ?
L: This is no time to be playing around.
V: Shut up.
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Refinery

Back into gameplay, there is a door in front of you with an inscription.

"This door shall never fall to your blade, warrior. Only the swiftest strike can destroy it."

Cut the door down with your new sword and proceed onward.

Mine Shaft

The door will seal itself, and more demons will appear.

5 Hunters
3 Fallen Knights

After they fall, you can proceed down the elevator into the catacombs section of the mines.

Catacombs Entrance

NEW ENEMY
Zombie

Not even human corpses are free of possession, it seems. These zombies are smart enough to use weapons, and will attack with swords, knives, and even old muskets. Still, they shouldn't be much trouble. Kill the seven that appear to unlock the door.

Catacombs Tomb

The door will seal as soon as you enter the room. Thirty zombies will attack you, but with your allies, you should make short work of them. The door will unseal, but you must destroy it with Windcutter.
 
Catacombs Depths

This is where Shadow Gear lurks around the gate. Take a few steps forward for a cutscene.

CUTSCENE

Shadow Gear paces around the gate, obviously frustrated.

SG: Damn it... I need only one more piece to open this gate, but I'll never find it. Where will I find the blood of Sparda.

Vergil coughs defiantly.

V: Ahem... Right here, big, tall, and not-so-scary.

SG: Ah... Just in time. I can smell Sparda's blood on you.
Z: do you even have a nose.
V: ( once again ignoring ziz)You're going to be smelling more blood than just Sparda's when I'm done with you.

SG: On the contrary... ( a sword and sheald appear in his hands) You shall be the one who's blood will be spilled.
Z: hello am i talking to a bunch of deaf people here.
B: try to foucus on the demon standing right there.
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BOSS BATTLE
Shadow Gear
( dread you actually already created this boss a whle ago but your new desctiption is nothin like your first one, i decided to go with the original description)


Dark Knight of Emptiness: Shadow Gear

Shadow Gear is a humanoid demon, about as tall as Vergil (maybe a bit taller.). His signature armor is made of numerous "trophies" that he's taken from defeated opponents. He uses a large sword that is made of numerous sections, meaning it can be both a bladed whip and a long, thick sword. His shield can also turn into an automatic rifle. . His attacks are easy to predict, as he will talk before each one. His voice is deep and menacing,

"Fall into despair!" SG will throw you to the ground.

"Suffer!" Energy balls made of nothingness. They slightly home in.

"Can you still fight after THIS?!" A long combo that (if every slash and shot connects) can take out almost half of your health bar, if you didn't pick up any blue orbs, that is.

"Why do you continue on the path of darkness?" Energy balls made of both darkness and light. If they're shot down, they relinquish White Orbs.

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CUTSCENE

SG: Why did I lose...? Am I too weak...?
V: Pretty much, yeah.
SG: Don't mock me, half-breed. I will return later, when my strength has been restored.
Z; you know you will probably just lose again even if im not here to help out.
(Shadow Gear leaves through a portal of darkness.)
V: Damn... I think that's not the last we'll see of him.
Z: i hope he shows up again that guy was fun.

He turns towards the group.

V: Leon, I think you should have the honor of destroying the gate.
L: With pleasure.
Z; hey wait a minute when did vergil suddenly become in charge.
L: i think he's earned the right to act that way just this once.

Leon runs up and destroys the gate with a flurry of swift strikes.

L: Too easy.
Z: show off.
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MISSION CLEAR

( the biggest mistake you made was forgeting that ziz has a tendency to annoy people just for fun this version includes alot more lines from ziz )
 
Well, that's why I gave it to you, so you can edit it. Why else would I have posted it?

Also, I totally forgot that I'd created Shadow Gear already... Whoops!
 
i was actually trying to think one last weapon for vergil. but you suddenly created one so i think vergil has enough devil arms now. i've already planned the all the sommoned sword for both zero3 and 5 so i don't need any more weapons for vergil. ( a few suggestion for the windcutter's moveset whould help ) i think i should be able to fill in all of ziz's DAs as well. so all i need are a few more guns for ziz and i am done. with weapons for dmczero3. ( well, i should probalby uprade rebellions moveset since its the only DA useable for dante's missions.)

i am considering incorpeating some of the ideas for alternate controls that have been proposed in other threads.( i will have to go back and modify style movesets if i do) im also considering using the DT hearts from 2.
 
Okay, the DT hearts idea would be a good addition. Would give more room for achievements.

I got your message. What ideas would you like? General gameplay ideas or enemies, missions... What do you need ideas for?
 
i mostly need your opinon on what things it whould be good to add or change. i could use some input on alternate controls. and of course if you have any other general gameplay ideas please tell me.

the things i need at the moment are

1. a few ideas for a moveset for windcutter ( you made it up so you should contribte to the moves)
2. mission 10 ( i know what to do for the story but i have no clue what to do for the actual misson.)
 
Windcutter Moveset

AAAAA: A fast five hit combo.
AA, then A: Two slashes and a quick stab.
AAAA, then AA: Four slashes, an upward slash and then a downward slash.
Down + A: Spins Windcutter around Vergil's waist.
Up + A: Vergil slams the enemy into the air with a strike so quick, not even he can see it.

