Acedia;277556 said:
Women, smart?! LOL
JK, One love.
I'm really not sexiest.
I love my women.
I thought you were a woman...Your posting style tends to be pretty feminine, and your username is feminine as well, if I'm not mistaken.
You know, I believe it was Freud that indicated that our unconscious beliefs could be discerned from our "jokes" and other slip-ups. Interesting...
Asmodaius;277577 said:
Vampi... You crack me up. XD
You keep disagreeing with everything I say for some reason, and that's alright, don't get me wrong. You got your own opinion and I got mine. ^^ moseslmpg is doing it somewhat too, but oh well, can't agree with them all.
Don't bring me into this. I have avoided posting in this thread because I don't see what good it will do. That said, I will do what I always do.
However, to the point. First of all, I wasn't comparing the DmC teaser trailer with the past DMC trailers. I was comparing the feeling I got from the DmC trailer with the feeling I got from the past DMC -games-. So you misunderstood me there and sorry if I didn't express that properly. The same with what I mean with this being a reboot with new elements as well as some familiar ones from the past games - elements I find familiar, that is. I don't mean to contradict myself, but what I write makes sense in my head, because I know what I mean and then it seems to fail when others try and understand the meaning of it.
This was a problem of opacity, as you admit. I think I have mentioned before, but we aren't phenomenologists, so saying one thing gives the same experience as another is directly implying those two things are comparable. Vampi's point is that there are no non-trivial (e.g. two handguns), non-arbitrary (e.g. the name) elements of the DINO trailer that link it to past DMC trailers or games. So any similar experience you are having is probably self generated due to your own pre-existent belief about the game.
But yeah, I guess I've been bad at pointing fingers at those who seems to dislike the reboot. To all you who doesn't like the reboot, I'm sorry for bonking you on the head because of it. It was unfair of me. We all have different opinions, and I'd love to discuss them with you, wether they are positive or negative, and if it just end with bashing and colliding then I hope we can just agree to disagree. Enforcing one's views on others isn't alright, so we should try not to.
Thank you. I can't speak for the others, but I do appreciate the sentiment and hope that it is sincere. I would like to note that Vampi and I are in a gray area, neither hating or supporting DINO, but merely treating it as another action game.
About how to look at the reboot's Dante - To me, it is still Dante. It's a re-envision of him, yes, but I still see him as Dante. That's -my- opinion. I admit when reading that others write "That's not Dante" I want try and make them understand that it -is- Dante. But that's because to -me- he is. That's forcing my opinion on others and I apologize for that. But when I write "This is Dante" I get the same responce from other, trying to tell me that it isn't Dante, because they don't see it as Dante... And then we end up in this viscious circle where we just end up repeating ourselves.
If his name wasn't Dante, he would be unrecognizable as such. That is the basis for calling him Dino and for rejecting the idea that he simply is Dante. Until he shows that he preserves the spirit of the real Dante, he will remain Dino. To accept him as Dante by default is to blindly accept the dictate of Capcom/NT, which is not prudent or rational. But to be charitable, you might say there are two sides to the Dante debate. One side believes that the locus of identity is in the essence or persona, and the other side, ostensibly your side, seems to believe that the locus of identity lies within the name. Something can be said for each position, but I believe the former is more valid and truer to reality.
Sometimes I can't help but poking a bit at the haters though, and I mean those who really are raging fans! Hence the picture I posted in the other thread and my sig-text. If you get really offended by those small things, then it's because you don't get my sense of humour.
It could also be that your sense of humor is malign, as tends to be the case nowadays. You can't aggravate the haters and then complain when they argue or retaliate, that is dishonest. If you really enjoy fanning the rage, then just go to Capcom Unity. You will find a veritable treasure trove of humor potential there (and a lot harsher hecklers as well.)
I am a bit offended though by being called delusional and having blind devotion to this game. I didn't mean to come of like that. I'm just being positive and hoping that the reboot is going to be great, and I base that positivity of what I have seen so far. But I guess I deserved that one because I said those who doesn't recognize this as DMC and Dante as Dante are in denial. We shouldn't get all personal at one another.
I agree with Vampi's assessment here; if the haters are in denial, then you and most of the supporters certainly can be categorized as delusional, because you are projecting mostly unfounded hopes onto a game we have little info about. If you don't want to be labeled, then you shouldn't label others. Makes sense.
The last couple of lines I wrote in my post was because I more or less expected you or one of the others to completely rip my post apart, because someone always seem to do so, in most cases you or moses. Also I'd like to mention I don't do any form of drugs, I don't smoke or drink either, so I am not on anything.
What can I say? I'm an analyzer by nature. Breaking things down and scrutinizing them is what I do, even when I do agree.
And she knows you don't do drugs. It was an idiomatic expression.
Faustinasa;277592 said:
Again, I feel the same way when people are telling me my theories about DMC are illogical and it being a prequel not a reboot so on and so forth.
If your theory is illogical, then it doesn't matter how you feel about it; it is still not a good theory. It isn't anything personal you know. And as for the reboot/prequel thing, Capcom is sending out mixed messages, so it isn't clear anymore.
BTW, check the theory thread for my pics.
I'm just speechless cuz you pretty much summed up what was running through my mind and placed it in your own post. I'd rather discuss than pointlessly berate each other over and over again.