Aerial Moves
AAA: Three quick slashes.
A, then AA: A slash followed by a downward slam, then another downward slam.
Down + A: Vergil slices twice, then throws Windcutter like a boomerang.
Up + A: Vergil throws the enemy higher with an upward cut.

Can you do the Swordmaster moves?

An idea for Mission 10. What about following Shadow Gear to kill him, once and for all? You have to follow him into the imperial crypt of Fortuna.
 
well it whould probably be a palpal( relating to popes) crypt not an imperal one. since the order is religious and dosen't have royalty. but otherwise a good concept

altering the controls whould alter how swordmaster is used so i think those details should be worked out before anything else relating to weapons or gameplay.

here is my idea ( ps3 controls)

vergil control scheme

jump /\
devil arm attack X
gun attack []
swordmaster/darkslayer O ( use R2 to switch between the two)
quicksilver L2
devil trigger L1
lock on R1
trickster - right analog stick and R3
switch weapon- d pad

(i will add more details later )

do you have any suggestions,comments, questions, insults, rants,random thoughts etc.
 
That would make combat quite fast paced, but would it be accessible to most players? I mean, I don't know... I wouldn't care, but others might.
 
its not as complicated as it looks. with practace it whould be very effective. it whould allow players to truly fight like the charcter they are playing. this whouldnt be that hard. . you could play the same way as the other games by just using swordmaster and ignoring the other styles.

switching between swordmaster and darkslayer isn't too difficlut.
using quicksilver with L2 whouldn't really complicate anything at all.
getting used to using the right analong stick for trickster whould only take a little effort.
by the end of mission 1 everyone whould be able to handle it.
 
The more I look at it, the less complicated it seems. Any chance you took this idea from SuperDante? Not like it matters, though. He hasn't been on in ages.
 
i didn't take this particuler control scheme from anyone however it was inspiered by a similer control scheme in a thread that may have been done by SuperDante. i don't really remember.

i figured out how to make styles on the right analog stick work like normal.

S = R3
S+ a direction = that direction on the right analog stick.

i also decided a few details about eqipping weapons.

you can carry up to six weapons of each type( devil arm and gun) with you ( in dmc 5 each charicter will have a total of 8, change witch weapons are left behing at the statues of time or before missions)

3 eqipped weapons ( each type) -
1 active
2 inactive

3 reserve weapons ( each type)

the eqiped weapons can be changed at any time in the pause menu.

the active weapon can be changed using the d-pad.

weapon 1- equipped whenever you change the equipped weapons. after you select another weapon hit that button again to switch to weapon 1

weapon 2- select DA 2 with right select gun 2 with up
weapon 3- select DA 3 with left select gun 3 with down.
 
That would work really well. I didn't like in DMC3 that you could only keep two melee weapons and two guns at any time. Made me feel limited...
 
so are there any other gameplay features we need to work out ( if yes tell me your idea on the subject. if no just start on the next mission idea. ) i'll try to think of a decent list of DT hearts and start having vergil get them soon. ( i may edit previous missions to add them)
 
I think that clicking R3 or L3 should be used for Royal Guard. I don't know which of them is used for Trickster, but if Trickster uses one, Royal Guard should use the other.
 
that whoudn't work because royal guard's advanced moves reqire directional input. and L3 is the left analog stick whitch controls movement. royal guard will have to be on a normal button.
 
No, what I meant was that you hold it down, then you can move normally after you finish holding it. That way, you can still use directional specific moves.
 
lets worry about this when i get to a charicer that uses royal guard.

vergil weapon set
windcutter- a sword fast enought to sever the winds themselves.

combo1-AAAAA: A fast five hit combo.
combo2- AA, then A: Two slashes and a quick stab.
combo3- AAAA, then AA: Four slashes, an upward slash and then a downward slash.
combo4- A then AAAA- a single strike then four strikes.
wind spiral- Down + A: Spins Windcutter around Vergil's waist.
flash uppecut Up + A: Vergil slams the enemy into the air with a strike so quick, not even he can see it.
sky triple- AAA ( in air): Three quick slashes.
wind's fury A, then AA: ( in air)A slash followed by a downward slam, then another downward slam.
winged spiral Down + A in air) Vergil slices twice, then throws Windcutter like a boomerang.
sky uppercut Up + A in air) Vergil throws the enemy higher with an upward cut.
severing wave- A ( hold)- released a wave of wind that slices through enemys.

swordmaster moves

lvl1- anemoi- SSSS- hits the enemy from four differnt directions
helmbreaker- S ( in air)
lvl2- boreas- up+S- dashes forward and crushes the enemy with wind
notus- down+S- repels the enemy with a wave of wind
lvl3 eurus- S(hold)- surrounds vergil in a wall of wind
zephyr -S (repetedly)- creates a storm that slashes through enemys.

now whould be a good time to get started on mission 10 ( the main reason i sent you that message)
 
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